30 greatest film directors

On Sep 19, 5:50 pm, Madman wrote:
> On Sep 19, 6:24 pm, to see or not to see
> wrote:
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>
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>
>
> > welles
> > kubrick
> > eisenstein
> > hitchcock
> > mizoguchi
> > imamura
> > lang
> > ichikawa
> > kurosawa
> > bergman
> > resnais
> > dreyer
> > fellini
> > antonioni
> > spielberg
> > bresson
> > scorsese
> > tarkovsky
> > murnau
> > ozu
> > kusterica
> > kobayashi
> > godard
> > lean
>
> I would add Altman to that list- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

he made two great mooies. mccabe and mrs miller and nashville. rest
is mostly junk.
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Okay, I'll play...

On Sep 19, 6:24 pm, to see or not to see
wrote:
> welles
> hitchcock
> mizoguchi
> imamura
> lang
> kurosawa
> bergman
> fellini
> antonioni
> spielberg
> scorsese
> tarkovsky
> murnau
> ozu
> godard

Ophuls (pere)
Hawks
Cronenberg
Francesco Rosi
Bunuel
Sirk
Griffith
Chuck Jones
Renoir
Mayazaki
Lynch
Ford
Peckinpah
Leone
Wellman


John Harkness
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"Madman" wrote in message

> On Sep 19, 6:24 pm, to see or not to see
> wrote:
>> welles
>> kubrick
>> eisenstein
>> hitchcock
>> mizoguchi
>> imamura
>> lang
>> ichikawa
>> kurosawa
>> bergman
>> resnais
>> dreyer
>> fellini
>> antonioni
>> spielberg
>> bresson
>> scorsese
>> tarkovsky
>> murnau
>> ozu
>> kusterica
>> kobayashi
>> godard
>> lean
>
> I would add Altman to that list


I'd pull out a couple of the Japanese and add

King Vidor
Victor Fleming
>
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On Sep 19, 6:59 pm, to see or not to see
wrote:
> On Sep 19, 5:50 pm, Madman wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 19, 6:24 pm, to see or not to see
> > wrote:
>
> > > welles
> > > kubrick
> > > eisenstein
> > > hitchcock
> > > mizoguchi
> > > imamura
> > > lang
> > > ichikawa
> > > kurosawa
> > > bergman
> > > resnais
> > > dreyer
> > > fellini
> > > antonioni
> > > spielberg
> > > bresson
> > > scorsese
> > > tarkovsky
> > > murnau
> > > ozu
> > > kusterica
> > > kobayashi
> > > godard
> > > lean
>
> > I would add Altman to that list- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> he made two great mooies. mccabe and mrs miller and nashville. rest
> is mostly junk.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

M*A*S*H - which is 10x funnier than the show ever was
Short Cuts
Gosford Park
The Player
and his last, A Prairie Home Companion


These aren't known as junk in my book.
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On Sep 19, 9:22 pm, Bill Anderson wrote:
> mack wrote:
> > "Bill Anderson" wrote in message
> >
> >> to see or not to see wrote:
> >>> On Sep 19, 5:50 pm, Madman wrote:
> >>>> I would add Altman to that list- Hide quoted text -
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> >>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>> he made two great mooies. mccabe and mrs miller and nashville. rest
> >>> is mostly junk.
>
> >> Popeye is a wonderful movie.
>
> >> --
> >> Bill Anderson
>
> > Come on, Bill, please don't do that! I was just drinking a sip of Coke,
> > and now it's all over the keyboard!
>
> Grrr.
>
> I love this movie, every bit of it, from the incredible sets to the
> charming music to the perfect casting of Shelley Duvall as Olive Oyl to
> even the unusually bearable for once Robin Williams as Popeye. What a
> rich, bountiful treasure this movie is, in its wit and music and
> atmosphere and costumes and casting and cinematography and its love of
> its subject. (Did I not mention its plot? Well, few movies are
> perfect. But this is a comic book story after all!)
>
> Just look at all that's going on up there on the screen, especially if
> you can view the widescreen version. There's more taking place in the
> background nooks and crannies of Altman's "Popeye" than there is up
> front where the main actors are, and all of it is a clever, inventive,
> respectful homage, to a comic strip/cartoon character who has never
> received his much deserved place of honor alongside Mickey, Bugs and
> Daffy. I think Roger Ebert shortchanged Popeye with just 3.5 stars -- I
> think the movie is brilliant without reservations. This film is a
> jewel, and I truly believe that people who snort Coke all over their
> keyboards when they hear it praised have rocks in their heads.
>
> The Rock; it's a hard place.
>
> --
> Bill Anderson
>
> I may not be a physikist, but I knows what matters.- Hide quoted text -
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"There's more taking place in the
background nooks and crannies of Altman's "Popeye" than there is up
front where the main actors are."

That is Altman's trademark. Wide shots to take in all the scene, not
just focus on what is taking place, which is how we would see the
scene as if we were there. And I do admit, I did like Popeye. Williams
also did an underrated job.
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On Sep 19, 6:59 pm, to see or not to see
wrote:
> On Sep 19, 5:50 pm, Madman wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sep 19, 6:24 pm, to see or not to see
> > wrote:
>
> > > welles
> > > kubrick
> > > eisenstein
> > > hitchcock
> > > mizoguchi
> > > imamura
> > > lang
> > > ichikawa
> > > kurosawa
> > > bergman
> > > resnais
> > > dreyer
> > > fellini
> > > antonioni
> > > spielberg
> > > bresson
> > > scorsese
> > > tarkovsky
> > > murnau
> > > ozu
> > > kusterica
> > > kobayashi
> > > godard
> > > lean
.....



