Cast and crew of Alien 3 say Bishop II is human

"Keith Hazelwood" <unknown DeleteThis @unknown.net> wrote in message
> But he was still credited as the director. Saying he relinquishes his
> status is just an arbitrary rule you're making up, like Cov's "rules
> of canon."


Isn;t it *amazing* how hung up on a throwaway phrase you get !!!

*rules of canon*... Well....

Put it this way.. conversely, are you saying there are NO rules regarding
canoninity?

> You'll notice Alien 3 wasn't an Alan Smithee film, yes?


Cos the studio refused to allow him to *blacken* the name of the franchise
by making it such.


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Covenant
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"ADWatts" <adwatts.DeleteThis@graphic-designer.com> wrote in message
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> You are absolutely right. And I apologize. I'm a bit testy this morning,
> but it's no reason for bad behavior when you take the time to write
> decent replies. I *am* sorry.


Note to self...
Try and read ahead before posting....

;' )))

Covenant
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"wmmvrrvrrmm mmrrvrrvmmw" <wmmvrrvrrmm DeleteThis @aol.commmmmmmmm> wrote in message
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>
> << On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 03:19:21 GMT, "ADWatts"
> <adwatts DeleteThis @graphic-designer.com> wrote:
>
> > Dallas and Brett are mutating into Eggs.
>
>
> mutating is the wrong word, if you want to be specific, they were just
being
> eaten away by an organism that would grow the egg structure around them

I prefer the term...

metamporphising.

;' )


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Covenant
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In article <nM8Hd.12341$OF5.5848@attbi_s52>,
"ADWatts" <adwatts.DeleteThis@graphic-designer.com> wrote:

> > Shall we transfer "final say" to the producers instead? That would be
> > David Giler and Walter Hill, who *wrote the script*.
>
> You're really beginning to show your ignorance now.

Another example of your unprovoked hostility against other posters apparently
due to them replying with logical arguments that questions your biased
positions.

Nothing new here.

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Sandman[.net]
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In article <kRaHd.12327$IV5.5184@attbi_s54>,
"ADWatts" <adwatts.DeleteThis@graphic-designer.com> wrote:

> > But he wasn't lying at that point. He was confessing his intentions
> > and pleading with her to let him have the queen. Why would he
> > continue to lie about being an android?
>
> Because The Company "knows" she hates androids?

That's the dumbest thing you ever said - That is in opposition of YOUR
argument. If the company knew she hated androids (which they didn't) - why
would they send an android to talk to her? And why would they send the same
model she has been in contact with before, that according to their record she
doesn't even like?? That's absurd!

> Do you think *they* would believe she would give the queen to an
> android after what she experienced with Ash?

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"Adam Cameron" <adam_junk RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >> - there are no "rules of canon". That's got to be one of the mosre
> >> stupid rationalisations I've heard coming out of Covenant's keyboard.
> >
> > You only just now started reading his posts? :-D
>
> I see your pot is the same colour as Cov's kettle! A matching set!


Adam, Bud, even in jest, don;t lump me in with it.


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Covenant
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"Keith Hazelwood" <unknown DeleteThis @unknown.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:02:18 +1300, Adam Cameron
> <adam_junk DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> That's because you're an easy-going Kiwi. I'm an American. We like
> >> to enforce our will on the rest of the world. ;-)
> >
> >Don't get me started...
>
> Too bad Waldo isn't around. ;-)
>
> >> You're so paranoid. We'll make a seppo out of you yet.
> >
> >Just gimme the green card and I'm all yours.
>
> You mean you'd actually leave Middle Earth?


Only for the good of his Elf.


Covenant
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 >> Stay informed about: Cast and crew of Alien 3 say Bishop II is human 

In article <csjlog$ngp$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>,
"Covenant" <covenant DeleteThis @joelamb.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> > >> Not needed. The director has told us. End of story.
> > >
> > >Not. Fincher didn't even write the script. Nor did he even want his name
> > >on the film. Furthermore, he refused to participate in the Quadrilogy. So
> > >how does he have final say? He doesn't.
> >
> > So what? He was the director. Does this mean the director doesn't
> > have the final say any more?
>
> The director, more and more these days, DOESN'T have the final say.

Tell that to Spielberg... Or heck - even Peter Jacksson!

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Sandman[.net]
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In article <csjluj$jep$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>,
"Covenant" <covenant RemoveThis @joelamb.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> "Keith Hazelwood" <unknown RemoveThis @unknown.net> wrote in message
> > But he was still credited as the director. Saying he relinquishes his
> > status is just an arbitrary rule you're making up, like Cov's "rules
> > of canon."
>
>
> Isn;t it *amazing* how hung up on a throwaway phrase you get !!!
>
> *rules of canon*... Well....
>
> Put it this way.. conversely, are you saying there are NO rules regarding
> canoninity?

Of course. With regards to Alien - there ARE no rules regarding canonity. Other
film franchises actually have rules f canonity, but I never saw anything from
Fox with regards to Alien.

