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(Msg. 16) Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 9:59 pm
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Why would 101 be the control center? Forgive my infamiliarity with computer
specifics.
-Knowledge
"MCN" <mcnhh.DeleteThis@web.de> wrote in message
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> "Diogo Bastos" <damrho.DeleteThis@netcabo.pt> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:40c71b73$0$1845$a729d347@news.telepac.pt...
> > I think there is some significance to this number because I've seen it
> > applied many times but since I'm not english I have no idea what those
> > particular expressions meant.
>
> 1-0-1 is the number of the basic course at all US colleges. Its were one
> starts. It is often used as a methapher for the start, the introduction.
On
> a computer the runlevel 1 is the OS level which is controlling everything
> on the higher levels. So room 101 would be the control-center. At least
that
> is how I understood it.
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:12 am
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"Knowledge" <knowledge DeleteThis @shaw.ca> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Why would 101 be the control center? Forgive my infamiliarity with
computer
> specifics.
A computer is workig on a set of different levels. Level 1 is the highest,
software-controlled level. Above runlevel 1 is only runlevel 0 where the
main hardware is configurating itself (controlled by the BIOS, which is
hardware too) during the boot-process. So after a start when the hardware is
ready and configured it hands over to the OS on runlevel 1 by loading the
kernel. The first task (01) is to load the OS-kernel, the core of the OS,
the core that is generating the OS and its environment on which all further
tasks are running. So it sets the rules. Which background picture you have
on your PC or so is decided on much lower levels, but that has no influence
on how the computer-system is working. If you do a warm (soft) reboot you
are just restarting this first task that is generating the system from new.
A change there would change the newly generated OS and all that is based on
it after the reboot too. So room 101 was the place where he could trigger a
full reboot.
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 12:54 pm
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Diogo Bastos <news:40c8a85a$0$1824$a729d347@news.telepac.pt>:
> "**** ********" <noone RemoveThis @nowhere.net> escreveu na mensagem
> news:aDUxc.20441$Dr.13511@edtnps84...
> > Knowledge wrote:
> > <snips>
> > > Anybody know of anymore 101s,
> >
> > English 101
> >
> > > I think there is some
> > > underlying significance to this number.
> >
> > 5?
>
> It means five (5) as much as it means one hundred and one...
101 in binary is 5 in decimal.
101 in ternary is 10 in decimal.
101 in quaternary is 17 in decimal.
101 in quinary is 26 in decimal.
101 in senary/hexary is 37 in decimal.
101 in septenary/septary is 50 in decimal.
101 in octal is 65 in decimal.
101 in nonary is 82 in decimal.
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 6:40 am
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Did you make all that up JPM?
-Knowledge
"JPM III" <jpmccord.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Diogo Bastos <news:40c8a85a$0$1824$a729d347@news.telepac.pt>:
> > "**** ********" <noone.TakeThisOut@nowhere.net> escreveu na mensagem
> > news:aDUxc.20441$Dr.13511@edtnps84...
> > > Knowledge wrote:
> > > <snips>
> > > > Anybody know of anymore 101s,
> > >
> > > English 101
> > >
> > > > I think there is some
> > > > underlying significance to this number.
> > >
> > > 5?
> >
> > It means five (5) as much as it means one hundred and one...
>
> 101 in binary is 5 in decimal.
> 101 in ternary is 10 in decimal.
> 101 in quaternary is 17 in decimal.
> 101 in quinary is 26 in decimal.
> 101 in senary/hexary is 37 in decimal.
> 101 in septenary/septary is 50 in decimal.
> 101 in octal is 65 in decimal.
> 101 in nonary is 82 in decimal.
>
> 101 simply means [base]^2 + 1.
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 10:16 pm
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I don't have the power to make up numbers. All I did was do the
calculations. :-)
So no, I didn't make it up.
Knowledge <news:RjaBc.783144$Pk3.437471@pd7tw1no>:
> Did you make all that up JPM?
