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Since: Dec 07, 2004 Posts: 222
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:32 am
Post subject: Re: Essanay Majestic Studio [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: alt>movies>chaplin (more info?)
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Constance Kuriyama wrote:
> "Shush" writes:
> > Never mind updating the Robinson book; somebody go do an annotated
> > edition of the autobiography!
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> Now there's a thought. But one would need the cooperation of the estate,
> and the project would involve massive research, some of which would
> have to be conducted in Europe. That means money as well as several years'
> labor.
Better get started now, Connie! No time like the present!
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Since: Nov 09, 2005 Posts: 14
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:36 am
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Shush wrote:
> > Or were a proportion of Roach's "Phunphilms" shot at Boyle Heights, as
> > well as the Bradbury Mansion?
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> I don't believe Roach ever operated out of Boyle Heights, but he was
> definitely working out of the Bradbury Mansion. A HISTORY OF THE HAL
> ROACH STUDIOS, by Richard Ward, says Roach was working at the Bradbury
> from 1917, but he was certainly there earlier than that. It also says
> Roach was working out of a facility on Allessandro Street in Edendale
> in 1915, which was news to me. Paging Annette Lloyd!!
I got the answer for you ... and, it would be a pleasure for me to
quote page 301 out of my Harold Lloyd Encyclopedia, in the entry on the
Rolin Film Company:
"As of March 24, 1915, the Rolin Film Company was headquartered at the
Bradbury Mansion, 406 Court Street, in Los Angeles; the Mansion was
used as a location long before Rolin established offices there; this
would continue to be a prime site of interior location shooting until
January 1920. However, on July 15, 1915, Rolin's studio moved to 1745
Allesandro Street, in the Edendale section of Los Angeles (the
telephone number was Wilshire 1912; property rented from F.E. Norton).
In September 1915, Rolin moved its offices to 907 Brockman Building,
Los Angeles."
I'm glad I can offer my help.
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Since: Jan 16, 2005 Posts: 349
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:57 am
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Annette Lloyd wrote:
> Shush wrote:
> > > Or were a proportion of Roach's "Phunphilms" shot at Boyle Heights, as
> > > well as the Bradbury Mansion?
> >
> >
> > I don't believe Roach ever operated out of Boyle Heights, but he was
> > definitely working out of the Bradbury Mansion. A HISTORY OF THE HAL
> > ROACH STUDIOS, by Richard Ward, says Roach was working at the Bradbury
> > from 1917, but he was certainly there earlier than that. It also says
> > Roach was working out of a facility on Allessandro Street in Edendale
> > in 1915, which was news to me. Paging Annette Lloyd!!
>
> I got the answer for you ... and, it would be a pleasure for me to
> quote page 301 out of my Harold Lloyd Encyclopedia, in the entry on the
> Rolin Film Company:
>
> "As of March 24, 1915, the Rolin Film Company was headquartered at the
> Bradbury Mansion, 406 Court Street, in Los Angeles; the Mansion was
> used as a location long before Rolin established offices there; this
> would continue to be a prime site of interior location shooting until
> January 1920. However, on July 15, 1915, Rolin's studio moved to 1745
> Allesandro Street, in the Edendale section of Los Angeles (the
> telephone number was Wilshire 1912; property rented from F.E. Norton).
> In September 1915, Rolin moved its offices to 907 Brockman Building,
> Los Angeles."
>
> I'm glad I can offer my help.
Thanks for the info, Annette. A quick google earth search confirmed
what I thought. The Allesandro address is within the same block
occupied by the Keystone Studio. Actually, the address is across the
street (now Glendale Blvd) from the Studio itself, but that's where the
Keystone office buildings (and some set storage) were located. (Does
anyone know if the Keystone business manager was named F.E. Norton?)
For those not familiar with the area, the Boyle Heights Majestic Studio
was a couple of miles east of the downtown LA Bradbury Mansion
location, and the Keystone studio location is about 5 miles northwest
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:13 am
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David Totheroh wrote:
> Thanks for the info, Annette. A quick google earth search confirmed
> what I thought. The Allesandro address is within the same block
> occupied by the Keystone Studio. Actually, the address is across the
> street (now Glendale Blvd) from the Studio itself, but that's where the
> Keystone office buildings (and some set storage) were located.
