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Feuillade

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:02 pm
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I've taped scads of old films off TCM but sometimes it takes me a
while to get around to actually watching them.

Yesterday I watched MGM's "The Big House," from 1930. In parts a very
clunky early talkie, in others a riveting prison drama.

And it occurred to me more than once while watching the film that this
had to have been a huge influence on Chaplin -- in particular on the
prison sequence of "Modern Times."

Anyone else see the film? Agree? Disagree?

Tom Moran

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:40 pm
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On May 9, 2:02 pm, Feuillade <Feuill....RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote:
> I've taped scads of old films off TCM but sometimes it takes me a
> while to get around to actually watching them.
>
> Yesterday I watched MGM's "The Big House," from 1930. In parts a very
> clunky early talkie, in others a riveting prison drama.
>
> And it occurred to me more than once while watching the film that this
> had to have been a huge influence on Chaplin -- in particular on the
> prison sequence of "Modern Times."
>
> Anyone else see the film? Agree? Disagree?
>
> Tom Moran

I seem to dimly recall seeing that years ago on TV. II
can't remember enough about it to recognize any parallels, but it
wouldn't be the first time Chaplin or Keaton did a take off on a
serious film.

Connie K.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 11:39 pm
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On May 10, 9:36 pm, "Matt Barry" <bar....RemoveThis@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
> "Feuillade" <Feuill....RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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> news:1178737352.438062.67900@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > I've taped scads of old films off TCM but sometimes it takes me a
> > while to get around to actually watching them.
>
> > Yesterday I watched MGM's "The Big House," from 1930. In parts a very
> > clunky early talkie, in others a riveting prison drama.
>
> > And it occurred to me more than once while watching the film that this
> > had to have been a huge influence on Chaplin -- in particular on the
> > prison sequence of "Modern Times."
>
> > Anyone else see the film? Agree? Disagree?
>
> > Tom Moran
>
> I can see the influence. Especially in the prison-break scene, with Charlie
> implausibly dodging bullets, and of course the mess-hall sequence.
> Evidently, "The Big House" was a pretty big film in its day, and was
> certainly an influence on Laurel and Hardy's "Pardon Us", who directly
> parodied certain sequences and even shot on some of the same sets.
>
> I'll have to watch the film again soon and see if I notice some more direct
> influences on "Modern Times".
> --
You've pretty much noticed the ones I saw. When they drop the slop in
Wallace Beery's tray in the mess-hall, I expected him to look up to
see where it came from, like Chaplin did in "Modern Times."

And Chester Morris in the break-out scene is very much like Chaplin.

(On a side note, I noticed that there's a French-language version of
the film from 1931 with Charles Boyer in the Chester Morris part. I e-
mailed TCM to request that they show it if they have any materials on
it. Sounds intriguing.)

Tom Moran
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:36 am
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"Feuillade" <Feuillade RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote in message
news:1178737352.438062.67900@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> I've taped scads of old films off TCM but sometimes it takes me a
> while to get around to actually watching them.
>
> Yesterday I watched MGM's "The Big House," from 1930. In parts a very
> clunky early talkie, in others a riveting prison drama.
>
> And it occurred to me more than once while watching the film that this
> had to have been a huge influence on Chaplin -- in particular on the
> prison sequence of "Modern Times."
>
> Anyone else see the film? Agree? Disagree?
>
> Tom Moran
>

I can see the influence. Especially in the prison-break scene, with Charlie
implausibly dodging bullets, and of course the mess-hall sequence.
Evidently, "The Big House" was a pretty big film in its day, and was
certainly an influence on Laurel and Hardy's "Pardon Us", who directly
parodied certain sequences and even shot on some of the same sets.

I'll have to watch the film again soon and see if I notice some more direct
influences on "Modern Times".
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