416 parts ?

On 7/27/08 9:36 PM, in article
0c833685-5435-47af-81aa-5978a3d0a721.RemoveThis@u36g2000pro.googlegroups.com, "PC"
<philinoz.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:

> I bought a couple of 416's which are ex-rentals.Both of them work fine
> but have damaged locking slots ( the circumferential slot at the end
> of the housing which accepts the pin from the xlr to lock it in
> place).So,the xlr's can't lock now as the slot is broken.

If I recall the mike correctly, that locking slot is cut into the tube
housing the microphone. Moreover, the interference tube is not a screw-on
part but is integral to the housing tube. So a replacement would require a
new housing and interference tube. That's not a little thing. It also means
that you would have to remove the capsule from the old tube to fit it into
the new one. Not too difficult for a skilled repair person but not something
I would be eager to do myself.

A few years ago I had need to replace a capsule in a Neumann 81. At that
time Neumann (owned by Sennheiser, by the way) would only sell the capsules
if they were paired with a matching interference tube. (I believe that
policy is no longer in effect.) Anyway, from that experience I can say that
the Neumann interference tube costs about $400. I expect the equivalent
product from Sennheiser would be about as much.

That price is pretty nearly as much as the complete microphone sells for on
the used market. If the mike is otherwise fully functional, I don't think
it's worth the expense. A simple wrap of tape around the connector will
effectively secure it. Not elegant but much less than $400.

Of course, it doesn't hurt to check with the various Sennheiser distributors
to see if you can get a tube cheaply enough. Perhaps they have a used one
from a trashed mike. But, if not, I think you may have to go with tape.

An alternative might be to have a short pigtail cable made. Cloth cables are
very nice right at the shock mount. Then seal the pigtail cable to the mike
with head shrink tubing. (Careful not to overheat the mike with the heat
gun)

David Waelder
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On Jul 29, 4:58 am, David Waelder <davidnews....TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On 7/27/08 9:36 PM, in article
> 0c833685-5435-47af-81aa-5978a3d0a....TakeThisOut@u36g2000pro.googlegroups.com, "PC"
>
> <phili....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I bought a couple of 416's which are ex-rentals.Both of them work fine
> > but have damaged locking slots ( the circumferential slot at the end
> > of the housing which accepts the pin from the xlr to lock it in
> > place).So,the xlr's can't lock now as the slot is broken.
>
> If I recall the mike correctly, that locking slot is cut into the tube
> housing the microphone. Moreover, the interference tube is not a screw-on
> part but is integral to the housing tube. So a replacement would require a
> new housing and interference tube. That's not a little thing. It also means
> that you would have to remove the capsule from the old tube to fit it into
> the new one. Not too difficult for a skilled repair person but not something
> I would be eager to do myself.
>
> A few years ago I had need to replace a capsule in a Neumann 81. At that
> time Neumann (owned by Sennheiser, by the way) would only sell the capsules
> if they were paired with a matching interference tube. (I believe that
> policy is no longer in effect.) Anyway, from that experience I can say that
> the Neumann interference tube costs about $400. I expect the equivalent
> product from Sennheiser would be about as much.
>
> That price is pretty nearly as much as the complete microphone sells for on
> the used market. If the mike is otherwise fully functional, I don't think
> it's worth the expense. A simple wrap of tape around the connector will
> effectively secure it. Not elegant but much less than $400.
>
> Of course, it doesn't hurt to check with the various Sennheiser distributors
> to see if you can get a tube cheaply enough. Perhaps they have a used one
> from a trashed mike. But, if not, I think you may have to go with tape.
>
> An alternative might be to have a short pigtail cable made. Cloth cables are
> very nice right at the shock mount. Then seal the pigtail cable to the mike
> with head shrink tubing. (Careful not to overheat the mike with the heat
> gun)
>
> David Waelder

Thanks very much David,

The pigtail is a good idea.Appreciate your suggestion

Cheers,

PC
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On Jul 28, 6:05 pm, PC <phili....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 29, 4:58 am, David Waelder <davidnews....RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 7/27/08 9:36 PM, in article
> > 0c833685-5435-47af-81aa-5978a3d0a....RemoveThis@u36g2000pro.googlegroups.com, "PC"
>
> > <phili....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I bought a couple of 416's which are ex-rentals.Both of them work fine
> > > but have damaged locking slots ( the circumferential slot at the end
> > > of the housing which accepts the pin from the xlr to lock it in
> > > place).So,the xlr's can't lock now as the slot is broken.
>
> > If I recall the mike correctly, that locking slot is cut into the tube
> > housing the microphone. Moreover, the interference tube is not a screw-on
> > part but is integral to the housing tube. So a replacement would require a
> > new housing and interference tube. That's not a little thing. It also means
> > that you would have to remove the capsule from the old tube to fit it into
> > the new one. Not too difficult for a skilled repair person but not something
> > I would be eager to do myself.
>
> > A few years ago I had need to replace a capsule in a Neumann 81. At that
> > time Neumann (owned by Sennheiser, by the way) would only sell the capsules
> > if they were paired with a matching interference tube. (I believe that
> > policy is no longer in effect.) Anyway, from that experience I can say that
> > the Neumann interference tube costs about $400. I expect the equivalent
> > product from Sennheiser would be about as much.
>
> > That price is pretty nearly as much as the complete microphone sells for on
> > the used market. If the mike is otherwise fully functional, I don't think
> > it's worth the expense. A simple wrap of tape around the connector will
> > effectively secure it. Not elegant but much less than $400.
>
> > Of course, it doesn't hurt to check with the various Sennheiser distributors
> > to see if you can get a tube cheaply enough. Perhaps they have a used one
> > from a trashed mike. But, if not, I think you may have to go with tape.
>
> > An alternative might be to have a short pigtail cable made. Cloth cables are
> > very nice right at the shock mount. Then seal the pigtail cable to the mike
> > with head shrink tubing. (Careful not to overheat the mike with the heat
> > gun)
>
> > David Waelder
>
> Thanks very much David,
>
> The pigtail is a good idea.Appreciate your suggestion
>
> Cheers,
>
> PC- Hide quoted text -
>
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Further refinement on the pigtail, or on the heatshrink idea would be
to make a pigtail with a righ tangle xlr plug in the back of the mic
(lower profile, decent in a shockmount, and heat shrink the xlt to the
back end of the mic..
Or you could fill the wallowed out slot with JB Weld (kidding!)
Last prospect.... and kind of risky.. pull the housing loose yourself,
and get a jeweler to reubuild the slot with brass..
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