Georgia Hale's Book

Constance Kuriyama wrote:
> "Danielle1414" (danielle_blondin@countrywide.com) writes:
> > I would like to ask anyone if they have any opinion on the details
or
> > facts of Georgia's book. I am interested in any word on Chaplin's
> > tennis court on Summit Drive. Georgia mentions encouraging the
building
> > of this, but Lita Grey mentions (or her ghostwriter mentions) the
> > tennis court in her book when she describes the house during her
first
> > year with Chaplin. If Georgia's claims about when she first visited
the
> > house are true, then the visit would have been after Lita was long
> > gone. Any other views on this or any other detail of the book?
>
> According to Robinson, p. 416, it was Georgia who introduced Chaplin
to
> tennis in the late '20s. I think, however, he may be relying on
Georgia for
> this information. There are pictures of Chaplin in tennis garb which
appear
> to date earlier, so I tend to think that he played the game in the
early
> to mid 20s, but became serious about it when Georgia came along.
Perhaps
> he built the tennis courts in the late '20s. Lita's book is quite
unreliable,
> and Georgia's accounts of her relationship with Chaplin are decidedly
> Georgia-centric and often equally unreliable.

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Constance Kuriyama wrote:



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> "Danielle1414" (danielle_blon...@countrywide.com) writes:
> > I would like to ask anyone if they have any opinion on the details
or
> > facts of Georgia's book. I am interested in any word on Chaplin's
> > tennis court on Summit Drive. Georgia mentions encouraging the
building
> > of this, but Lita Grey mentions (or her ghostwriter mentions) the
> > tennis court in her book when she describes the house during her
first
> > year with Chaplin. If Georgia's claims about when she first visited
the
> > house are true, then the visit would have been after Lita was long
> > gone. Any other views on this or any other detail of the book?

> According to Robinson, p. 416, it was Georgia who introduced Chaplin
to
> tennis in the late '20s. I think, however, he may be relying on
Georgia for
> this information. There are pictures of Chaplin in tennis garb which
appear
> to date earlier, so I tend to think that he played the game in the
early
> to mid 20s, but became serious about it when Georgia came along.
Perhaps
> he built the tennis courts in the late '20s. Lita's book is quite
unreliable,
> and Georgia's accounts of her relationship with Chaplin are decidedly
> Georgia-centric and often equally unreliable.

I am aware of Lita's credibility as being minimal, however, since it is
not a
great detail that would have been important or pertinent to the book,
so the fact that she mentioned it in passing without any other motive
or attachment to another detail leads me to believe that it is true.
Most of the excerpts from her book regarding the house seem to be
accurate.

> I'm not sure it matters exactly when he had the tennis courts built.
They were
> certainly there by the late '20s.

> I'm not sure it matters exactly when he had the tennis courts built.
They were
> certainly there by the late '20s.

Apparently it does matter, otherwise I would not have asked the
question.:-)
I'm sure it matters to other people that may have
questions about the validity of certain writers (even though many
already know) and to people like myself that like to get the opinions
of others for my own research and education...naturally!

> Connie K.
> --
> "Our century is inconceivable without its . . . inconclusive mob of
isms."
 >> Stay informed about: Georgia Hale's Book 

Constance Kuriyama wrote:
> "Danielle1414" (danielle_blondin@countrywide.com) writes:
> > I would like to ask anyone if they have any opinion on the details
or
> > facts of Georgia's book. I am interested in any word on Chaplin's
> > tennis court on Summit Drive. Georgia mentions encouraging the
building
> > of this, but Lita Grey mentions (or her ghostwriter mentions) the
> > tennis court in her book when she describes the house during her
first
> > year with Chaplin. If Georgia's claims about when she first visited
the
> > house are true, then the visit would have been after Lita was long
> > gone. Any other views on this or any other detail of the book?
>
> According to Robinson, p. 416, it was Georgia who introduced Chaplin
to
> tennis in the late '20s. I think, however, he may be relying on
Georgia for
> this information. There are pictures of Chaplin in tennis garb which
appear
> to date earlier, so I tend to think that he played the game in the
early
> to mid 20s, but became serious about it when Georgia came along.
Perhaps
> he built the tennis courts in the late '20s. Lita's book is quite
unreliable,
> and Georgia's accounts of her relationship with Chaplin are decidedly
> Georgia-centric and often equally unreliable.

