10 greatest directors of westerns

On Oct 17, 7:26 pm, readache <cerebureaucr....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> john ford
> howard hawks
> sergio leone
> sam peckinpah
> anthony mann
> budd boetticher
> william wyler (if only for Big Country)
> george stevens (if only for Shane)
> raoul walsh
> walter hill

how come you didn't mention henry king? isn't gunfighter a pretty
good western? i didn't see his other mooies though.

if treasure of sierra madre also counts as a western, then maybe john
houston also counts as a great western director.

also, if we broaden the definition of western to include western-like
genres. then kurosawa also belongs on the list for sure.
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readache wrote:

>On Oct 17, 7:26 pm, readache <cerebureaucr....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>how come you didn't mention henry king?

How come you talk to yourself? Split personality?


Manfred
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On Oct 18, 6:23 am, Harkness <caliba... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Oct 17, 11:58 pm, Harkness <caliba... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On Oct 17, 8:26 pm, readache <cerebureaucr... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > in no particular order
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> > > john ford
> > > howard hawks
> > > sergio leone
> > > sam peckinpah
> > > anthony mann
> > > budd boetticher
> > > william wyler (if only for Big Country)
> > > george stevens (if only for Shane)
> > > raoul walsh
> > > walter hill
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> > You expecting arguments?
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> > I'd probably dump Stevens and Wyler on the grounds that each of them
> > made about one Western.. Maybe throw in Allan Dwan and Delmer Daves.
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> Yikes. How did I forget Clint Eastwood? Unforgiven and Josey Wales
> over Big Country and Shane, that's for damned sure.
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clint eastwood was not, is not a great director of westerns. at best,
he was pretty good.
i think the only films with eastwood that approaches greatness are
Mystic River and Flags of Our Fathers/Letters to Iwo Jima. but even
those are great-ish than truly great. they are professional and wise
than original or truly masterful.

eastwood is certainly one of the great western stars. but a great
western director? come on!

high plains drifter is fun in the outrageous mode but it's no great
work of direction.
outlaw josey wales is, at best, solid.
pale rider isn't good at all.
unforgiven looks good and has a terrific performance by gene hackman.
rest of the movie is unconvicing, heavy, preachy, and overly
politicized. also, a western hero should not philosophize like
eastwood does. he's making sermons. also, the film's irony is
heavier than a dead horse.
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On 18 okt, 02:26, readache <cerebureaucr... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> in no particular order
>
> john ford
> howard hawks
> sergio leone
> sam peckinpah
> anthony mann
> budd boetticher
> william wyler (if only for Big Country)
> george stevens (if only for Shane)
> raoul walsh
> walter hill

I would take some out and include Sergio Corbucci, Enzo G. Castellari,
Sergio Sollima and perhaps even Damiano Damiani. Probably I'm
forgetting a few.

MK
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And I forgot Eastwood.
Pale Rider, Unforgiven, Outlaw Josey Wales and High Planes Drifter.
He's pretty high on my list, actually.

MK
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> i think the only films with eastwood that approaches greatness are
> Mystic River and Flags of Our Fathers

Strange. Those movies were mediocre, I thought. I figured he was
becoming too old to be interesting.
All his westerns are way better, I think.

MK
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> On 18 okt, 02:26, readache <cerebureaucr... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>> in no particular order
>>
>> john ford
>> howard hawks
>> sergio leone
>> sam peckinpah
>> anthony mann
>> budd boetticher
>> william wyler (if only for Big Country)
>> george stevens (if only for Shane)
>> raoul walsh
>> walter hill
>
> I would take some out and include Sergio Corbucci, Enzo G. Castellari,
> Sergio Sollima and perhaps even Damiano Damiani. Probably I'm
> forgetting a few.

Fortunately.
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