Cast and crew of Alien 3 say Bishop II is human

"Adam Cameron" <adam_junk.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >> I see your pot is the same colour as Cov's kettle! A matching set!
> > Adam, Bud, even in jest, don;t lump me in with it.
>
> I was more suggesting he was the pot calling the kettle black. ie: he was
> in no place to start suggesting he thought *your* posts were stupid, and
> had been for a long time.


Okay Adam, cheers.


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"Adam Cameron" <adam_junk.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > Has there been an influx of tourism from American LOTR geeks who want
> > to visit white halls of Minas Tirith, go hiking in the Misty Mountains
> > and drink mass quantities of local ale in the The Shire?
>
> Quite possibly. But Auckland (where I am) is just where the airport is;
no
> one in their right mind *stays here* once they touch down. That and I
> don't go to the sort of places tourists might.


Just as an aside....

Did you see the "Billy Connolly World Tour of..." series of your *little*
country !!??


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"Keith Hazelwood" <unknown DeleteThis @unknown.net> wrote in message
> I didn't. I was doped up in the hospital for a busted intestinal wall
> (due to an ulcer).

Ow!


> I voted by absentee ballot (for the loser).

Hmmm.. Literal or Metaphorical ??

;' )


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"Glen A. RITCHIE" <Get_Away_From_Her_You_BITCH DeleteThis @Aliens.com> wrote in message
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> > Truth be told, I shouldn't even be
> > posting to Usenet right now.
>
> So take a break and do something else, Ahmed.


Don;t SAY that !!!!

Last time he said.. "I'll be back soon", he was gone for over two years !!!

(IIRC)


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"Sandman" <mr.DeleteThis@sandman.net> wrote in message
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> In article <ZFfHd.13102$IV5.8735@attbi_s54>,
> "ADWatts" <adwatts.DeleteThis@graphic-designer.com> wrote:
>
> > But I *always* apologize when I'm wrong; or at least try to.


> Haha! You seem to actually think this! That's hilarious!


Okay....

Stepping in to quote this from Ahmed's post...

> Sandman, hope you're reading this
> because I *do* apologize to you.
> Sorry for being such an ass.


Now....
Either you didn't see this, and thus might want to make a small apology to
Ahmed.

Or you *did*, chose to ignore it, and thus are truly a lost cause.


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 >> Stay informed about: Cast and crew of Alien 3 say Bishop II is human 

>>When your country stops arbitrarily invading other countries whenever it
>>feels like and generally meddling in everyone else's affairs, then the rest
>>of the world might stop hanging on your every whim.
>
> I knew my prodding would hit paydirt eventually. ;-)

Yeah, but it's not like it's a minority opinion.


>>So, yeah, we all watched the election quite closely.
>
> I didn't. I was doped up in the hospital for a busted intestinal wall
> (due to an ulcer).

Bleah! Hope yer OK now? I guess so.


>I voted by absentee ballot (for the loser).

You know... I still don't know who you voted for...


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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:03:43 +1300, Adam Cameron
<adam_junk.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> I knew my prodding would hit paydirt eventually. ;-)
>
>Yeah, but it's not like it's a minority opinion.

I know, and I share it.

>> I didn't. I was doped up in the hospital for a busted intestinal wall
>> (due to an ulcer).
>
>Bleah! Hope yer OK now? I guess so.

I have another surgery scheduled for later this morning so I'll
probably be in the hospital for another week starting today...

>>I voted by absentee ballot (for the loser).
>
>You know... I still don't know who you voted for...

True enough. Let's just say I voted for the madness to end.

Keith
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"ADWatts" <adwatts RemoveThis @graphic-designer.com> wrote in message
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> If Fincher *needed* Bishop II to be human, they should've come
> up with something better. The blood is iffy, and that whack on the
> head gives more of an impression that he's an android because he
> didn't go down. Sure, some people have really thick skulls, but
> that scene is a bit ridiculous.


Well.. I don't think they should have come up with ANYTHING.

Up until the WHACK across the head and the next to lack of response, I was
quite prepared to accept that he *was* human.

But, fortunately or unfortunately, I just think the proof on-screen falls
more to droid than Not.
There just seems to me to be more of it.

*Human* - He says he is. He has red blood.

*Droid* - Not **enough** *blood*. Too much damage to head for so little
bloodloss, similarly lack of reaction. He is accused of being a droid by
whatsisface that wallops him and is NOT negated. (Yes, he is on the spec ed
dvd... but I don't view that as canon. Like I said, I've had it thrown
against me that the cocoon scene wasn't canon cos it wasn;t on the big
screen and I have accepted that.... It is NOW though !! ;' ) )

This, not even going into the whole *methodology* (cos it's only conjecture)
of; *The friendly face* fallacy, why would they send a man who is *worth* so
much to a place like that with so little security... (You think there was
enough? He could've been killed by that spanner, no?)

;' )

It really does come down to that make up effect.

See, effects like that are rarely, (if EVER) created *in camera*.
It takes hours of make up to get such an effect and set up etc for the lead
up to the *hit*, the *hit* itself and the aftermath.
To blame it on a *dodgy* prosthetic can only really damn both the effects
team AND the director for allowing it on screen in the first place. (IE,
Insofar as, if it were meant to show he was human, and with the rest of the
relevant occurances that happened leading up to it, and after it.)