What you CAN use is the phrase "It is widely regarded as canon that..." to
point to people in general thinking that source X is regarded as canon.

But to claim knowledge about some magical rules are just absurd.

> > You'll notice Alien 3 wasn't an Alan Smithee film, yes?
>
> Cos the studio refused to allow him to *blacken* the name of the franchise
> by making it such.

Haha!

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Sandman[.net]
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In article <csjlri$njb$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>,
"Covenant" <covenant.TakeThisOut@joelamb.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> "ADWatts" <adwatts.TakeThisOut@graphic-designer.com> wrote in message
> news:nM8Hd.12341$OF5.5848@attbi_s52...
>
>
> > You're really beginning to show your ignorance now. ....
>
> Ahmed....
>
> Just a .... point....
>
> If anyone had replied to me startiong with the sentence you did above, I'd
> assume they were trying to insult me.
>
> 'tain;t like you to pre-emptively jump into that mode ...

I find it odd that you would post anything about insults. As it is, you and
Adam are the ones who are quick on the insult-trigger in this group. Now
AdWatts seems to want to join that group.

Just found it ironic to have you comment on it.

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Sandman[.net]
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I said:

> > You're really beginning to show your ignorance now. ....

Covenant replied:

> Ahmed....
>
> Just a .... point....
>
> If anyone had replied to me startiong with the sentence you did above, I'd
> assume they were trying to insult me.
>
> 'tain;t like you to pre-emptively jump into that mode ...

Thanks, man. You are right. (And I *did* read ahead and see your
other post, but you are right to "put me in my place" when I make
a mistake!)

Not that I'm making any excuses, but I was getting pretty weary this
morning answering both Keith and Sandy. My loathing for our
resident psycho (Sandy) begin slipping into my replies to Keith.
Quite embarassing actually.

But I *always* apologize when I'm wrong; or at least try to.

Truth be told, I shouldn't even be posting to Usenet right now.
Just in a nasty frame of mind at the moment. But, again, that's
not an excuse. My behavior with Keith was inexcusable.

Thanks, again. Don't ever hesitate to set me straight! Or
Glen or Tracy or Adam or whomever . . .

Sorry, all.

Have a great day!

ADWatts

"I remember it well
The first time that I saw
Your head around the door
'Cause mine stopped working"

from "I Remember" by Damien Rice
 >> Stay informed about: Cast and crew of Alien 3 say Bishop II is human 

Sandman stated:

> I find it odd that you would post anything about insults. As it is, you
and
> Adam are the ones who are quick on the insult-trigger in this group. Now
> AdWatts seems to want to join that group.
>
> Just found it ironic to have you comment on it.

You need to take a little trip back in time, my firend.

Back to December of 2001 . . .

A little thread title Director's Cuts / Special Editions . . .

Let's take a quick look at the *first* insult that was slung
in that thread. It was by *you* towards Covenant:

"But, arrogance works too.

(Ooops, now I took advantage of you instead, sorry man, you were just such
an easy target.) :)"

You went on to call him a newbie, I believe.

I shudder to think about what all has transpired between you
and others here from that point until I "returned" several months
ago, but your tactics haven't changed. I'll give you that: you are
at least consistant.

I hate to go all "schoolyard" on you, but *you* started it. And
I have a *very* long memory!

ADWatts

"I remember it well
The first time that I saw
Your head around the door
'Cause mine stopped working"

from "I Remember" by Damien Rice
 >> Stay informed about: Cast and crew of Alien 3 say Bishop II is human 

>> Turning Brett into "soup" could simply represent how it eats
>> everything, organic or not, which actually fits well with the theory
>> that it consumes food through a method of expectoration and ingestion
>> (like The Fly).
>
> Like I said, it's just not going to stand up. A fly feeds through a
> tube because it has no teeth. It just doesn't make sense for the alien
> to have all that "flatware" at its disposal *and* use a feeding tube
> to slurp up it's meals.

Sure it does, if you read what Keith said.

If all our food was the consistency of soup... we'd not need teeth, so we
probably would no longer have them. But we have food too hard to just
drink, so we have teeth to grind it up. And we don't have two separate
eating apparatuses for eating soft and hard food.

So, if the alien - as Keith suggested - could also use, say plastic and
metal as food, then it's got to get it into a form to make use of it. And
teeth ain't gonna help. However it has this acid to dissolve it, whereupon
it can eat. So - in this analogy - it has a process of liquefying what it
eats, before eating it. That's how it eats.

So that makes the tongue thing both a feeding tube and an attack mechanism.
Fair enough. It doesn't really explain the rest of the teeth, though.

Maybe at some point in the recent developmental past of the alien, it
discovered it could liquefy anything and consume it, and that's how it does
it now. And the other teeth are mostly vesitgial. Certainly this has
happened to a certain extent with our own teeth. Whilst they're still
requireed apparatus, they're far less an attacking weapon, or a meat
rending tool as they used to be.

Or, you know, it could be turning Brett into an egg (which is what I
actually think is happening).

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