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Jeff Duncanson

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:03 pm
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This is one of those silly what-if games.

The idea is to switch Cary Grant and James Stewart in their Hitchcock
films. There are some that you just can't imagine (Grant in Vertigo?)
Some that feel weird at first but are fascinating to consider (Stewart
in Suspicion or Notorious), and some that might have been pretty good
the other way.(Stewart in N x NW, Grant in The Man Who Knew Too Much)

Your thoughts?

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Dave in Toronto

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:10 pm
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On Oct 6, 12:03 am, Jeff Duncanson <jeffduncan....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> This is one of those silly what-if games.
>
> The idea is to switch Cary Grant and James Stewart in their Hitchcock
> films. There are some that you just can't imagine (Grant in Vertigo?)
> Some that feel weird at first but are fascinating to consider (Stewart
> in Suspicion or Notorious), and some that might have been pretty good
> the other way.(Stewart in N x NW, Grant in The Man Who Knew Too Much)
>
> Your thoughts?


Don't think it'd work it most cases. Completely different styles.

Often wondered about the mental gymnastics Hitchcock had to go through
when he was told that he couldn't have his first choice for the Rupert
Cadell character in _ROPE_ . Hitchcock wanted Charles Laughton. The
studio said he had to use James Stewart!

Dave in Toronto

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Howard Brazee

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:52 am
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On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 21:03:18 -0700, Jeff Duncanson
<jeffduncanson.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:

>The idea is to switch Cary Grant and James Stewart in their Hitchcock
>films. There are some that you just can't imagine (Grant in Vertigo?)

How about Grant in _Rear Window_?
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El Klauso

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:40 pm
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The concept sure doesn't work well in "The Philadelphia Story."

Urgh...
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 1:45 pm
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"Howard Brazee" <howard.RemoveThis@brazee.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 21:03:18 -0700, Jeff Duncanson
> <jeffduncanson.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>The idea is to switch Cary Grant and James Stewart in their Hitchcock
>>films. There are some that you just can't imagine (Grant in Vertigo?)
>
> How about Grant in _Rear Window_?

Stewart wins. Grant at his best played Thornhill in "North by Northwest".
Almost too suave to get dust on his suit.
Stewart was far more capable emotionally, and I think more effective
with dialogue.

Stone me.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:41 pm
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On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 17:34:54 +0100, "Stone me" <stranger.DeleteThis@corrall.msx>
wrote:

>>>The idea is to switch Cary Grant and James Stewart in their Hitchcock
>>>films. There are some that you just can't imagine (Grant in Vertigo?)
>>
>> How about Grant in _Rear Window_?
>
>Stewart wins. Grant at his best played Thornhill in "North by Northwest".
>Almost too suave to get dust on his suit.
>Stewart was far more capable emotionally, and I think more effective
>with dialogue.

I picked that as a "not work" example. Someone else picked trading
them in _Philadelphia Story_ as a "not work".
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Dave in Toronto

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:49 pm
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On Oct 6, 9:41 pm, Howard Brazee <how... DeleteThis @brazee.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 17:34:54 +0100, "Stone me" <stran... DeleteThis @corrall.msx>
> wrote:
>
> >>>The idea is to switch Cary Grant and James Stewart in their Hitchcock
> >>>films. There are some that you just can't imagine (Grant in Vertigo?)
>
> >> How about Grant in _Rear Window_?
>
> >Stewart wins. Grant at his best played Thornhill in "North by Northwest".
> >Almost too suave to get dust on his suit.
> >Stewart was far more capable emotionally, and I think more effective
> >with dialogue.
>
> I picked that as a "not work" example. Someone else picked trading
> them in _Philadelphia Story_ as a "not work".



I really can't see any of the switcheroos working - Stewart in _TO
CATCH A THIEF_? I don't think so.

Dave in Toronto
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:45 am
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The quote from Hitch was "Grant for action, Stewart for reaction."
But he did try to get Stewart for "North by Northwest"; he reckoned
that Stewart's name on the marque was worth more--he named an exact
figure--in ticket sales, particularly in the midwest. It would have
been a different movie, more like "Saboteur"; with Stewart more of a
wronged innocent and less of a heel. That "because of men like you"
line wouldn't have worked.
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