>
> >
> > 101 in binary is 5 in decimal.
> > 101 in ternary is 10 in decimal.
> > 101 in quaternary is 17 in decimal.
> > 101 in quinary is 26 in decimal.
> > 101 in senary/hexary is 37 in decimal.
> > 101 in septenary/septary is 50 in decimal.
> > 101 in octal is 65 in decimal.
> > 101 in nonary is 82 in decimal.
> >
> > 101 simply means [base]^2 + 1. >> Stay informed about: Funny thing about room 101 |
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:41 am
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Can you explain how you derive the decimals from the various types of
"ary's"?
-Knowledge
"JPM III" <jpmccord DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I don't have the power to make up numbers. All I did was do the
> calculations. :-)
>
> So no, I didn't make it up.
>
>
> Knowledge <news:RjaBc.783144$Pk3.437471@pd7tw1no>:
> > Did you make all that up JPM?
> >
> > >
> > > 101 in binary is 5 in decimal.
> > > 101 in ternary is 10 in decimal.
> > > 101 in quaternary is 17 in decimal.
> > > 101 in quinary is 26 in decimal.
> > > 101 in senary/hexary is 37 in decimal.
> > > 101 in septenary/septary is 50 in decimal.
> > > 101 in octal is 65 in decimal.
> > > 101 in nonary is 82 in decimal.
> > >
> > > 101 simply means [base]^2 + 1.
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 6:36 am
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Knowledge wrote:
> Can you explain how you derive the decimals from the various types of
> "ary's"?
This was sort of described on JPM's last line. More generally, the decimal
conversion of a number system may be calculated by:
(xn)b^n + ... + (x2)b^2 + (x1)b^1 + (x0)b^0
where b is the base, b necessarily being > 1*, and
x(subscript) is the value of the digit at position subscript + 1**, the
digit necessarily being < b.
[* =, unary being {0}? Is this a valid number system?]
[** subscript must be incremented, as there is no empirical 'position 0']
ex. 542 in base 6
= (5 * 6^2) + (4 * 6^1) + (2 * 6^0)
= (5 * 36) + (4 * 6) + (2 * 1)
= 180 + 24 + 2
= 206 in base 10 (decimal)
binary (base 2) counting:
0=__0
1=__1
2=_10
3=_11
4=100
5=101 = (1 * 2^2) + (0 * 2^1) + (1 * 2^0)
6=110
7=111
ternary (base 3) counting:
_0=__0
_1=__1
_2=__2
_3=_10
_4=_11
_5=_12
_6=_20
_7=_21
_8=_22
_9=100
10=101 = (1 * 3^2) + (0 * 3^1) + (1 * 3^0)
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:27 pm
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Knowledge <news:UNsBc.797383$Pk3.763265@pd7tw1no>:
> Can you explain how you derive the decimals from the various types of
> "ary's"?
>
> -Knowledge
>
> "JPM III" <jpmccord DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2jmunsF132622U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > I don't have the power to make up numbers. All I did was do the
> > calculations. :-)
> >
> > So no, I didn't make it up.
> >
> >
> > Knowledge <news:RjaBc.783144$Pk3.437471@pd7tw1no>:
> > > Did you make all that up JPM?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > 101 in binary is 5 in decimal.
> > > > 101 in ternary is 10 in decimal.
> > > > 101 in quaternary is 17 in decimal.
> > > > 101 in quinary is 26 in decimal.
> > > > 101 in senary/hexary is 37 in decimal.
> > > > 101 in septenary/septary is 50 in decimal.
> > > > 101 in octal is 65 in decimal.
> > > > 101 in nonary is 82 in decimal.
> > > >
> > > > 101 simply means [base]^2 + 1.
base 2 = binary
base 3 = ternary or trinary
base 4 = quaternary or quadrary
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:31 pm
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JPM III <news:2jok43F14ckrvU1@uni-berlin.de>:
> Knowledge <news:UNsBc.797383$Pk3.763265@pd7tw1no>:
> > Can you explain how you derive the decimals from the various types
> > of "ary's"?
