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Since: Apr 11, 2005 Posts: 8
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 11:41 am
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It's happens before "The Da Vinci Code" . I'd opt for a different
director/screenwriter and Robert Langdon even if you consider The Da
Vinci Code movie good.
The Robert Landon character is a symbologist. For some people it seems
symbolism="BS". Unless your imagination is open to the possiblity that
someone put some thought into placing hidden meaning into something
then of course you'd hate "The Da Vinci Code". I remember as a kid the
reaction by some people to the "Paul is dead" clues in Beatle songs and
album covers. I didn't think Paul was dead, but I was intrigued by the
idea the clues may have been real. David Lynch is big on symbolism, I
thought "Twin Peaks" (both seasons) was great. You either "get it" or
you think it's nonsense.
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Since: Mar 02, 2005 Posts: 93
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 1:34 pm
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| Derek Janssen wrote:
> And since most don't, I'd say Brown currently has a number of forks
> stuck in him as of the movie's second week of business.
Just how much business does a film have to do before you stump up and
say that it's a hit?
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Since: Jan 22, 2006 Posts: 819
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 3:29 pm
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svjim.DeleteThis@aol.com wrote:
> It's happens before "The Da Vinci Code" . I'd opt for a different
> director/screenwriter and Robert Langdon even if you consider The Da
> Vinci Code movie good.
And since most don't, I'd say Brown currently has a number of forks
stuck in him as of the movie's second week of business.
Derek Janssen (and whatever happened to John Grisham, too?)
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Since: May 03, 2006 Posts: 21
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 4:04 pm
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Since: Jan 22, 2006 Posts: 819
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 5:00 pm
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Scooby wrote:
> Derek Janssen wrote:
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>>And since most don't, I'd say Brown currently has a number of forks
>>stuck in him as of the movie's second week of business.
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> Just how much business does a film have to do before you stump up and
> say that it's a hit?
Oh, not the money, just a new and dramatically increased percentage of
people now realizing the whole thing......looks a bit silly. 0_o?
Derek Janssen (every decade had its own "What were we THINKING??" once
the trend hit the mainstream, and the 00's are no exception)
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Since: Nov 29, 2005 Posts: 69
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 7:00 pm
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svjim.RemoveThis@aol.com wrote:
> It's happens before "The Da Vinci Code" . I'd opt for a
> different director/screenwriter and Robert Langdon even if you
> consider The Da Vinci Code movie good.
I think Angel & Demon is much more practical (less on theories
about wild bloodlines) than DVC.
If I would have to make a movie about Catholic Church, I would
have taken Angels & Demons instead of Da Vinci. At least, we
will have a much more thrilling and better organised climax
scene.
btw, could you elaborate what script changes you have in mind
about A&D.
some from me:
One problem in shooting could be that the thief of antimatter
removes one eye of the scientist. That would require some damn
new sort of makeup to show the actor's corpse without an eye.
And, the hero (I am bad at remembering names) jumping out of
helicopter at the climax with just some sheet. Well. Tom Hanks
is not going to agree to do that.
Showing so many aged cardinals getting brutally killed will have
a bad psychological effect on public.
And, Vetican City is surely not going to allow the shooting in
there. You need a pretty big studio to recreate entire Vetican.
> The Robert Landon character is a symbologist. For some people
> it seems symbolism="BS". Unless your imagination is open to
> the possiblity that someone put some thought into placing
> hidden meaning into something then of course you'd hate "The
> Da Vinci Code". I remember as a kid the reaction by some
> people to the "Paul is dead" clues in Beatle songs and album
> covers. I didn't think Paul was dead, but I was intrigued by
> the idea the clues may have been real. David Lynch is big on
> symbolism, I thought "Twin Peaks" (both seasons) was great.
> You either "get it" or you think it's nonsense.
>
>
> Jim
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Since: Jan 18, 2005 Posts: 119
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 7:03 pm
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In article <1148323308.577705.306040.TakeThisOut@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
svjim.TakeThisOut@aol.com wrote:
> It's happens before "The Da Vinci Code" . I'd opt for a different
> director/screenwriter and Robert Langdon even if you consider The Da
> Vinci Code movie good.
The news ran a story today bout how Sony Pictures is already gearing up
for "Angels & Demons". Although since 90% of the story takes place in
the Vatican and various Catholic churches around Rome, and given how the
Catholic Church feels about Dan Brown, I don't see them granting
permission for much filming to be done at the actual locations. Which
means a lot of very expensive set building for the production crew and
even the best sets can't really set the same atmosphere as the real
thing.
