G2 Wireless for radio link between camera and sound?

Wise Words Oleg...I agree
Austin
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Austin Storms wrote:
> Wise Words Oleg...I agree
> Austin

We cannot compare different things. We can compare
a mic of $600 with another one also of $600.

Gabriel
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..> > Gabriel,
> > Oh yes, Levels on the G2 going to camera were great, frequency read
> > clean on the G2 RX, but the sound quality compared to the 744T was
> > drastic to my ears. That's all. I guess I'm picky about how my
> > audio sounds, but on a side note the assistant editor was happy with
> > the G2 audio and thought that it was good to go until he heard the 744T
> > tracks and then was able to tell the difference between good and really
> > good. Its all a matter of what you start with and what you're used
> > to.
> >
> > Austin Storms

If it uses the output of -10 of the 744, to adjust the transmitter G2
for -30, it works very
well as link and the sound can be used without problem, it only
depends on the adjustments among
744/transmitter/receiver/camera.
Obviously, a Zaxcom will be better

Gabriel
 >> Stay informed about: G2 Wireless for radio link between camera and sound? 

Oleg Kaizerman wrote:
> almost everything will be better,
> didn't camper with sony that cost 5 times more which might loose :-)
>
> even the audio 2000/ lectrosonics 195/200 which are 8-10 years back in
> design sounds better
> what says something about Sennheiser product ,since with that kind of gap
> you do expect see some improvement even in the unit which is targeting for
> eng ( the 500 which is almost the same).
> there is no difference in g-2 quality to feed it line or mike , seems its
> just attenuate the signal.


Você cansou minha belaza outra vez, fui!!!

Gabriel
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cheaper solution :-)

--
Oleg Kaizerman (gebe) Hollyland
"Jason Porter" <soundmixer.TakeThisOut@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> What is the logic behind having a "wide front end?" better dynamic
> range?,
> better usable range (distance)?
>
> -Jason
>
> "xort" <ekcine.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> Austin Storms wrote:
>> > So as a camera link go with the Lectro 201s and nothing less
>>
>> Austin
>> Excellent post, but I'd like to mention that I have the 201 & 195D's. I
>> was in an airport and was getting killed with my 201. I switched to my
>> 195D and all the hits went away. The wide front end of the 201 makes it
>> inferior to the 195D and the other 200 series Lectros.
>>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: G2 Wireless for radio link between camera and sound? 

What would be an interesting comparison would be to do the same test, (G2 /
744T), with some of the higher end radios, ie, Zaxcom, Audio, Lectro, and in
the AUS/UK market, Micros.
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com

"Austin Storms" <Stormsaudio DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote in message
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> Gabriel,
> Oh yes, Levels on the G2 going to camera were great, frequency read
> clean on the G2 RX, but the sound quality compared to the 744T was
> drastic to my ears. That's all. I guess I'm picky about how my
> audio sounds, but on a side note the assistant editor was happy with
> the G2 audio and thought that it was good to go until he heard the 744T
> tracks and then was able to tell the difference between good and really
> good. Its all a matter of what you start with and what you're used
> to.
>
> Austin Storms
>
 >> Stay informed about: G2 Wireless for radio link between camera and sound? 

Why is that?
They both intend to do the same thing .
Sorry to disappoint you ,the price range sometimes have nothing to do with
quality in the world we live to day ,
the targeting price might be significant lower since the number of units
which suppose to been sold directly influence on that , the workers wages
and the company strategy (dumping policy by sennheiser), not to mention you
are sometimes pay for the name of the product for you better feeling :-)
Take the Nagra 5 - does it could be compare to 744 which cost half :-),
could it camper to fostex fr-2 which do exactly the same and cost 6000$ less
?
You can camper everything that does the same - you just have to know what
is the benefit of each unit .
and Bie , this is 420$ unit - not 600$ ( at least in the states where you
buy your gear )

--
Oleg Kaizerman (gebe) Hollyland
<biegomes.TakeThisOut@uol.com.br> wrote in message
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>
> Austin Storms wrote:
>> Wise Words Oleg...I agree
>> Austin
>
> We cannot compare different things. We can compare
> a mic of $600 with another one also of $600.
>
> Gabriel
>
 >> Stay informed about: G2 Wireless for radio link between camera and sound? 

biegomes DeleteThis @uol.com.br wrote:
> We cannot compare different things. We can compare
> a mic of $600 with another one also of $600.

