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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:58 am
Post subject: Cat5 experiment
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I used a Cat5 to run two chanels of sound and two lines of video between
video village and the sound cart on my last picture. Boy did it work
great!! It made me rethink the whole idea and knocked my video transmitter
on the head in terms of ease vrs. quality. The only weakness was in the
durability of the cable (even at the extremely cheap cost of replacement).
The ends were severed pretty easily, although two 100' runs got me through
the whole project; lost the second end an hour before the movie wrapped<g>.
And replacement ends are "a-dime-a-dozen." I just ordered some "tactical"
grade cable from Gepco along with the Neutrik system of Cat5 connectors;
I'll report back but that should go a long way to prevent the re-ocurance of
that problem.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:32 pm
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:24 pm
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Just some simple A2V2 baluns that I found. Don't have them here, but they
are pretty simple.
D.
<terrynews.RemoveThis@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Doug,
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> What hardware did you use? (besides the cable)
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> David Terry
> >> Stay informed about: Cat5 experiment |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:00 pm
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Douglas Tourtelot wrote:
> Just some simple A2V2 baluns that I found. Don't have them here, but they
> are pretty simple.
>
> D.
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> <terrynews DeleteThis @mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:1158697954.439981.153780@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> > Doug,
> >
> > What hardware did you use? (besides the cable)
> >
> > David Terry
> >
How are you going to connect to the balun using the Neutriks? Mine only
has the RJ45s. I have considered gutting the balun but haven't looked
inside to see how easy that would be.
Peter >> Stay informed about: Cat5 experiment |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:21 pm
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:53 pm
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At the villge end, I am planning on building the balun into a Budd box with
the appropriate connectors mounted. Should be pretty easy, although I
haven't opened mine up yet. At the cart, the Neutrik pass-through will jump
to the balun already mounted on a short Cat5 jumper.
D.
"Peter" <pkurland.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Douglas Tourtelot wrote:
>> Just some simple A2V2 baluns that I found. Don't have them here, but
>> they
>> are pretty simple.
>>
>> D.
>>
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>> <terrynews.RemoveThis@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:1158697954.439981.153780@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>> > Doug,
>> >
>> > What hardware did you use? (besides the cable)
>> >
>> > David Terry
>> >
> How are you going to connect to the balun using the Neutriks? Mine only
> has the RJ45s. I have considered gutting the balun but haven't looked
> inside to see how easy that would be.
> Peter
> >> Stay informed about: Cat5 experiment |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:54 pm
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Let's see if I can find the supplier.
D.
<sb DeleteThis @simonbishop.com> wrote in message
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>I too would be most interested in the baluns hardware used. Might you
> find us a clue at some point please Doug?
>
> Kindest regards,
>
> Simon B
> >> Stay informed about: Cat5 experiment |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:56 pm
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These are not the exact ones I have, but they have a good reputation. Small
too.
http://www.muxlab.com/products/ve_avd_2w_av_balun.html
D.
"Douglas Tourtelot" <tourtelot.DeleteThis@nospanspeakeasy.net> wrote in message
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> Let's see if I can find the supplier.
>
> D.
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> <sb.DeleteThis@simonbishop.com> wrote in message
> news:1158704510.153250.175120@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>>I too would be most interested in the baluns hardware used. Might you
>> find us a clue at some point please Doug?
>>
>> Kindest regards,
>>
>> Simon B
>>
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> >> Stay informed about: Cat5 experiment |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:08 pm
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Douglas Tourtelot wrote:
> These are not the exact ones I have, but they have a good reputation. Small
> too.
>
> http://www.muxlab.com/products/ve_avd_2w_av_balun.html
>
> D.
>
>
> "Douglas Tourtelot" <tourtelot.DeleteThis@nospanspeakeasy.net> wrote in message
> news:MoGdnZW4afqJ6I3YnZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
> > Let's see if I can find the supplier.
> >
> > D.
> >
> >
> > <sb.DeleteThis@simonbishop.com> wrote in message
> > news:1158704510.153250.175120@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> >>I too would be most interested in the baluns hardware used. Might you
> >> find us a clue at some point please Doug?
> >>
> >> Kindest regards,
> >>
> >> Simon B
> >>
> >
> >
I'm using ETS PV905 baluns which allow 2
independent video lines (BNC) and 2 RCAs at each end. I think Phillip
Palmer said he used the Intellix ones.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:53 pm
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sb.TakeThisOut@simonbishop.com wrote:
> I too would be most interested in the baluns hardware used. > Kindest regards,
>
> Simon B
I've been using the same system for this season of Jericho, about 10
weeks now and. I've got a couple of 100' lengths and a couple of 50'
lengths, probably some 25' as well. I just couple them together when I
get too far away....works great!
The baluns that I use are:
http://sewelldirect.com/Intelix-AV-Balun-4-RCA-to-RJ45.asp
I bought a box of stranded CAT 5 cable, a crimper and a stripper.
