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Andy Cohen

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 10:27 pm
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Bill the Butcher tells Amsterdam he is 47 years old, however in an
earlier scene on the docks he tells Boss Tweed his father was killed
in 1814 fighting the British. Since the movie is set in 1863, it means
that Bill was born in 1816, two years AFTER his father died.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 1:24 am
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Andy Cohen wrote:

> Bill the Butcher tells Amsterdam he is 47 years old, however in an
> earlier scene on the docks he tells Boss Tweed his father was killed
> in 1814 fighting the British. Since the movie is set in 1863, it means
> that Bill was born in 1816, two years AFTER his father died.

Mama Cutting's ovum was fertilized in 1814. Baby Billy was born in
1815. Big Billy made that bedside speech to Amsterdam in the winter of
1862/63 when he was still 47.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 1:39 pm
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On 15 Jul 2003 01:24:01 -0700, arnzilla DeleteThis @yahoo.com (Arnzilla) wrote:

>Andy Cohen wrote:
>
>> Bill the Butcher tells Amsterdam he is 47 years old, however in an
>> earlier scene on the docks he tells Boss Tweed his father was killed
>> in 1814 fighting the British. Since the movie is set in 1863, it means
>> that Bill was born in 1816, two years AFTER his father died.
>
That was just one of many fact-checking mistakes. Another glaring
mistake is when Bill refers to the streets which comprise 5 points,
which are not only geospatial incorrect but are referred to by Bill as
Mulberry (not even part of the 5 points intersection), Orange (had
been renamed to Baxter by that time), Cross (renamed to Park at that
time), and Little Water (not even part of the 5 points intersection).
The picture shows 5 streets coming together like like spokes of a
wheel, when in fact 5 points was created when Worth (then Anthony St)
was extended into the 'X' intersection created by Cross and Orange St.
5 points doesn't refer to the streets - rather it refers to the
terminated land in BETWEEN the streets. Furthermore, the triangle
shown as Paradise Square is also geospatially incorrect in its
orientation to the streets of 5 points and the location of the Brewery
as depicted in the opening fight sequence.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2003 1:41 am
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Andy Cohen wrote:

> That was just one of many fact-checking mistakes. Another glaring
> mistake is when Bill refers to the streets which comprise 5 points,
> which are not only geospatial incorrect but are referred to by Bill as
> Mulberry (not even part of the 5 points intersection), Orange (had
> been renamed to Baxter by that time), Cross (renamed to Park at that
> time), and Little Water (not even part of the 5 points intersection).
> The picture shows 5 streets coming together like like spokes of a
> wheel, when in fact 5 points was created when Worth (then Anthony St)
> was extended into the 'X' intersection created by Cross and Orange St.
> 5 points doesn't refer to the streets - rather it refers to the
> terminated land in BETWEEN the streets. Furthermore, the triangle
> shown as Paradise Square is also geospatially incorrect in its
> orientation to the streets of 5 points and the location of the Brewery
> as depicted in the opening fight sequence.

Scorsese discussed the name changes at the 2001 Gotham History
Festival. He said that Bill would still call a street by the same name
his whole life, and that only new arrivals would call it by its new
name. Isn't Avenue of the Americas still referred to as Sixth Avenue?
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 7:15 am
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