> >
> > -Knowledge
> >
> > "JPM III" <jpmccord.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:2jmunsF132622U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > I don't have the power to make up numbers. All I did was do the
> > > calculations. :-)
> > >
> > > So no, I didn't make it up.
> > >
> > >
> > > Knowledge <news:RjaBc.783144$Pk3.437471@pd7tw1no>:
> > > > Did you make all that up JPM?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 101 in binary is 5 in decimal.
> > > > > 101 in ternary is 10 in decimal.
> > > > > 101 in quaternary is 17 in decimal.
> > > > > 101 in quinary is 26 in decimal.
> > > > > 101 in senary/hexary is 37 in decimal.
> > > > > 101 in septenary/septary is 50 in decimal.
> > > > > 101 in octal is 65 in decimal.
> > > > > 101 in nonary is 82 in decimal.
> > > > >
> > > > > 101 simply means [base]^2 + 1.
>
> base 2 = binary
> base 3 = ternary or trinary
> base 4 = quaternary or quadrary
> b
Weird, either I hit the wrong button, or something sent the message before I
was finished. Anyway...
base 2 = binary
base 3 = ternary or trinary
base 4 = quaternary or quadrary
base 5 = quinary
base 6 = hexary or senary
base 7 = septary or septenary
base 8 = octal or octary or octinary
base 9 = nonary
base 10 = decimal (standard)
The ones digit is the multiple of (base) to the zero power.
The tens digit is the multiple of (base) to the first power.
The next digit is the multiple of (base) to the second power.
So using 101 as an example:
base 2 --- 1*(2^2) + 0*(2^1) + 1*(2^0) = 4 + 0 + 1 = 5
base 2 --- 1*(2^2) + 0*(2^1) + 1*(2^0) = 4 + 0 + 1 = 5
base 2 --- 1*(2^2) + 0*(2^1) + 1*(2^0) = 4 + 0 + 1 = 5
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:33 pm
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> Weird, either I hit the wrong button, or something sent the message
> before I was finished. Anyway...
>
> base 2 = binary
> base 3 = ternary or trinary
> base 4 = quaternary or quadrary
> base 5 = quinary
> base 6 = hexary or senary
> base 7 = septary or septenary
> base 8 = octal or octary or octinary
> base 9 = nonary
> base 10 = decimal (standard)
>
> The ones digit is the multiple of (base) to the zero power.
> The tens digit is the multiple of (base) to the first power.
> The next digit is the multiple of (base) to the second power.
>
> So using 101 as an example:
It did it again. This is getting annoying. Grr.
base 2 --- 1*(2^2) + 0*(2^1) + 1*(2^0) = 4 + 0 + 1 = 5
base 3 --- 1*(3^2) + 0*(3^1) + 1*(3^0) = 9 + 0 + 1 = 10
base 4 --- 1*(4^2) + 0*(4^1) + 1*(4^0) = 16 + 0 + 1 = 17
base 5 --- 1*(5^2) + 0*(5^1) + 1*(5^0) = 25 + 0 + 1 = 26
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 4:10 am
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Why does it go from the power of 2 (2^2) to the power of 1 (2^1) to the
power of 0 (2^0)??? Answer this question and I will be fully satisfied :-)
-Knowledge
"JPM III" <jpmccord RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > Weird, either I hit the wrong button, or something sent the message
> > before I was finished. Anyway...
> >
> > base 2 = binary
> > base 3 = ternary or trinary
> > base 4 = quaternary or quadrary
> > base 5 = quinary
> > base 6 = hexary or senary
> > base 7 = septary or septenary
> > base 8 = octal or octary or octinary
> > base 9 = nonary
> > base 10 = decimal (standard)
> >
> > The ones digit is the multiple of (base) to the zero power.
> > The tens digit is the multiple of (base) to the first power.
