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Rich T

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:00 pm
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....from of course, "The Gold Rush"- question: who did this first,
Charlie or Roscoe Arbuckle? Heck, for all I know this was a common
vaudlille thing. The reason I ask: I was just reading some comments
after a blog post where people were correcting a previous commentor
who attributed a parody of that scene in a Simpsons episode to Johnny
Depp(!). I'm pretty sure Roscoe did it on film prior to "Gold Rush".
Thanks!
Rich

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Matt Barry

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 6:45 pm
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Roscoe Arbuckle's was the earliest on screen that I'm aware of, although it
could (and probably does) date back older than that. Depp did indeed do a
variation on the routine as well. Of course, in that Simpsons episode, part
of the joke is the lawyer who rushes in, representing "the estate of Charles
Chaplin, and demanding an immediate halt to this unauthorized
impersonation". I wonder if the writer of the blog even caught that part of
the joke.


"Rich T" <rich_tintera.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> ...from of course, "The Gold Rush"- question: who did this first,
> Charlie or Roscoe Arbuckle? Heck, for all I know this was a common
> vaudlille thing. The reason I ask: I was just reading some comments
> after a blog post where people were correcting a previous commentor
> who attributed a parody of that scene in a Simpsons episode to Johnny
> Depp(!). I'm pretty sure Roscoe did it on film prior to "Gold Rush".
> Thanks!
> Rich
>

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constance.kuriyama

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:08 pm
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On Sep 30, 5:05 pm, "Matt Barry" <bar... RemoveThis @bellatlantic.net> wrote:
> Roscoe Arbuckle's was the earliest on screen that I'm aware of, although it
> could (and probably does) date back older than that. Depp did indeed do a
> variation on the routine as well. Of course, in that Simpsons episode, part
> of the joke is the lawyer who rushes in, representing "the estate of Charles
> Chaplin, and demanding an immediate halt to this unauthorized
> impersonation". I wonder if the writer of the blog even caught that part of
> the joke.
>
> "Rich T" <rich_tint... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1191189646.284009.73460@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > ...from of course, "The Gold Rush"- question: who did this first,
> > Charlie or Roscoe Arbuckle? Heck, for all I know this was a common
> > vaudlille thing. The reason I ask: I was just reading some comments
> > after a blog post where people were correcting a previous commentor
> > who attributed a parody of that scene in a Simpsons episode to Johnny
> > Depp(!). I'm pretty sure Roscoe did it on film prior to "Gold Rush".
> > Thanks!
> > Rich

Arbuckle did a little impromptu dance with forks and rolls in _The
Rough House_,
which predates _The Gold Rush_. It's less elaborate than the version
Chaplin does--that is, there's no attempt to create the illusion of a
dancer.
Probably in one form or another it was a feat of legerdemain used by
vaudeville
performers and/or street entertainers long before it appeared on film.

Connie K.
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Hal Erickson

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:32 pm
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> Arbuckle did a little impromptu dance with forks and rolls in _The
> Rough House_,
> which predates _The Gold Rush_. It's less elaborate than the version
> Chaplin does--that is, there's no attempt to create the illusion of a
> dancer.
> Probably in one form or another it was a feat of legerdemain used by
> vaudeville
> performers and/or street entertainers long before it appeared on film.

There's a slightly similar dance sequence--human heads atop dancing
puppets--in PICTURE OF DORIAN GRAY, suggesting that the routine was seen in
various incarnations throughout the history of the British music hall.

Who did it first is unimportant. What is important is what Arbuckle and
Chaplin did WITH the routine.

--Hal E
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