While your statement has validity on its own, this particular thread was
initiated by someone asking those here who have used both systems to
compare them.

Oleg's post addressed that directly.

John Blankenship, C.A.S.
Indianapolis
(email: my initials at mw daht net)


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I can talk about only 2 I did test this way , the 744 always sounds better
, since it direct feed .
for test with schoeps mike thru the 744 as the preamp the expensive unit
sounded better when was recorded on digi beta.
both units sounded better then the third one(the one which doesn't
manufacture in the new world and cost as the expensive one) when they
tested for what sounds better with schoeps to 302 as a preamp then
wierless to 744 :-)

--
Oleg Kaizerman (gebe) Hollyland


"Martin Harrington" <lendan RemoveThis @bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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> What would be an interesting comparison would be to do the same test, (G2
> / 744T), with some of the higher end radios, ie, Zaxcom, Audio, Lectro,
> and in the AUS/UK market, Micros.
> --
> Martin Harrington
> www.lendanear-sound.com
>
> "Austin Storms" <Stormsaudio RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1134235168.475929.174210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Gabriel,
>> Oh yes, Levels on the G2 going to camera were great, frequency read
>> clean on the G2 RX, but the sound quality compared to the 744T was
>> drastic to my ears. That's all. I guess I'm picky about how my
>> audio sounds, but on a side note the assistant editor was happy with
>> the G2 audio and thought that it was good to go until he heard the 744T
>> tracks and then was able to tell the difference between good and really
>> good. Its all a matter of what you start with and what you're used
>> to.
>>
>> Austin Storms
>>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: G2 Wireless for radio link between camera and sound? 

almost everything will be better,
didn't camper with sony that cost 5 times more which might loose :-)

even the audio 2000/ lectrosonics 195/200 which are 8-10 years back in
design sounds better
what says something about Sennheiser product ,since with that kind of gap
you do expect see some improvement even in the unit which is targeting for
eng ( the 500 which is almost the same).
there is no difference in g-2 quality to feed it line or mike , seems its
just attenuate the signal.

--
Oleg Kaizerman (gebe) Hollyland
> Obviously, a Zaxcom will be better
>
> Gabriel
>
 >> Stay informed about: G2 Wireless for radio link between camera and sound? 

ask from Tony to loop it in Spanish :-)

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Oleg Kaizerman (gebe) Hollyland


<biegomes.RemoveThis@uol.com.br> wrote in message
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Oleg Kaizerman wrote:
> almost everything will be better,
> didn't camper with sony that cost 5 times more which might loose :-)
>
> even the audio 2000/ lectrosonics 195/200 which are 8-10 years back in
> design sounds better
> what says something about Sennheiser product ,since with that kind of gap
> you do expect see some improvement even in the unit which is targeting for
> eng ( the 500 which is almost the same).
> there is no difference in g-2 quality to feed it line or mike , seems its
> just attenuate the signal.


Você cansou minha belaza outra vez, fui!!!

Gabriel
 >> Stay informed about: G2 Wireless for radio link between camera and sound? 

The 205D is an exception. Its front end is narrow and tracks with the
selected frequency with a microprocessor. As a result it consumes lots of
power and is not powered with 9v batts.
"xort" <ekcine.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> Austin Storms wrote:
> > So as a camera link go with the Lectro 201s and nothing less
>
> Austin
> Excellent post, but I'd like to mention that I have the 201 & 195D's. I
> was in an airport and was getting killed with my 201. I switched to my
> 195D and all the hits went away. The wide front end of the 201 makes it
> inferior to the 195D and the other 200 series Lectros.
>
 >> Stay informed about: G2 Wireless for radio link between camera and sound? 

Hey Folks:

thanks a lot for all the information and opinions.
As I have two lectro 195D, I can use then as camera link (more
reliable, better sound), and use the G2 as wireless mics for the
talent´s, which won´t be so far away. I also can use Tram mikes on
then, what would be an improvement over it´s sound. I´m sure they
should perform well for the talents, and this is an ENG situation, more
then a extremely high quality music doc or something like that.
Any way, if this shoot really comes to happen, I´ll come back here to
tell what happened in the end.

Thanks a lot, and Merry Xmas and Happy New Year for you all.

Tony Muricy
Rio de janeiro
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