> > I would add Altman to that list- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> he made two great mooies. mccabe and mrs miller and nashville. rest
> is mostly junk.


Very true...except that Nashville was real junk, too.
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On Sep 19, 6:24 pm, to see or not to see
wrote:
> welles
> kubrick
> eisenstein
> hitchcock
> mizoguchi
> imamura
> lang
> ichikawa
> kurosawa
> bergman
> resnais
> dreyer
> fellini
> antonioni
> spielberg
> bresson
> scorsese
> tarkovsky
> murnau
> ozu
> kusterica
> kobayashi
> godard
> lean

Ford and Bunuel belong here.
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to see or not to see wrote:
> On Sep 19, 5:50 pm, Madman wrote:

>> I would add Altman to that list- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> he made two great mooies. mccabe and mrs miller and nashville. rest
> is mostly junk.
>

Popeye is a wonderful movie.

--
Bill Anderson

I am the Mighty Favog
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"Bill Anderson" wrote in message

> to see or not to see wrote:
>> On Sep 19, 5:50 pm, Madman wrote:
>
>>> I would add Altman to that list- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> he made two great mooies. mccabe and mrs miller and nashville. rest
>> is mostly junk.
>>
>
> Popeye is a wonderful movie.
>
> --
> Bill Anderson

Come on, Bill, please don't do that! I was just drinking a sip of Coke,
and now it's all over the keyboard!
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mack wrote:
> "Bill Anderson" wrote in message
>
>> to see or not to see wrote:
>>> On Sep 19, 5:50 pm, Madman wrote:
>>>> I would add Altman to that list- Hide quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> he made two great mooies. mccabe and mrs miller and nashville. rest
>>> is mostly junk.
>>>
>> Popeye is a wonderful movie.
>>
>> --
>> Bill Anderson
>
> Come on, Bill, please don't do that! I was just drinking a sip of Coke,
> and now it's all over the keyboard!
>
>

Grrr.

I love this movie, every bit of it, from the incredible sets to the
charming music to the perfect casting of Shelley Duvall as Olive Oyl to
even the unusually bearable for once Robin Williams as Popeye. What a
rich, bountiful treasure this movie is, in its wit and music and
atmosphere and costumes and casting and cinematography and its love of
its subject. (Did I not mention its plot? Well, few movies are
perfect. But this is a comic book story after all!)

Just look at all that's going on up there on the screen, especially if
you can view the widescreen version. There’s more taking place in the
background nooks and crannies of Altman’s "Popeye" than there is up
front where the main actors are, and all of it is a clever, inventive,
respectful homage, to a comic strip/cartoon character who has never
received his much deserved place of honor alongside Mickey, Bugs and
Daffy. I think Roger Ebert shortchanged Popeye with just 3.5 stars -- I
think the movie is brilliant without reservations. This film is a
jewel, and I truly believe that people who snort Coke all over their
keyboards when they hear it praised have rocks in their heads.

The Rock; it's a hard place.

--
Bill Anderson

I may not be a physikist, but I knows what matters.
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"mack" wrote:

>>> mizoguchi
>>> imamura
>>> ichikawa
>>> kurosawa
>>> ozu
>>> kobayashi
>
>I'd pull out a couple of the Japanese and add
>
>King Vidor
>Victor Fleming

Whah? Which of those great names would you pull for Victor Fleming?! I
hope you're not in the Dylan newsgroup because I trimmed you.







____
The blind are leading the blind.

-- Beethoven, on the Archduke's flight from Vienna, 1809
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Harkness wrote:

>Ophuls (pere)
>Hawks
>Cronenberg
>Francesco Rosi
>Bunuel
>Sirk
>Griffith
>Chuck Jones
>Renoir
>Mayazaki
>Lynch
>Ford
>Peckinpah
>Leone
>Wellman

Some surprises there!







____
The blind are leading the blind.

-- Beethoven, on the Archduke's flight from Vienna, 1809
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I don't usually join in on this sort of party-game go-round, but getting to
name 30 instead of the usual 10 proved too tempting (I could easily name
another 30 or more). Caveat: As with, I suspect, most people, for me a list
of the "30 greatest" actually means "the thirty I happen to
like/respect/enjoy the most myself". Which is why Hitchcock and Kubrick, for
example, won't make this list. This sort of thing can be a useful exercise
in that it forces you to dust out the old mental storeroom.

Having said that, most of these will be thumpingly obvious and many have
already have been named by others.

This list is subject to a certain amount of ongoing revision, depending on
who and what I've been watching lately.

On with the show (in no particular order)...

Carne
Cocteau
Bergman
Fellini
Tarkovsky
Kurosawa
Ozu
Mizoguchi
Sokurov
Renoir
Eisenstein
Ray
Chaplin
Keaton (not technically a director, but...)
Griffith
Rohmer
Tex Avery (hey, if Harkness can name Chuck Jones...)
Vigo
Murnau
Bunuel
Rivette
Hou Hsiao-Hsien
Brakhage
Ford
Hawks
Antonioni
Lang
Tati
Bela Tarr
Wajda

And a bunch of others jockeying for position just on the far side of 30.
GMW
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