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James Neibaur

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:51 pm
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Going through some info sent to me as I gather info on Chaplin's Essanay
period, and I discovered that the Juvenile Film Corporation did a movie in
1916 called Chip's Carmen which satirized Chaplin's Burlesque on Carmen.
This was a two reeler directed by James A. FitzPatrick (yeah, the travelogue
guy), and starred Joseph and Janethel Monahan -- two children playing the
male and female leads. The movie has the kids attending a screening of
Chaplin's Burlesque on Carmen, when Joseph falls asleep and dreams him and
his sister in their own parody. The review states: "Josheph Monahan's Bon
Doze is an excellent imitation of the Darn Hosiery of Chaplin.

After searching the internet I found no information on this film, only two
films on imdb as having been produced by the Juvenile Film Corporation,
nothing in FitzPatrick's filmography, no listing for Janethel, but a listing
for Joseph Monahan offering only one credit (and no death date, although he
is listed as having been born in 1907).

Does anyone know anything about this film?

thanks in advance,
JN

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Rob Farr

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:42 am
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It was copyrighted on May 26, 1916 (just 34 days after Chaplin's release
date) as LU8357, so there should be something in the copyright deposit
microfilm rolls at the Library of Congress. It may hold the distinction of
being the first burlesque of a burlesque. The big blue copyright book
doesn't give any additional credits, but notes that there were 35 prints
struck.

Rob Farr
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"James Neibaur" <jneibaur.RemoveThis@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Going through some info sent to me as I gather info on Chaplin's Essanay
> period, and I discovered that the Juvenile Film Corporation did a movie in
> 1916 called Chip's Carmen which satirized Chaplin's Burlesque on Carmen.
> This was a two reeler directed by James A. FitzPatrick (yeah, the
travelogue
> guy), and starred Joseph and Janethel Monahan -- two children playing the
> male and female leads. The movie has the kids attending a screening of
> Chaplin's Burlesque on Carmen, when Joseph falls asleep and dreams him and
> his sister in their own parody. The review states: "Josheph Monahan's
Bon
> Doze is an excellent imitation of the Darn Hosiery of Chaplin.
>
> After searching the internet I found no information on this film, only two
> films on imdb as having been produced by the Juvenile Film Corporation,
> nothing in FitzPatrick's filmography, no listing for Janethel, but a
listing
> for Joseph Monahan offering only one credit (and no death date, although
he
> is listed as having been born in 1907).
>
> Does anyone know anything about this film?
>
> thanks in advance,
> JN
>

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James Neibaur

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:29 am
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Rob Farr 1/13/06 6:42 PM

> It was copyrighted on May 26, 1916 (just 34 days after Chaplin's release
> date) as LU8357, so there should be something in the copyright deposit
> microfilm rolls at the Library of Congress. It may hold the distinction of
> being the first burlesque of a burlesque. The big blue copyright book
> doesn't give any additional credits, but notes that there were 35 prints
> struck.

Thanks Rob. Of the material you sent me most recently, this is the thing
the piqued my curiosity as I hadn't ever known of its existence. And it
ties in with the Chaplin Essanay period.

None of these are in any credit listing for James A. FitzPatrick that I can
find, and he apparently directed several of them.

JN
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:36 am
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"Rob Farr" <lippfarr.RemoveThis@nine.netcom.com (when replying change nine to ix)>
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The big blue copyright book
> doesn't give any additional credits, but notes that there were 35 prints
> struck.

This note does not mean that there were 35 prints struck, rather that
the copyright deposit consists of 35 prints, which may be paper prints of
frames, stills or other such material in lieu of depositing nitrate film
prints with the copyright office.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 4:26 pm
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Robert Birchard 1/13/06 8:36 PM

> This note does not mean that there were 35 prints struck, rather that
> the copyright deposit consists of 35 prints, which may be paper prints of
> frames, stills or other such material in lieu of depositing nitrate film
> prints with the copyright office.

I was informed in an email that the film does still exist.

JN
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:15 pm
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About 25 years ago on Sunset Boulevard near Highland there was a
collector who was selling lobby cards from his home and among some
other obscure silent titles he had one for Chip's Carmen. My friends
and I were not especially impressed by the looks of the boy Chaplin
imitator, but perhaps he had all the gestures down pat. Sorry Jim, we
didn't buy it.
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