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Constance Kuriyama wrote:



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> "Danielle1414" (danielle_blon...@countrywide.com) writes:
> > I would like to ask anyone if they have any opinion on the details
or
> > facts of Georgia's book. I am interested in any word on Chaplin's
> > tennis court on Summit Drive. Georgia mentions encouraging the
building
> > of this, but Lita Grey mentions (or her ghostwriter mentions) the
> > tennis court in her book when she describes the house during her
first
> > year with Chaplin. If Georgia's claims about when she first visited
the
> > house are true, then the visit would have been after Lita was long
> > gone. Any other views on this or any other detail of the book?

> According to Robinson, p. 416, it was Georgia who introduced Chaplin
to
> tennis in the late '20s. I think, however, he may be relying on
Georgia for
> this information. There are pictures of Chaplin in tennis garb which
appear
> to date earlier, so I tend to think that he played the game in the
early
> to mid 20s, but became serious about it when Georgia came along.
Perhaps
> he built the tennis courts in the late '20s. Lita's book is quite
unreliable,
> and Georgia's accounts of her relationship with Chaplin are decidedly
> Georgia-centric and often equally unreliable.

I am aware of Lita's credibility as being minimal, however, since it is
not a
great detail that would have been important or pertinent to the book,
so the fact that she mentioned it in passing without any other motive
or attachment to another detail leads me to believe that it is true.
Most of the excerpts from her book regarding the house seem to be
accurate.

> I'm not sure it matters exactly when he had the tennis courts built.
They were
> certainly there by the late '20s.

> I'm not sure it matters exactly when he had the tennis courts built.
They were
> certainly there by the late '20s.

Apparently it does matter, otherwise I would not have asked the
question.:-)
I'm sure it matters to other people that may have
questions about the validity of certain writers (even though many
already know) and to people like myself that like to get the opinions
of others for my own research and education...naturally!

> Connie K.
> --
> "Our century is inconceivable without its . . . inconclusive mob of
isms."
 >> Stay informed about: Georgia Hale's Book 

Constance Kuriyama wrote:
> "Danielle1414" (danielle_blondin@countrywide.com) writes:
> > I would like to ask anyone if they have any opinion on the details
or
> > facts of Georgia's book. I am interested in any word on Chaplin's
> > tennis court on Summit Drive. Georgia mentions encouraging the
building
> > of this, but Lita Grey mentions (or her ghostwriter mentions) the
> > tennis court in her book when she describes the house during her
first
> > year with Chaplin. If Georgia's claims about when she first visited
the
> > house are true, then the visit would have been after Lita was long
> > gone. Any other views on this or any other detail of the book?
>
> According to Robinson, p. 416, it was Georgia who introduced Chaplin
to
> tennis in the late '20s. I think, however, he may be relying on
Georgia for
> this information. There are pictures of Chaplin in tennis garb which
appear
> to date earlier, so I tend to think that he played the game in the
early
> to mid 20s, but became serious about it when Georgia came along.
Perhaps
> he built the tennis courts in the late '20s. Lita's book is quite
unreliable,
> and Georgia's accounts of her relationship with Chaplin are decidedly
> Georgia-centric and often equally unreliable.

