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Lisa Morgendunst

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2003 4:09 pm
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Using one movie per nationality, what would your list be?

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Cadet Grey

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 1:10 am
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"Lisa Morgendunst" wrote in message

> Using one movie per nationality, what would your list be?


Well, Ms. Mornstendung, another typically ridiculous question. "One
movie per natinality (sic)" cannot be used as a rule in naming the 10
best films *ever*, since:

1) there are more than 10 "natins" which have produced films; and
2) the best effort of any one "natin" isn't necessarily going to be
superior to the second-best effort of this "natin".

Now if you want to name 10 nations and poll the group as to what
each individual believes the best film to come out of those countries
might be, *that's* at least doable, albeit of dubious merit.

Cheers,
- Grey

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Lisa Morgendunst

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 1:10 am
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"Cadet Grey" wrote in message ...
> "Lisa Morgendunst" wrote in message
>
> > Using one movie per nationality, what would your list be?
>
>
> Well, Ms. Mornstendung, another typically ridiculous question. "One
> movie per natinality (sic)" cannot be used as a rule in naming the 10
> best films *ever*, since:
>
> 1) there are more than 10 "natins" which have produced films; and
> 2) the best effort of any one "natin" isn't necessarily going to be
> superior to the second-best effort of this "natin".
>
> Now if you want to name 10 nations and poll the group as to what
> each individual believes the best film to come out of those countries
> might be, *that's* at least doable, albeit of dubious merit.
>
> Cheers,
> - Grey

Ignoramous, 'natin' is latin for 'nation'.

Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 1:57 am
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My all time no1 movie has to be Cinema Paridiso (theatrical release, not the
directors cut).

Even although it is subtitled, I don't normally watch subtitled movies as I
have an eyesight problem and find reading the subtitles difficult to read, I
still find Cinema Paridso a heart warming film, which still brings me to
tears every time.

ED
"Cadet Grey" wrote in message

> "Lisa Morgendunst" wrote in message
>
> > Using one movie per nationality, what would your list be?
>
>
> Well, Ms. Mornstendung, another typically ridiculous question. "One
> movie per natinality (sic)" cannot be used as a rule in naming the 10
> best films *ever*, since:
>
> 1) there are more than 10 "natins" which have produced films; and
> 2) the best effort of any one "natin" isn't necessarily going to be
> superior to the second-best effort of this "natin".
>
> Now if you want to name 10 nations and poll the group as to what
> each individual believes the best film to come out of those countries
> might be, *that's* at least doable, albeit of dubious merit.
>
> Cheers,
> - Grey
>
>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 2:19 am
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>My all time no1 movie has to be Cinema Paridiso (theatrical release, not the
>directors cut).
>
>Even although it is subtitled, I don't normally watch subtitled movies as I
>have an eyesight problem and find reading the subtitles difficult to read, I
>still find Cinema Paridso a heart warming film, which still brings me to
>tears every time.
>
>ED
Some pointers

1. Put your response in the correct place in the (thread (you react to
a reaction on the Original Post)
2. Write your contribution below the text you're reacting too (not
possible here of course as you react to nothing in the post)
3. You mention one movie, 10 are requested and you did not even
mention the "natinality"
--

--Sam--

"I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me."
Noel Coward
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 4:44 am
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On Sun, 7 Dec 2003, Grand Inquisitor wrote:
|Lisa Morgendunst wrote:
|> Using one movie per nationality, what would your list be?
|
|How do you define nationality? By the director? Is Double Indemnity a
|Hungarian movie? Is 2001 an American movie? Or do you go by the cast,
|which would make How Green Was My Valley a British movie? Or do you go
|by whose money was behind it, which would make A Clockwork Orange and
|American movie.

Uh, what nationality would best describe William Shatner's "Incubus?"

Pan-European? Or is it American, despite the linguistic problems?
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The dog from that film yo

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 8:41 am
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"Lisa Morgendunst" wrote in message



> Ignoramous, 'natin' is latin for 'nation'.


do you often switch languages mid sentence?