(And they better cast Monica Bellucci as Vittoria Vetra. No other
actress will do.) >> Stay informed about: Any Chance for "Angel & Demons" ? |
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Since: Jun 08, 2006 Posts: 49
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 9:31 pm
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Alric Knebel wrote:
> Now
> everything is going over to CDs, so these audio clues are going to be
> pretty much lost in the future.
Why do you say that? In the digital age, speeding up, slowing down,
reversing, filtering frequencies, is all extremely easy.
I had a turntable that survived a lightning strike, but every once in a
while, would play backwards. Had a lot of fun with that! >> Stay informed about: Any Chance for "Angel & Demons" ? |
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Since: Jun 08, 2006 Posts: 49
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 10:15 pm
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Alric Knebel wrote:
> Here's what I'm going to do. I have only three Beatle albums on CD, and
> the White Album isn't one of them. I'll download "Revolution #9" and
> play it backwards in Goldwave and see what it does. I bet it doesn't work.
Never mind the Beatles. What about "Matching Tie and Handkerchief?" >> Stay informed about: Any Chance for "Angel & Demons" ? |
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Since: Jan 18, 2005 Posts: 119
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 7:26 am
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In article <127515kkot4h3b RemoveThis @corp.supernews.com>,
Alric Knebel <alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:
> BTR1701 wrote:
>
> > In article <1148323308.577705.306040 RemoveThis @y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> > svjim RemoveThis @aol.com wrote:
> >
> >
> >>It's happens before "The Da Vinci Code" . I'd opt for a different
> >>director/screenwriter and Robert Langdon even if you consider The Da
> >>Vinci Code movie good.
> >
> >
> > The news ran a story today bout how Sony Pictures is already gearing up
> > for "Angels & Demons". Although since 90% of the story takes place in
> > the Vatican and various Catholic churches around Rome, and given how the
> > Catholic Church feels about Dan Brown, I don't see them granting
> > permission for much filming to be done at the actual locations. Which
> > means a lot of very expensive set building for the production crew and
> > even the best sets can't really set the same atmosphere as the real
> > thing.
>
> Hell, they'll just computer generate the whole thing, except for some
> primary artifacts, things that have to be handled or leaned against or
> whatever.
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Since: Jan 18, 2005 Posts: 119
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 4:53 pm
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In article <1277ftf2n50og32 DeleteThis @corp.supernews.com>,
Alric Knebel <alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:
> BTR1701 wrote:
>
> > In article <127515kkot4h3b DeleteThis @corp.supernews.com>,
> > Alric Knebel <alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>BTR1701 wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>In article <1148323308.577705.306040 DeleteThis @y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> >>> svjim DeleteThis @aol.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>It's happens before "The Da Vinci Code" . I'd opt for a different
> >>>>director/screenwriter and Robert Langdon even if you consider The Da
> >>>>Vinci Code movie good.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>The news ran a story today bout how Sony Pictures is already gearing up
> >>>for "Angels & Demons". Although since 90% of the story takes place in
> >>>the Vatican and various Catholic churches around Rome, and given how the
> >>>Catholic Church feels about Dan Brown, I don't see them granting
> >>>permission for much filming to be done at the actual locations. Which
> >>>means a lot of very expensive set building for the production crew and
> >>>even the best sets can't really set the same atmosphere as the real
> >>>thing.
> >>
> >>Hell, they'll just computer generate the whole thing, except for some
> >>primary artifacts, things that have to be handled or leaned against or
> >>whatever.
> >
> >
> > Even worse than building sets. Sets at least look real and substantial.
>
> I like the computer generated scenes. They're more atmospheric.
> Whatever it lacks, they'll just generate it. For instance, the 1930s
> New York City in "King Kong." I know it doesn't look realistic, but it
> was beautiful.
All that CGI stuff just looks like moving paintings to me. It has no
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Since: Jun 20, 2006 Posts: 42
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 6:46 pm
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svjim RemoveThis @aol.com wrote:
> It's happens before "The Da Vinci Code" . I'd opt for a different
> director/screenwriter and Robert Langdon even if you consider The Da
> Vinci Code movie good.
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> The Robert Landon character is a symbologist. For some people it seems
> symbolism="BS". Unless your imagination is open to the possiblity that
> someone put some thought into placing hidden meaning into something
> then of course you'd hate "The Da Vinci Code".
And those people are idiots. There is symbolism that can be inferred,
sure, but life is full of symbolism that is placed there on purpose.
[good] Prose, poetry and art are full of it. It exists in our rituals,
on our money, and our clothes, and of course, in our religions. Etc...
and so on. >> Stay informed about: Any Chance for "Angel & Demons" ? |
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