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Justin

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 9:50 am
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I looked at Kino's Chaplin offerings but they don't seem to have all
the early Keystones. Are these early shorts available? For example:

Laughing Gas
Dough and Dynamite
His Trysting Place
His Prehistoric Past
His New Profession

Thanks,

Justin Hertog

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:07 pm
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jkhertog111 DeleteThis @netscape.net (Justin) writes:

> I looked at Kino's Chaplin offerings but
> they don't seem to have all the early
> Keystones. Are these early shorts
> available? For example:

> Laughing Gas
> Dough and Dynamite
> His Trysting Place
> His Prehistoric Past
> His New Profession

Yes, they're all available from one venue or another.


Tom Moran

"You can get a great deal of entertainment
out of tedious people if you keep your head.''
-- W. Somerset Maugham

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Justin

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 8:38 am
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Which venues, specifically?

Thanks,

Justin

feuillade.RemoveThis@aol.com (Feuillade) wrote in message news:<20040430160728.04086.00000724.RemoveThis@mb-m12.aol.com>...
> jkhertog111.RemoveThis@netscape.net (Justin) writes:
>
> > I looked at Kino's Chaplin offerings but
> > they don't seem to have all the early
> > Keystones. Are these early shorts
> > available? For example:
>
> > Laughing Gas
> > Dough and Dynamite
> > His Trysting Place
> > His Prehistoric Past
> > His New Profession
>
> Yes, they're all available from one venue or another.
>
>
> Tom Moran
>
> "You can get a great deal of entertainment
> out of tedious people if you keep your head.''
> -- W. Somerset Maugham
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Doug Sulpy

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 11:36 pm
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In article <91b628df.0404300850.3a766f94.DeleteThis@posting.google.com>, Justin
<jkhertog111.DeleteThis@netscape.net> wrote:

> I looked at Kino's Chaplin offerings but they don't seem to have all
> the early Keystones. Are these early shorts available? For example:
>
> Laughing Gas
> Dough and Dynamite
> His Trysting Place
> His Prehistoric Past
> His New Profession
>
> Thanks,
>
> Justin Hertog

Justin... are you talking DVD or tape?

Doug
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Justin

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun May 02, 2004 7:48 pm
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Either DVD or Video is OK. More important is the quality of the image.

Doug Sulpy <dsulpy DeleteThis @ptd.net> wrote in message news:<010520042336219260%dsulpy@ptd.net>...
> In article <91b628df.0404300850.3a766f94 DeleteThis @posting.google.com>, Justin
> <jkhertog111 DeleteThis @netscape.net> wrote:
>
> > I looked at Kino's Chaplin offerings but they don't seem to have all
> > the early Keystones. Are these early shorts available? For example:
> >
> > Laughing Gas
> > Dough and Dynamite
> > His Trysting Place
> > His Prehistoric Past
> > His New Profession
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Justin Hertog
>
> Justin... are you talking DVD or tape?
>
> Doug
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Feuillade

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon May 03, 2004 10:49 am
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jkhertog111.RemoveThis@netscape.net (Justin) writes:

> Either DVD or Video is OK. More
> important is the quality of the image.

Don't expect much in terms of image quality from these Keystones no matter
where you get them from.

I've yet to see a first-rate print of any Chaplin Keystone.


Tom Moran

"You can get a great deal of entertainment
out of tedious people if you keep your head.''
-- W. Somerset Maugham
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon May 03, 2004 10:49 am
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feuillade.TakeThisOut@aol.com (Feuillade) wrote in message news:<20040503064922.29140.00000749.TakeThisOut@mb-m13.aol.com>...
> jkhertog111.TakeThisOut@netscape.net (Justin) writes:
>
> > Either DVD or Video is OK. More
> > important is the quality of the image.
>
> Don't expect much in terms of image quality from these Keystones no matter
> where you get them from.
>
> I've yet to see a first-rate print of any Chaplin Keystone.
>
>
> Tom Moran
>


That's right, unfortunately.
But the quality of Deltas DVDs is much worse than needed. Even their
documentary sound like it have been recorded on an old taperecorder,
and the tape bave been stored in a magnetic field as from a
loudspeaker, if you remember how those tapes sounded?
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Rob Farr

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun May 23, 2004 11:28 pm
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There are a couple of Keystones that have survived in pristine condition.
"Gentlemen of Nerve" was restored by the Library of Congress from a near
perfect paper print. It was aired on AMC's Comedy Festival several years
ago. The LoC has a paper print of "Dough and Dynamite", but I don't know if
they've done a 35mm restoration of it. "Mable's Married Life" can be seen
in a gorgeous print. It was an extra on Kino's VHS release of "Tillie's
Punctured Romance". And speaking of "Tillie", UCLA's soon-to-be-completed
restoration should be definitive, eclipsing even Kino's excellent version.

Rob Farr
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> jkhertog111 RemoveThis @netscape.net (Justin) writes:
>
> > Either DVD or Video is OK. More
> > important is the quality of the image.
>
> Don't expect much in terms of image quality from these Keystones no matter
> where you get them from.
>
> I've yet to see a first-rate print of any Chaplin Keystone.
>
>
> Tom Moran
>
> "You can get a great deal of entertainment
> out of tedious people if you keep your head.''
> -- W. Somerset Maugham
>
>
>
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Ulrich Ruedel

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 11:00 am
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And add to that the pristine print of KID'S AUTO RACES from Lobster's
collection, available on DVD. I hope their current restoration work with BFI
and Bologna will turn out more along those lines...

Uli

"Rob Farr" wrote

> There are a couple of Keystones that have survived in pristine condition.
> "Gentlemen of Nerve" was restored by the Library of Congress from a near
> perfect paper print. It was aired on AMC's Comedy Festival several years
> ago. The LoC has a paper print of "Dough and Dynamite", but I don't know
if
> they've done a 35mm restoration of it. "Mable's Married Life" can be seen
> in a gorgeous print. It was an extra on Kino's VHS release of "Tillie's
> Punctured Romance". And speaking of "Tillie", UCLA's soon-to-be-completed
> restoration should be definitive, eclipsing even Kino's excellent version.
>
> Rob Farr
> www.slapsticon.org
>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 11:54 pm
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"Ulrich Ruedel" <uruedel RemoveThis @t-online.de> wrote in message
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> And add to that the pristine print of KID'S AUTO RACES from Lobster's
> collection, available on DVD. I hope their current restoration work with
BFI
> and Bologna will turn out more along those lines...
>
> Uli

But I believe this print is missing a few shots; our own Doug Sulpy has
reconstructed the film rather nicely.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 11:24 am
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>"Feuillade" <feuillade.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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>> Don't expect much in terms of image quality from these Keystones no matter
>> where you get them from.
>>
>> I've yet to see a first-rate print of any Chaplin Keystone.

As I recall, didn't Blackhawk release fairly decent 16mm prints of the Chaplin
Keystones? Couldn't someone simply transfer those to DVD?
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