--
Gareth
quote of the day
'nostradamus? -sounds like a rock group to me!'
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 9:42 am
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"Cadet Grey" wrote ...
> "Lisa Morgendunst" wrote
> > Using one movie per nationality, what would your list be?
>
> Well, Ms. Mornstendung, another typically ridiculous question. "One
> movie per natinality (sic)" cannot be used as a rule in naming the 10
> best films *ever*, since:
>
> 1) there are more than 10 "natins" which have produced films; and
> 2) the best effort of any one "natin" isn't necessarily going to be
> superior to the second-best effort of this "natin".
>
> Now if you want to name 10 nations and poll the group as to what
> each individual believes the best film to come out of those countries
> might be, *that's* at least doable, albeit of dubious merit.
>
> Cheers,
> - Grey

Jeeze, Gery, no wonder you're still a Kaydet and haven't graduated yet. At
least the Grand Inquisitor lived up to his name and posed some *interesting*
complications to an interesting question.

As I understand Ms. Morgendunst's question [and oh, very clever of you to
garble her name then repeatedly make fun of her for misspelling
'nationality'], she was trying to avoid "10 best" lists with nothing but
Hong Kong action flicks, or ten Japanese films, or just 10 Kurosawa films,
or whatever each respondent's particular crank is. Your "objection" 2)
above is specifically what she's addressing.

So the real question posed is (I think) more like:

Present a list of 10 great ("best") films, no two of the same nationality.

As Grand Inqu suggested, this poses a whole bunch of further questions, such
as what determines the nationality of a film -- the director? and his
origin or his current residence? the funding of the film? the major
filming location? language spoken?

Are "Aguirre" and "Fitzcarraldo" German or whatever Latin American country
they were filmed in?
Is "Stroszek" German or USian?
Is "A Mongolian Tale" Mongolian or Chinese or Hong Kong? (And should Hong
Kong and China still be differentiated?)

etc.

And then there are the usual problems of any "best of" list, with the
addition of the nationality factor -- do I want to honor, say, Paraguayan
film making on the basis of many near-great films, even if no single one
stands out?
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Frank R.A.J. Maloney

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 11:03 am
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"The dog from that film you saw"
wrote in message
>
> "Lisa Morgendunst" wrote in message
>
>
>
> > Ignoramous, 'natin' is latin for 'nation'.
>
>
> do you often switch languages mid sentence?

Not very successfully in any case. "Ignoramus" not "ignoramous" -- Latin for
"we do not know" -- for one.

Secondly, nation comes from the Latin word natio, which does not mean a
nation in our sense of a nation-state but rather in sense of a people with a
common descent, i.e., a tribe or race but with the connotation of being
barbarous or uncivilized.

On the other hand, populus or gens means the nation as the people. Civitas
the nation as the body of citizens. Respublica the nation as the state.

Thus endeth the lesson.

--
Frank in Seattle

___________

Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney

"I leave you now in radiant contentment"
-- "Whistling in the Dark"
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Lisa Morgendunst

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 1:02 pm
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"The dog from that film you saw" wrote in message ...
> "Lisa Morgendunst" wrote in message
>
>
>
> > Ignoramous, 'natin' is latin for 'nation'.
>
>
> do you often switch languages mid sentence?

Only on horseback.
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Cadet Grey

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 3:46 pm
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"Lisa Morgendunst" wrote in message

> "Cadet Grey" wrote in message
...
> > "Lisa Morgendunst" wrote in message
> >
> > > Using one movie per nationality, what would your list be?
> >
> >
> > Well, Ms. Mornstendung, another typically ridiculous question. "One
> > movie per natinality (sic)" cannot be used as a rule in naming the 10
> > best films *ever*, since:
> >
> > 1) there are more than 10 "natins" which have produced films; and
> > 2) the best effort of any one "natin" isn't necessarily going to be
> > superior to the second-best effort of this "natin".
> >
> > Now if you want to name 10 nations and poll the group as to what
> > each individual believes the best film to come out of those countries
> > might be, *that's* at least doable, albeit of dubious merit.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > - Grey
>
> Ignoramous, 'natin' is latin for 'nation'.

Yes, Ms. Mornstendung. But the word *you* used was "natinality".
What does *that* mean in Latin?

> Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?

Indeed.