> > The next digit is the multiple of (base) to the second power.
> >
> > So using 101 as an example:
>
> It did it again. This is getting annoying. Grr.
>
> base 2 --- 1*(2^2) + 0*(2^1) + 1*(2^0) = 4 + 0 + 1 = 5
> base 3 --- 1*(3^2) + 0*(3^1) + 1*(3^0) = 9 + 0 + 1 = 10
> base 4 --- 1*(4^2) + 0*(4^1) + 1*(4^0) = 16 + 0 + 1 = 17
> base 5 --- 1*(5^2) + 0*(5^1) + 1*(5^0) = 25 + 0 + 1 = 26
>
> So 101 in any base is the base squared plus 1.
>
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:01 am
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That's just the way the math works.
And it doesn't go *from* the power of 2. It goes *from* the power of zero
(on the right), and then goes up as it moves to the left. Then depending on
what base you're working with, it affects what number is raised to whatever
power you're raising to.
123 in base 4 = 3*(4^0) + 2*(4^1) + 1*(4^2) = 3 + 8 + 16 = 27
123 in base 7 = 3*(7^0) + 2*(7^1) + 1*(7^2) = 3 + 14 + 49 = 66
123 in base 10 = 3*(10^0) + 2*(10^1) + 1*(10^2) = 3 + 20 + 100 = 123
You're just adding one digit at a time.
Knowledge <news:uiOBc.856534$Ig.465@pd7tw2no>:
> Why does it go from the power of 2 (2^2) to the power of 1 (2^1) to
> the power of 0 (2^0)??? Answer this question and I will be fully
> satisfied :-)
>
> -Knowledge
>
> "JPM III" <jpmccord.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2jokfpF11neolU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > Weird, either I hit the wrong button, or something sent the
> > > message before I was finished. Anyway...
> > >
> > > base 2 = binary
> > > base 3 = ternary or trinary
> > > base 4 = quaternary or quadrary
> > > base 5 = quinary
> > > base 6 = hexary or senary
> > > base 7 = septary or septenary
> > > base 8 = octal or octary or octinary
> > > base 9 = nonary
> > > base 10 = decimal (standard)
> > >
> > > The ones digit is the multiple of (base) to the zero power.
> > > The tens digit is the multiple of (base) to the first power.
> > > The next digit is the multiple of (base) to the second power.
> > >
> > > So using 101 as an example:
> >
> > It did it again. This is getting annoying. Grr.
> >
> > base 2 --- 1*(2^2) + 0*(2^1) + 1*(2^0) = 4 + 0 + 1 = 5
> > base 3 --- 1*(3^2) + 0*(3^1) + 1*(3^0) = 9 + 0 + 1 = 10
> > base 4 --- 1*(4^2) + 0*(4^1) + 1*(4^0) = 16 + 0 + 1 = 17
> > base 5 --- 1*(5^2) + 0*(5^1) + 1*(5^0) = 25 + 0 + 1 = 26
> >
> > So 101 in any base is the base squared plus 1. >> Stay informed about: Funny thing about room 101 |
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 11:24 pm
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Excellent! I completely understand! Thank you JPM! Thank you! ;-)
-Knowledge
"JPM III" <jpmccord.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> That's just the way the math works.
>
> And it doesn't go *from* the power of 2. It goes *from* the power of zero
> (on the right), and then goes up as it moves to the left. Then depending
on
> what base you're working with, it affects what number is raised to
whatever
> power you're raising to.
>
> 123 in base 4 = 3*(4^0) + 2*(4^1) + 1*(4^2) = 3 + 8 + 16 = 27
>
> 123 in base 7 = 3*(7^0) + 2*(7^1) + 1*(7^2) = 3 + 14 + 49 = 66
>
> 123 in base 10 = 3*(10^0) + 2*(10^1) + 1*(10^2) = 3 + 20 + 100 = 123
>
>
>
> You're just adding one digit at a time.
