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lvtv

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:45 am
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Help Needed. Service repair manual for CHINON 900 also 8500 7500 i
think were similar.
I have no audio, scchematics or circuit diagram specialy for audio
head, may help me.
We are a non prof org from southamerica, i apologise my English.
Thanks in advance.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:32 am
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lvtv <laviejaTV DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>Help Needed. Service repair manual for CHINON 900 also 8500 7500 i
>think were similar.
>I have no audio, scchematics or circuit diagram specialy for audio
>head, may help me.

I think you will discover that it is very hard to find manuals for ANY
of these projectors. For the most part they were designed to cheap and
disposable and so service documentation was not widely distributed.

For the most part, though, it is not difficult to fix any of these. It
becomes a matter of injecting signal into the head with a signal generator
and tracing it stage by stage down the line. Most of these are just
single capacitively-coupled gain stages with a small power amplifier stages.
So putting an oscilloscope on the base of each transistor tells you most
of what you need to know.

Most of the problems turn out to be bad electrolytic capacitors and the
rest of them turn out to be in the power amp. I tend to just shotgun out
all of the electrolytics before I touch them because if the capacitors are
not bad yet, they will probably go bad soon.

>We are a non prof org from southamerica, i apologise my English.

Your English is much better than my Spanish.
--scott

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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:22 am
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Scott Dorsey wrote:
> lvtv <laviejaTV.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Help Needed. Service repair manual for CHINON 900 also 8500 7500 i
> >think were similar.
> >I have no audio, scchematics or circuit diagram specialy for audio
> >head, may help me.
>
> I think you will discover that it is very hard to find manuals for ANY
> of these projectors. For the most part they were designed to cheap and
> disposable and so service documentation was not widely distributed.
>
> For the most part, though, it is not difficult to fix any of these. It
> becomes a matter of injecting signal into the head with a signal generator
> and tracing it stage by stage down the line. Most of these are just
> single capacitively-coupled gain stages with a small power amplifier stages.
> So putting an oscilloscope on the base of each transistor tells you most
> of what you need to know.
>
> Most of the problems turn out to be bad electrolytic capacitors and the
> rest of them turn out to be in the power amp. I tend to just shotgun out
> all of the electrolytics before I touch them because if the capacitors are
> not bad yet, they will probably go bad soon.
>
> >We are a non prof org from southamerica, i apologise my English.
>
> Your English is much better than my Spanish.
> --scott
>
> --
> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Thank´s Scott

Shure it was. For me its simply to repair a 35mm proyector, a Nagra or
other, but not super 8 machines. These Chinon 900 has only one magnetic
head, (all the cables where disoldered) the head have one gap but four
pins. I think the first 2, to erase and to the second pair come 2 wires
to the head and a "moving coil inductor?·. I think this is for !sound
on Sound" recording but, i dont know how that it works. Some idea?

Best regards

Javier
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:04 pm
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lvtv <laviejaTV.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Shure it was. For me its simply to repair a 35mm proyector, a Nagra or
>other, but not super 8 machines. These Chinon 900 has only one magnetic
>head, (all the cables where disoldered) the head have one gap but four
>pins. I think the first 2, to erase and to the second pair come 2 wires
>to the head and a "moving coil inductor?=B7. I think this is for !sound
>on Sound" recording but, i dont know how that it works. Some idea?

I think it's a combined erase head and record/play head. If so, there are
actually two gaps, one for the erase part and one for the record/play part.
A magnifier may help. If there is an inductor there, it's probably part of
the bias circuit and you can ignore it for the purposes of playback. Inductors
don't fail.

Apply signal from a bench oscillator to the record/play head contacts,
then start tracing. One thing that ALSO fails a lot is the record/play
switch or relay.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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