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Mr. Moose

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 3:28 pm
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Okay, so I was watching Unknown Chaplin last night, and got to the
marvelous segment with Eric Campbell chasing Chaplin down an escalator
for about 30 seconds. It's framed in such a way that it appears to be
from a release print, and the quality suggests this too.

The scene is nowhere near as long in the Shepard restoration, I just
checked the Image dvd, and it's not there.

So, the question is, where the heck does this come from? Is it from a
foreign release, or what? I know that there's a seperate version of
Floorwaler out there, we just discussed this a few days ago, but this
has not been mentioned, and I can find nothing on it.

What gives?

Mark

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Doug Sulpy

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 5:42 pm
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In article <1oc8iv0grl5n1j5674lgrjek7lf3hla415 RemoveThis @4ax.com>, Mr. Moose
<mutantmoose RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

> Okay, so I was watching Unknown Chaplin last night, and got to the
> marvelous segment with Eric Campbell chasing Chaplin down an escalator
> for about 30 seconds. It's framed in such a way that it appears to be
> from a release print, and the quality suggests this too.
>
> The scene is nowhere near as long in the Shepard restoration, I just
> checked the Image dvd, and it's not there.
>
> So, the question is, where the heck does this come from? Is it from a
> foreign release, or what? I know that there's a seperate version of
> Floorwaler out there, we just discussed this a few days ago, but this
> has not been mentioned, and I can find nothing on it.
>
> What gives?
>
> Mark

Applause, Mark! I think I can solve this, but I need to spend some
time on it first...

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Doug Sulpy

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 7:08 pm
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In article <270720031742532719%dsulpy@optonline.net>, Doug Sulpy
<dsulpy.RemoveThis@optonline.net> wrote:

> In article <1oc8iv0grl5n1j5674lgrjek7lf3hla415.RemoveThis@4ax.com>, Mr. Moose
> <mutantmoose.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Okay, so I was watching Unknown Chaplin last night, and got to the
> > marvelous segment with Eric Campbell chasing Chaplin down an escalator
> > for about 30 seconds. It's framed in such a way that it appears to be
> > from a release print, and the quality suggests this too.
> >
> > The scene is nowhere near as long in the Shepard restoration, I just
> > checked the Image dvd, and it's not there.
> >
> > So, the question is, where the heck does this come from? Is it from a
> > foreign release, or what? I know that there's a seperate version of
> > Floorwaler out there, we just discussed this a few days ago, but this
> > has not been mentioned, and I can find nothing on it.
> >
> > What gives?
> >
> > Mark
>
> Applause, Mark! I think I can solve this, but I need to spend some
> time on it first...

OK. It's the same as the silent Blackhawk version, which looks like it
was sourced from a Kodascope.
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Mr. Moose

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 7:08 pm
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On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 19:08:16 -0400, Doug Sulpy <dsulpy RemoveThis @optonline.net>
wrote:

>In article <270720031742532719%dsulpy@optonline.net>, Doug Sulpy
><dsulpy RemoveThis @optonline.net> wrote:
>
>> In article <1oc8iv0grl5n1j5674lgrjek7lf3hla415 RemoveThis @4ax.com>, Mr. Moose
>> <mutantmoose RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Okay, so I was watching Unknown Chaplin last night, and got to the
>> > marvelous segment with Eric Campbell chasing Chaplin down an escalator
>> > for about 30 seconds. It's framed in such a way that it appears to be
>> > from a release print, and the quality suggests this too.
>> >
>> > The scene is nowhere near as long in the Shepard restoration, I just
>> > checked the Image dvd, and it's not there.
>> >
>> > So, the question is, where the heck does this come from? Is it from a
>> > foreign release, or what? I know that there's a seperate version of
>> > Floorwaler out there, we just discussed this a few days ago, but this
>> > has not been mentioned, and I can find nothing on it.
>> >
>> > What gives?
>> >
>> > Mark
>>
>> Applause, Mark! I think I can solve this, but I need to spend some
>> time on it first...
>
>OK. It's the same as the silent Blackhawk version, which looks like it
>was sourced from a Kodascope.

The Unknown Chaplin version is the same as the silent Blackhawk
version?

Then why the heck is this missing from the Image version? And what
else is different between the two?