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Constance Kuriyama wrote:



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> "Danielle1414" (danielle_blon...@countrywide.com) writes:
> > I would like to ask anyone if they have any opinion on the details
or
> > facts of Georgia's book. I am interested in any word on Chaplin's
> > tennis court on Summit Drive. Georgia mentions encouraging the
building
> > of this, but Lita Grey mentions (or her ghostwriter mentions) the
> > tennis court in her book when she describes the house during her
first
> > year with Chaplin. If Georgia's claims about when she first visited
the
> > house are true, then the visit would have been after Lita was long
> > gone. Any other views on this or any other detail of the book?

> According to Robinson, p. 416, it was Georgia who introduced Chaplin
to
> tennis in the late '20s. I think, however, he may be relying on
Georgia for
> this information. There are pictures of Chaplin in tennis garb which
appear
> to date earlier, so I tend to think that he played the game in the
early
> to mid 20s, but became serious about it when Georgia came along.
Perhaps
> he built the tennis courts in the late '20s. Lita's book is quite
unreliable,
> and Georgia's accounts of her relationship with Chaplin are decidedly
> Georgia-centric and often equally unreliable.

I am aware of Lita's credibility as being minimal, however, since it is
not a
great detail that would have been important or pertinent to the book,
so the fact that she mentioned it in passing without any other motive
or attachment to another detail leads me to believe that it is true.
Most of the excerpts from her book regarding the house seem to be
accurate.

> I'm not sure it matters exactly when he had the tennis courts built.
They were
> certainly there by the late '20s.

> I'm not sure it matters exactly when he had the tennis courts built.
They were
> certainly there by the late '20s.

Apparently it does matter, otherwise I would not have asked the
question.:-)
I'm sure it matters to other people that may have
questions about the validity of certain writers (even though many
already know) and to people like myself that like to get the opinions
of others for my own research and education...naturally!

> Connie K.
> --
> "Our century is inconceivable without its . . . inconclusive mob of
isms."
 >> Stay informed about: Georgia Hale's Book 

Constance Kuriyama wrote:
> "Danielle1414" (danielle_blondin@countrywide.com) writes:
> > I would like to ask anyone if they have any opinion on the details
or
> > facts of Georgia's book. I am interested in any word on Chaplin's
> > tennis court on Summit Drive. Georgia mentions encouraging the
building
> > of this, but Lita Grey mentions (or her ghostwriter mentions) the
> > tennis court in her book when she describes the house during her
first
> > year with Chaplin. If Georgia's claims about when she first visited
the
> > house are true, then the visit would have been after Lita was long
> > gone. Any other views on this or any other detail of the book?
>
> According to Robinson, p. 416, it was Georgia who introduced Chaplin
to
> tennis in the late '20s. I think, however, he may be relying on
Georgia for
> this information. There are pictures of Chaplin in tennis garb which
appear
> to date earlier, so I tend to think that he played the game in the
early
> to mid 20s, but became serious about it when Georgia came along.
Perhaps
> he built the tennis courts in the late '20s. Lita's book is quite
unreliable,
> and Georgia's accounts of her relationship with Chaplin are decidedly
> Georgia-centric and often equally unreliable.
I appreciate your reply and any information you were able to relay. I
am aware that Lita's credibility and opinions are less than desirable,
however, since it is not a great detail that would have been important
or pertinent to the book, and since she mentioned it in passing without
any other motive, extension, or attachment to another detail, it leads
me to believe that it is true.
Most of the excerpts from her book regarding the house and miniscule
details seem to be accurate.



>
> I'm not sure it matters exactly when he had the tennis courts built.
They were
> certainly there by the late '20s.