David, do you mean the address is on the opposite side of Glendale
Blvd., or on the other side of Effie or that other little street,
adjoining the old Sennett lot? Keystone expanded in 1915, and took over
the lot directly across Glendale Blvd. from the main studio.
> (Does
> anyone know if the Keystone business manager was named F.E. Norton?)
No, Keystone's business manager was George Stout at that point.
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:33 am
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Annette Lloyd wrote:
> "As of March 24, 1915, the Rolin Film Company was headquartered at the
> Bradbury Mansion, 406 Court Street, in Los Angeles; the Mansion was
> used as a location long before Rolin established offices there; this
> would continue to be a prime site of interior location shooting until
> January 1920. However, on July 15, 1915, Rolin's studio moved to 1745
> Allesandro Street, in the Edendale section of Los Angeles (the
> telephone number was Wilshire 1912; property rented from F.E. Norton).
> In September 1915, Rolin moved its offices to 907 Brockman Building,
> Los Angeles."
Thanks, Annette! It's just so surprising to me that the Rolins were
shot in the same area as the Keystones, because the exterior locations
used in the Keystones are so familiar to me, and the ones in the Rolins
just don't look like the same neighborhood.
It's also interesting that as soon as Chaplin began working at the
Bradbury, he tapped Snub Pollard for a supporting role or two. I love
Snub Pollard, but I wonder why Chaplin didn't use Harold Lloyd instead,
since Harold was there as well. Maybe Harold was too busy working on
the Rolin films, or maybe Snub simply had the right look for what
Chaplin had in mind. Or maybe Lloyd didn't impress him as being comical
enough?
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Since: Jan 16, 2005 Posts: 349
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:47 am
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Shush wrote:
> David Totheroh wrote:
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> > Thanks for the info, Annette. A quick google earth search confirmed
> > what I thought. The Allesandro address is within the same block
> > occupied by the Keystone Studio. Actually, the address is across the
> > street (now Glendale Blvd) from the Studio itself, but that's where the
> > Keystone office buildings (and some set storage) were located.
>
> David, do you mean the address is on the opposite side of Glendale
> Blvd., or on the other side of Effie or that other little street,
> adjoining the old Sennett lot? Keystone expanded in 1915, and took over
> the lot directly across Glendale Blvd. from the main studio.
1745 Allesandro would be on the west side of the street, now Glendale
Blvd., across from the Studio (now self-storage building at 1712
Glendale Blvd.). The expansion you mention is what I have always heard
was office space and set storage.
>
>
> > (Does
> > anyone know if the Keystone business manager was named F.E. Norton?)
>
> No, Keystone's business manager was George Stout at that point.
Did Keystone rent their space from F.E. Norton also, or had they
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:04 am
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David Totheroh wrote:
> Shush wrote:
> > David, do you mean the address is on the opposite side of Glendale
> > Blvd., or on the other side of Effie or that other little street,
> > adjoining the old Sennett lot? Keystone expanded in 1915, and took over
> > the lot directly across Glendale Blvd. from the main studio.
>
> 1745 Allesandro would be on the west side of the street, now Glendale
> Blvd., across from the Studio (now self-storage building at 1712
> Glendale Blvd.). The expansion you mention is what I have always heard
> was office space and set storage.
I believe they set up stages there as well. We could really use
Brent Walker's expertise here. If Sennett was also using the lot across
the street from Keystone, then where was the studio that Roach was
using?
> Did Keystone rent their space from F.E. Norton also, or had they
> purchased that space on the west side of Glendale?
The Keystone lot had been the Bison lot, and it was owned by the New
York Motion Picture Company, rather than leased. The NYMPC was
Keystone's parent company, and I think they owned the property from
around 1911 until NYMPC was folded into Triangle in 1915, and then when
Sennett broke away from Triangle in 1917 he managed to get title to the
property as well as the contracts of the people on his staff.
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