Mark
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James Neibaur

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 8:35 pm
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in article 1oc8iv0grl5n1j5674lgrjek7lf3hla415 RemoveThis @4ax.com, Mr. Moose at
mutantmoose RemoveThis @yahoo.com wrote on 7/27/03 3:28 PM:

> Okay, so I was watching Unknown Chaplin last night, and got to the
> marvelous segment with Eric Campbell chasing Chaplin down an escalator
> for about 30 seconds. It's framed in such a way that it appears to be
> from a release print, and the quality suggests this too.
>
> The scene is nowhere near as long in the Shepard restoration, I just
> checked the Image dvd, and it's not there

On the same note, the footage of this scene in the Youngson compilation 30
Years of Fun, which I have on 16mm, seems to be longer than the same
sequence in my Super 8 Blackhawk print of The Floorwalker.

JN
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Doug Sulpy

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 3:26 am
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In article <PtmdnS5_2NyYNbmiXTWJjw.RemoveThis@comcast.com>, Frodis
<antifrodis.RemoveThis@antifrodis.com> wrote:

> Okay Doug, I'll bite,
>
> What does the note say? :)
>
> Frodis

Mr. George Brush,

General Manager of the Big Store,

Dear Sir: Discovered $80,000 shortage in your accounts. Sending
detectives to investigate.

M. Lowenstein
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SRydzewski

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 2:05 am
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While you folks are on the subject of The Floorwalker, I just came across this
paragraph taken in part from the April 22, 1916 issue of Reel Life, Mutuals
trade journal:

Work on the new comedy (The Floorwalker) had its serious as well as its funny
side. This was demonstrated a few days ago when Chaplin, during the filming of
one of the scenes on the escalator, had a narrow escape from painful injury.
All that saved him, it was learned later, was one of his shoes, famous the
world over for their length and width. On one of his trips up the moving
stairway Chaplin slipped as he neared the top. The point of his shoes had
caught between the steps. There was a sound of breaking wood and a gasp from
those watching him work. Chaplin, however, managed to extricate himself. Then
it was found that he was uninjured -- all but the shoe, the toe of which was
completely torn off.
After securing another pair of shoes, Chaplin resumed work, none the worse for
his experience.

Just wanted to throw that in!

SteveR
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 2:05 am
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SRydzewski wrote...

> While you folks are on the subject of The Floorwalker, I just came across this
> paragraph taken in part from the April 22, 1916 issue of Reel Life, Mutuals
> trade journal:
>
> Work on the new comedy (The Floorwalker) had its serious as well as its funny
> side. This was demonstrated a few days ago when Chaplin, during the filming of
> one of the scenes on the escalator, had a narrow escape from painful injury.
> All that saved him, it was learned later, was one of his shoes, famous the
> world over for their length and width. On one of his trips up the moving
> stairway Chaplin slipped as he neared the top. The point of his shoes had
> caught between the steps. There was a sound of breaking wood and a gasp from
> those watching him work. Chaplin, however, managed to extricate himself. Then
> it was found that he was uninjured -- all but the shoe, the toe of which was
> completely torn off.
> After securing another pair of shoes, Chaplin resumed work, none the worse for
> his experience.


Too bad Buster Keaton didn't have this article handy while filming
"The Electric House"--- he might've saved himself that broken ankle!



--Shush--
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Constance Kuriyama

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 7:35 am
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Shushfilm.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com (Shush) wrote in message news:<7767154c.0307302305.407ea052.TakeThisOut@posting.google.com>...
> SRydzewski wrote...
>
> > While you folks are on the subject of The Floorwalker, I just came across this
> > paragraph taken in part from the April 22, 1916 issue of Reel Life, Mutuals
> > trade journal:
> >
> > Work on the new comedy (The Floorwalker) had its serious as well as its funny
> > side. This was demonstrated a few days ago when Chaplin, during the filming of
> > one of the scenes on the escalator, had a narrow escape from painful injury.
> > All that saved him, it was learned later, was one of his shoes, famous the
> > world over for their length and width. On one of his trips up the moving
> > stairway Chaplin slipped as he neared the top. The point of his shoes had
> > caught between the steps. There was a sound of breaking wood and a gasp from
> > those watching him work. Chaplin, however, managed to extricate himself. Then
> > it was found that he was uninjured -- all but the shoe, the toe of which was
> > completely torn off.
> > After securing another pair of shoes, Chaplin resumed work, none the worse for
> > his experience.
>
>
> Too bad Buster Keaton didn't have this article handy while filming
> "The Electric House"--- he might've saved himself that broken ankle!
>
> --Shush--

I'm now more convinced than ever that Chaplin went through quite a few
pairs of shoes, canes (one of which is demolished in _Unknown Chaplin),
and derbies during his career as the Tramp. The nature of the work
guaranteed wear and tear on the costumes. ;-) Too bad no one ever
supplied statistics on this subject. Or perhaps they did, and we just
haven't found the info yet.

Connie K.
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