That's all you need. Make sure you get stranded, as the solid core
doesn't wrap very well.
PWP
www.palmeraudio.net >> Stay informed about: Cat5 experiment |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:59 pm
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> I've been using the same system for this season of Jericho, about 10
> weeks now and. I've got a couple of 100' lengths and a couple of 50'
> lengths, probably some 25' as well.
I somehow hit "post" before I finished one sentence....must be the
cookies at craft service.
I've been using it for about 10 weeks and have only had one RJ45
connector get crunched. A quick fix and it was back in business.
PWP
www.palmeraudio.net >> Stay informed about: Cat5 experiment |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:48 pm
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These are the ones I use as well.
D.
"Phillip W. Palmer, C.A.S." <phil.DeleteThis@palmeraudio.net> wrote in message
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> sb.DeleteThis@simonbishop.com wrote:
>> I too would be most interested in the baluns hardware used. > Kindest
>> regards,
>>
>> Simon B
>
> I've been using the same system for this season of Jericho, about 10
> weeks now and. I've got a couple of 100' lengths and a couple of 50'
> lengths, probably some 25' as well. I just couple them together when I
> get too far away....works great!
>
> The baluns that I use are:
>
> http://sewelldirect.com/Intelix-AV-Balun-4-RCA-to-RJ45.asp
>
> I bought a box of stranded CAT 5 cable, a crimper and a stripper.
> That's all you need. Make sure you get stranded, as the solid core
> doesn't wrap very well.
>
> PWP
> www.palmeraudio.net
> >> Stay informed about: Cat5 experiment |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:42 pm
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Douglas Tourtelot wrote:
> I used a Cat5 to run two chanels of sound and two lines of video between
> video village and the sound cart on my last picture. Boy did it work
> great!! It made me rethink the whole idea and knocked my video transmitter
> on the head in terms of ease vrs. quality. The only weakness was in the
> durability of the cable (even at the extremely cheap cost of replacement).
> The ends were severed pretty easily, although two 100' runs got me through
> the whole project; lost the second end an hour before the movie wrapped<g>.
> And replacement ends are "a-dime-a-dozen." I just ordered some "tactical"
> grade cable from Gepco along with the Neutrik system of Cat5 connectors;
> I'll report back but that should go a long way to prevent the re-ocurance of
> that problem.
>
> D.
>
>
Yup, and you can run analog and AES audio down it all day. Turns out the
characteristic impedance is about 100 ohms.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:03 pm
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These baluns all seem to have RCA outs on them. Do you feed +4 or -10
audio into them?
G. John Garrett, C.A.S wrote:
> Douglas Tourtelot wrote:
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> > I used a Cat5 to run two chanels of sound and two lines of video between
> > video village and the sound cart on my last picture. Boy did it work
> > great!! It made me rethink the whole idea and knocked my video transmitter
> > on the head in terms of ease vrs. quality. The only weakness was in the
> > durability of the cable (even at the extremely cheap cost of replacement).
> > The ends were severed pretty easily, although two 100' runs got me through
> > the whole project; lost the second end an hour before the movie wrapped<g>.
> > And replacement ends are "a-dime-a-dozen." I just ordered some "tactical"
> > grade cable from Gepco along with the Neutrik system of Cat5 connectors;
> > I'll report back but that should go a long way to prevent the re-ocurance of
> > that problem.
> >
> > D.
> >
> >
>
> Yup, and you can run analog and AES audio down it all day. Turns out the
> characteristic impedance is about 100 ohms.
>
> John >> Stay informed about: Cat5 experiment |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:28 pm
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-10. They are pretty hard to clip; I had them up on the scope and +18 was
still good.
D.
"asylum sound" <asylumsound.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> These baluns all seem to have RCA outs on them. Do you feed +4 or -10
> audio into them?
>
>
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> G. John Garrett, C.A.S wrote:
>> Douglas Tourtelot wrote:
>>
>> > I used a Cat5 to run two chanels of sound and two lines of video
>> > between
>> > video village and the sound cart on my last picture. Boy did it work
>> > great!! It made me rethink the whole idea and knocked my video
>> > transmitter
>> > on the head in terms of ease vrs. quality. The only weakness was in
>> > the
>> > durability of the cable (even at the extremely cheap cost of
>> > replacement).
>> > The ends were severed pretty easily, although two 100' runs got me
>> > through
>> > the whole project; lost the second end an hour before the movie
>> > wrapped<g>.
>> > And replacement ends are "a-dime-a-dozen." I just ordered some
>> > "tactical"
>> > grade cable from Gepco along with the Neutrik system of Cat5
>> > connectors;
>> > I'll report back but that should go a long way to prevent the
>> > re-ocurance of
>> > that problem.
>> >
>> > D.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Yup, and you can run analog and AES audio down it all day. Turns out the
>> characteristic impedance is about 100 ohms.
>>
>> John
> >> Stay informed about: Cat5 experiment |
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