> Connie K.
> --
> "Our century is inconceivable without its . . . inconclusive mob of
isms."
 >> Stay informed about: Georgia Hale's Book 

Constance Kuriyama wrote:
> "Danielle1414" (danielle_blondin@countrywide.com) writes:
> > I would like to ask anyone if they have any opinion on the details
or
> > facts of Georgia's book. I am interested in any word on Chaplin's
> > tennis court on Summit Drive. Georgia mentions encouraging the
building
> > of this, but Lita Grey mentions (or her ghostwriter mentions) the
> > tennis court in her book when she describes the house during her
first
> > year with Chaplin. If Georgia's claims about when she first visited
the
> > house are true, then the visit would have been after Lita was long
> > gone. Any other views on this or any other detail of the book?
>
> According to Robinson, p. 416, it was Georgia who introduced Chaplin
to
> tennis in the late '20s. I think, however, he may be relying on
Georgia for
> this information. There are pictures of Chaplin in tennis garb which
appear
> to date earlier, so I tend to think that he played the game in the
early
> to mid 20s, but became serious about it when Georgia came along.
Perhaps
> he built the tennis courts in the late '20s. Lita's book is quite
unreliable,
> and Georgia's accounts of her relationship with Chaplin are decidedly
> Georgia-centric and often equally unreliable.
I appreciate your reply and any information you were able to relay. I
am aware that Lita's credibility and opinions are less than desirable,
however, since it is not a great detail that would have been important
or pertinent to the book, and since she mentioned it in passing without
any other motive, extension, or attachment to another detail, it leads
me to believe that it is true.
Most of the excerpts from her book regarding the house and miniscule
details seem to be accurate.



>
> I'm not sure it matters exactly when he had the tennis courts built.
They were
> certainly there by the late '20s.

> Connie K.
> --
> "Our century is inconceivable without its . . . inconclusive mob of
isms."
 >> Stay informed about: Georgia Hale's Book 

Constance Kuriyama wrote:
> "Danielle1414" (danielle_blondin@countrywide.com) writes:
> > I would like to ask anyone if they have any opinion on the details
or
> > facts of Georgia's book. I am interested in any word on Chaplin's
> > tennis court on Summit Drive. Georgia mentions encouraging the
building
> > of this, but Lita Grey mentions (or her ghostwriter mentions) the
> > tennis court in her book when she describes the house during her
first
> > year with Chaplin. If Georgia's claims about when she first visited
the
> > house are true, then the visit would have been after Lita was long
> > gone. Any other views on this or any other detail of the book?
>
> According to Robinson, p. 416, it was Georgia who introduced Chaplin
to
> tennis in the late '20s. I think, however, he may be relying on
Georgia for
> this information. There are pictures of Chaplin in tennis garb which
appear
> to date earlier, so I tend to think that he played the game in the
early
> to mid 20s, but became serious about it when Georgia came along.
Perhaps
> he built the tennis courts in the late '20s. Lita's book is quite
unreliable,
> and Georgia's accounts of her relationship with Chaplin are decidedly
> Georgia-centric and often equally unreliable.
I appreciate your reply and any information you were able to relay. I
am aware that Lita's credibility and opinions are less than desirable,
however, since it is not a great detail that would have been important
or pertinent to the book, and since she mentioned it in passing without
any other motive, extension, or attachment to another detail, it leads
me to believe that it is true.
Most of the excerpts from her book regarding the house and miniscule
details seem to be accurate.



>
> I'm not sure it matters exactly when he had the tennis courts built.
They were
> certainly there by the late '20s.

> Connie K.
> --
> "Our century is inconceivable without its . . . inconclusive mob of
isms."
 >> Stay informed about: Georgia Hale's Book 