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 >> Stay informed about: Cast and crew of Alien 3 say Bishop II is human 

"Keith Hazelwood" <unknown DeleteThis @unknown.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:07:05 GMT, "ADWatts"
> <adwatts DeleteThis @graphic-designer.com> wrote:


> >But all "buts" aside, let's say you are right. Brett and Dallas are
> >being cocooned to make "soup". Isn't it going a bit slow? Looks
> >like the alien is going to be waiting quite awhile for his meal,
> >doesn't it? If it doesn't have much time left, I'd say it better turn
> >up the burner on Brett if it wants a last meal.

> Why wouldn't it have much time left? Its siblings that infested the
> colony didn't die in a day. Why would this one?

It's siblings from the colony where ther *after* it, and as we know, the
whole mythology was thrown out of the window so Jimmy could get his ants.

The Alien in the *original* film, (and this *is* seen on screen), it can be
conjectured, is going into SOME form of dormant stage. As is seen by the
MUCH thickened mucus, it's curling into a small space and virtually shutting
down.

It has been suggested by *those who made the film* (your friends debatewise!
;' ) ) that this alien was becoming dormant, or maybe even about to
transform into a different type of creature.


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"ADWatts" <adwatts.RemoveThis@graphic-designer.com> wrote in message
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> Sandman stated:
>
> > I find it odd that you would post anything about insults. As it is, you
> and
> > Adam are the ones who are quick on the insult-trigger in this group. Now
> > AdWatts seems to want to join that group.
> >
> > Just found it ironic to have you comment on it.
>
> You need to take a little trip back in time, my firend.
>
> Back to December of 2001 . . .
>
> A little thread title Director's Cuts / Special Editions . . .
>
> Let's take a quick look at the *first* insult that was slung
> in that thread. It was by *you* towards Covenant:
>
> "But, arrogance works too.
>
> (Ooops, now I took advantage of you instead, sorry man, you were just such
> an easy target.) :)"
>
> You went on to call him a newbie, I believe.
>
> I shudder to think about what all has transpired between you
> and others here from that point until I "returned" several months
> ago, but your tactics haven't changed. I'll give you that: you are
> at least consistant.
>
> I hate to go all "schoolyard" on you, but *you* started it. And
> I have a *very* long memory!


Bud.... He KNOWS all this.

He's yer classic troll.
Troll and then accuss others of the EXACT things you were just doing.
Make pointless and meaningless single line statements at the end of posts
that make sense only in their own context.
(IE... The reply to your *apology*)

Next he'll be saying *I'm* a troll.... He's done it before... It's dull.


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 >> Stay informed about: Cast and crew of Alien 3 say Bishop II is human 

"Sandman" <mr RemoveThis @sandman.net> wrote in message
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> In article <_ihHd.13795$EG1.7461@attbi_s53>, "ADWatts"
> <adwatts RemoveThis @graphic-designer.com> wrote:
>
> >> I find it odd that you would post anything about insults. As it is,
> >> you and Adam are the ones who are quick on the insult-trigger in this
> >> group. Now AdWatts seems to want to join that group.
> >>
> >> Just found it ironic to have you comment on it.
> >
> > You need to take a little trip back in time, my firend.
> >
> > Back to December of 2001 . . .
> >
> > A little thread title Director's Cuts / Special Editions . . .
> >
> > Let's take a quick look at the *first* insult that was slung in that
> > thread. It was by *you* towards Covenant:
> > "But, arrogance works too.
> >
> > Ooops, now I took advantage of you instead, sorry man, you were just
> > such an easy target.) :)"
> >
> > You went on to call him a newbie, I believe.
> >
> > I shudder to think about what all has transpired between you and
> > others here from that point until I "returned" several months ago, but
> > your tactics haven't changed. I'll give you that: you are at least
> > consistant.
> >
> > I hate to go all "schoolyard" on you, but *you* started it. And I have
> > a *very* long memory!
>
> Zzzzz. Wake me when you have something to say.





See.





(tsk tsk tsk..... using two zzz posts in one session... slipping.)


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 >> Stay informed about: Cast and crew of Alien 3 say Bishop II is human 

Jesus, this thread.

"I have heard about enough of this, and I am asking you to pull the plug."
 >> Stay informed about: Cast and crew of Alien 3 say Bishop II is human 

In article <csmaar$4o9$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Covenant"
<covenant RemoveThis @joelamb.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>>> But I *always* apologize when I'm wrong; or at least try to.
>>
>> Haha! You seem to actually think this! That's hilarious!
>
> Okay....
>
> Stepping in to quote this from Ahmed's post...
>>
>> Sandman, hope you're reading this because I *do* apologize to you.
>> Sorry for being such an ass.
>
> Now.... Either you didn't see this, and thus might want to make a
> small apology to Ahmed.

I didn't see that.

> Or you *did*, chose to ignore it, and thus are truly a lost cause.

No, I am not like you at all.

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