- Grey
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Lisa Morgendunst

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 3:46 pm
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"Cadet Grey" wrote in message ...
> "Lisa Morgendunst" wrote in message
>
> > "Cadet Grey" wrote in message
> ...
> > > "Lisa Morgendunst" wrote in message
> > >
> > > > Using one movie per nationality, what would your list be?
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, Ms. Mornstendung, another typically ridiculous question. "One
> > > movie per natinality (sic)" cannot be used as a rule in naming the 10
> > > best films *ever*, since:
> > >
> > > 1) there are more than 10 "natins" which have produced films; and
> > > 2) the best effort of any one "natin" isn't necessarily going to be
> > > superior to the second-best effort of this "natin".
> > >
> > > Now if you want to name 10 nations and poll the group as to what
> > > each individual believes the best film to come out of those countries
> > > might be, *that's* at least doable, albeit of dubious merit.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > - Grey
> >
> > Ignoramous, 'natin' is latin for 'nation'.
>
> Yes, Ms. Mornstendung. But the word *you* used was "natinality".
> What does *that* mean in Latin?
>

It means "bug off, you bloody sod"
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 6:14 pm
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"Matthew Montchalin" wrote in message

> On Sun, 7 Dec 2003, Grand Inquisitor wrote:
> |Lisa Morgendunst wrote:
> |> Using one movie per nationality, what would your list be?
> |
> |How do you define nationality? By the director? Is Double Indemnity a
> |Hungarian movie? Is 2001 an American movie? Or do you go by the cast,
> |which would make How Green Was My Valley a British movie? Or do you go
> |by whose money was behind it, which would make A Clockwork Orange and
> |American movie.
>
> Uh, what nationality would best describe William Shatner's "Incubus?"
>
> Pan-European? Or is it American, despite the linguistic problems?

Could be Canadian, seeing as that's where he's from.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 11:16 pm
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"Lisa Morgendunst" wrote in message

> "Cadet Grey" wrote in message
...
> > "Lisa Morgendunst" wrote in message
> >
> > > "Cadet Grey" wrote in message
> > ...
> > > > "Lisa Morgendunst" wrote in message
> > > >
> > > > > Using one movie per nationality, what would your list be?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well, Ms. Mornstendung, another typically ridiculous question. "One
> > > > movie per natinality (sic)" cannot be used as a rule in naming the
10
> > > > best films *ever*, since:
> > > >
> > > > 1) there are more than 10 "natins" which have produced films; and
> > > > 2) the best effort of any one "natin" isn't necessarily going to be
> > > > superior to the second-best effort of this "natin".
> > > >
> > > > Now if you want to name 10 nations and poll the group as to what
> > > > each individual believes the best film to come out of those
countries
> > > > might be, *that's* at least doable, albeit of dubious merit.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > - Grey
> > >
> > > Ignoramous, 'natin' is latin for 'nation'.
> >
> > Yes, Ms. Mornstendung. But the word *you* used was "natinality".
> > What does *that* mean in Latin?
> >
>
> It means "bug off, you bloody sod"


LOL!

- Grey
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 11:16 pm
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"Cadet Grey" wrote in message ...
> "Lisa Morgendunst" wrote in message
>
> > "Cadet Grey" wrote in message
> ...
> > > "Lisa Morgendunst" wrote in message
> > >
> > > > "Cadet Grey" wrote in message
> ...
> > > > > "Lisa Morgendunst" wrote in message
> > > > >
> > > > > > Using one movie per nationality, what would your list be?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, Ms. Mornstendung, another typically ridiculous question. "One
> > > > > movie per natinality (sic)" cannot be used as a rule in naming the
> 10
> > > > > best films *ever*, since:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) there are more than 10 "natins" which have produced films; and
> > > > > 2) the best effort of any one "natin" isn't necessarily going to be
> > > > > superior to the second-best effort of this "natin".
> > > > >
> > > > > Now if you want to name 10 nations and poll the group as to what
> > > > > each individual believes the best film to come out of those
> countries
> > > > > might be, *that's* at least doable, albeit of dubious merit.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > - Grey
> > > >
> > > > Ignoramous, 'natin' is latin for 'nation'.
> > >
> > > Yes, Ms. Mornstendung. But the word *you* used was "natinality".
> > > What does *that* mean in Latin?
> > >
> >
> > It means "bug off, you bloody sod"
>
>
> LOL!
>
> - Grey

And, here's some pig-latin: Oinkus oinkus.

Some jig latin: Yousus thinkus yousus somus badassus dudedues buttus
yousus bitchassus hosus.
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