Constance Kuriyama wrote:
> "Danielle1414" (danielle_blondin@countrywide.com) writes:
> > I would like to ask anyone if they have any opinion on the details
or
> > facts of Georgia's book. I am interested in any word on Chaplin's
> > tennis court on Summit Drive. Georgia mentions encouraging the
building
> > of this, but Lita Grey mentions (or her ghostwriter mentions) the
> > tennis court in her book when she describes the house during her
first
> > year with Chaplin. If Georgia's claims about when she first visited
the
> > house are true, then the visit would have been after Lita was long
> > gone. Any other views on this or any other detail of the book?
>
> According to Robinson, p. 416, it was Georgia who introduced Chaplin
to
> tennis in the late '20s. I think, however, he may be relying on
Georgia for
> this information. There are pictures of Chaplin in tennis garb which
appear
> to date earlier, so I tend to think that he played the game in the
early
> to mid 20s, but became serious about it when Georgia came along.
Perhaps
> he built the tennis courts in the late '20s. Lita's book is quite
unreliable,
> and Georgia's accounts of her relationship with Chaplin are decidedly
> Georgia-centric and often equally unreliable.
I appreciate your reply and any information you were able to relay. I
am aware that Lita's credibility and opinions are less than desirable,
however, since it is not a great detail that would have been important
or pertinent to the book, and since she mentioned it in passing without
any other motive, extension, or attachment to another detail, it leads
me to believe that it is true.
Most of the excerpts from her book regarding the house and miniscule
details seem to be accurate.
> I'm not sure it matters exactly when he had the tennis courts built.
They were
> certainly there by the late '20s.
Actually, it does matter, that is why I asked!:-) I'm sure it matters
to other readers, like me, researching or educating themselves about
which writers credibility to count on, and what details about his life
are true, no matter how miniscule. Again, thank you very much for the
information you provided me above.

> Connie K.
> --
> "Our century is inconceivable without its . . . inconclusive mob of
isms."
 >> Stay informed about: Georgia Hale's Book 

Deborah wrote:
> Wow, Danielle , you sure make up in quantity what you lack in
quality. How
> about posting once?
Why don't you write me back explaining where I lack quality since you
don't have a clue who I am, and I will try to provide an explanation to
appease you.
Wow, I am new to the site and already someone that is not able to
either take criticismm or be understanding to people that are trying to
figure out the process is already attacking. What was that about
quality? Here is some more quantity for you: I am trying to learn how
this site works, as I have not visited an online forum site until
yesterday, so I have been having trouble getting my quote replys to
show everything that I want to say. I am at work and don't have as much
free time as others (nothing personal) to edit and learn everything
that I should and I appologize to the nice people out there that aren't
attacking me. I will definitely make an effort to remedy this as soon
as possible so I will not inconvenience anyone any longer and so I can
talk to some mature people with patience and good humor. Charlie would
be very disappointed in your passing judgement so soon Deborah!
Hey C, you were right about some of the people in here!

> Deborah
>
> "The human race has one really effective weapon, and that is
laughter."
> -Mark Twain
 >> Stay informed about: Georgia Hale's Book 

"Georgia's accounts of her relationship with Chaplin are decidedly
Georgia-centric."

Georgia-centric is a good description, Connie. Every time I see her on
"The Unknown Chaplin" I have to chuckle a little bit. Despite her lousy
book and her eccentric ways, I still like Georgia and her quirky ways.
I just wish she had incorporated a more realistic approach in writing
her book. She had close access to CC (to put it mildly) for years and
yet her book tells you almost nothing about him. What a missed
opportunity.
 >> Stay informed about: Georgia Hale's Book 

"Danielle1414" (danielle_blondin@countrywide.com) writes:
> I would like to ask anyone if they have any opinion on the details or
> facts of Georgia's book. I am interested in any word on Chaplin's
> tennis court on Summit Drive. Georgia mentions encouraging the building
> of this, but Lita Grey mentions (or her ghostwriter mentions) the
> tennis court in her book when she describes the house during her first
> year with Chaplin. If Georgia's claims about when she first visited the
> house are true, then the visit would have been after Lita was long
> gone. Any other views on this or any other detail of the book?

According to Robinson, p. 416, it was Georgia who introduced Chaplin to
tennis in the late '20s. I think, however, he may be relying on Georgia for
this information. There are pictures of Chaplin in tennis garb which appear
to date earlier, so I tend to think that he played the game in the early
to mid 20s, but became serious about it when Georgia came along. Perhaps
he built the tennis courts in the late '20s. Lita's book is quite unreliable,
and Georgia's accounts of her relationship with Chaplin are decidedly
Georgia-centric and often equally unreliable.