>
>
> Knowledge <news:uiOBc.856534$Ig.465@pd7tw2no>:
> > Why does it go from the power of 2 (2^2) to the power of 1 (2^1) to
> > the power of 0 (2^0)??? Answer this question and I will be fully
> > satisfied :-)
> >
> > -Knowledge
> >
> > "JPM III" <jpmccord.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:2jokfpF11neolU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > > Weird, either I hit the wrong button, or something sent the
> > > > message before I was finished. Anyway...
> > > >
> > > > base 2 = binary
> > > > base 3 = ternary or trinary
> > > > base 4 = quaternary or quadrary
> > > > base 5 = quinary
> > > > base 6 = hexary or senary
> > > > base 7 = septary or septenary
> > > > base 8 = octal or octary or octinary
> > > > base 9 = nonary
> > > > base 10 = decimal (standard)
> > > >
> > > > The ones digit is the multiple of (base) to the zero power.
> > > > The tens digit is the multiple of (base) to the first power.
> > > > The next digit is the multiple of (base) to the second power.
> > > >
> > > > So using 101 as an example:
> > >
> > > It did it again. This is getting annoying. Grr.
> > >
> > > base 2 --- 1*(2^2) + 0*(2^1) + 1*(2^0) = 4 + 0 + 1 = 5
> > > base 3 --- 1*(3^2) + 0*(3^1) + 1*(3^0) = 9 + 0 + 1 = 10
> > > base 4 --- 1*(4^2) + 0*(4^1) + 1*(4^0) = 16 + 0 + 1 = 17
> > > base 5 --- 1*(5^2) + 0*(5^1) + 1*(5^0) = 25 + 0 + 1 = 26
> > >
> > > So 101 in any base is the base squared plus 1.
>
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:14 pm
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Arrogantly twisting the sterile canvas snoot of a fully charged icing
anointment utensil, Angela Kahealani <angela RemoveThis @kahealani.com> poots
forth...
>At Tuesday 2004-06-08 10:36 "Diogo Bastos" <damrho RemoveThis @netcabo.pt> posted
><40c62627$0$1825$a729d347@news.telepac.pt> to alt.movies.the-matrix:
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>> 101 seems to be not only Neo's and Merovingian's number
>
>If you go back a little further in history...
>George Orwell's book "1984"... the major character is?:
>
>Winston SMITH
>
>Who gets reprogrammed by The Matrix in?:
>
>Room 101
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>...and once programmed, he says?:
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>I Love Big Brother (The Matrix)
Also from 1984: "You asked me once," said O'Brien, "what was in Room
101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The
thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world."
I like the idea mooted here before that places marked '101' are some
kind of safehouses - areas that the Architect and the programmers of the
Matrix can't see into. The inhabitants of areas marked 101 may be
shielded from observation and intrusion - this would certainly appear to
be true of the Merovingian, and of Neo in his apartment to some extent.
Another theory I like is that 101 areas are 'ground zero' points in the
Matrix - 'hot spots', where the workings of the Matrix are either more
apparent, or entirely revealed, like the 'haunted house' in Beyond.
--
Gavin Smith
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 1:02 am
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Angela Kahealani <news:2467949.nJxVT5lCTZ@kahealani.com>:
> At Tuesday 2004-06-08 10:36 "Diogo Bastos" <damrho DeleteThis @netcabo.pt> posted
> <40c62627$0$1825$a729d347@news.telepac.pt> to alt.movies.the-matrix:
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> > 101 seems to be not only Neo's and Merovingian's number
>
> If you go back a little further in history...
> George Orwell's book "1984"... the major character is?:
>
> Winston SMITH
>
> Who gets reprogrammed by The Matrix in?:
>
> Room 101
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> ...and once programmed, he says?:
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> I Love Big Brother (The Matrix)
So the underlying truth is...
Morpheus' real name is O'Brien,
and Trinity's real name is Julia. >> Stay informed about: Funny thing about room 101 |
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