I'm not sure it matters exactly when he had the tennis courts built. They were
certainly there by the late '20s.

Connie K.
--
"Our century is inconceivable without its . . . inconclusive mob of isms."
 >> Stay informed about: Georgia Hale's Book 

Wow, Danielle , you sure make up in quantity what you lack in quality. How
about posting once?


Deborah

"The human race has one really effective weapon, and that is laughter."
-Mark Twain
 >> Stay informed about: Georgia Hale's Book 

"Danielle1414" (danielle_blondin@countrywide.com) writes:
> Constance Kuriyama wrote:
>> "Danielle1414" (danielle_blondin@countrywide.com) writes:
>> > I would like to ask anyone if they have any opinion on the details
> or
>> > facts of Georgia's book. I am interested in any word on Chaplin's
>> > tennis court on Summit Drive. Georgia mentions encouraging the
> building
>> > of this, but Lita Grey mentions (or her ghostwriter mentions) the
>> > tennis court in her book when she describes the house during her
> first
>> > year with Chaplin. If Georgia's claims about when she first visited
> the
>> > house are true, then the visit would have been after Lita was long
>> > gone. Any other views on this or any other detail of the book?
>>
>> According to Robinson, p. 416, it was Georgia who introduced Chaplin
> to
>> tennis in the late '20s. I think, however, he may be relying on
> Georgia for
>> this information. There are pictures of Chaplin in tennis garb which
> appear
>> to date earlier, so I tend to think that he played the game in the
> early
>> to mid 20s, but became serious about it when Georgia came along.
> Perhaps
>> he built the tennis courts in the late '20s. Lita's book is quite
> unreliable,
>> and Georgia's accounts of her relationship with Chaplin are decidedly
>> Georgia-centric and often equally unreliable.
> I am aware of Lita's credibility as being minimal, however, it is not a
> great detail that would have been important or pertinent to the book,
> so the fact that she mentioned it in passing without any other motive
> or attachment to another detail leads me to believe that it is true.
> Most of the excerpts from her book regarding the house seem to be
> accurate.

You're right that there wouldn't be an ulterior motive for referring
to it. Georgia is more likely to have had a reason to claim that she
was behind its being added.

The problem is that Cooper, the ghost writer, as Lita put it, "made
up a lot," and he was presumably aware that the house had tennis
courts when he wrote the book, so in developing his narrative he
referred to the tennis courts.

Either explanation is possible.


>
>> I'm not sure it matters exactly when he had the tennis courts built.
> They were
>> certainly there by the late '20s.
>> Apparently it does matter, otherwise I would not have asked the
> question.:-) I'm sure it matters to other people that may have
> questions about the validity of certain writers (even though many
> already know) and to people like myself that like to get the opinions
> of others for my own research and education...naturally!

Indeed it matters to you, and it might matter to someone who was trying
to decide if Georgia's claim was true or not, which seems to be the
drift of your question.

I don't think Georgia's story that Charlie visited her right before he
married Oona is very credible. What do you think?

Connie K.





> people >
>
> Connie K.
>> --
>> "Our century is inconceivable without its . . . inconclusive mob of
> isms."
>

--
"Our century is inconceivable without its . . . inconclusive mob of isms."
 >> Stay informed about: Georgia Hale's Book 

Deborah (dzubeg@aol.com) writes:
> Wow, Danielle , you sure make up in quantity what you lack in quality. How
> about posting once?
>
>
> Deborah
>
> "The human race has one really effective weapon, and that is laughter."
> -Mark Twain

I think Danielle is a newbie who is having problems with her newsreader.
Let's give her a little time to figure out how to use it.

I tried a chat group once and couldn't figure out how it worked. It's
very embarrassing.

Connie K.
--
"Our century is inconceivable without its . . . inconclusive mob of isms."
 >> Stay informed about: Georgia Hale's Book