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Shush

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 1:06 pm
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Wake up, newsgroupers!

What would you call Chaplin's last great piece of work? Not just a
nice job, but a really great creative accomplishment?

For me, it'd be "Terry's Theme" from LIMELIGHT, his best piece of
music in my opinion.

But I'd love to know what the rest of you think. There are no wrong
answers.




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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 1:47 pm
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Shush wrote:
> Wake up, newsgroupers!
>
> What would you call Chaplin's last great piece of work? Not just a
> nice job, but a really great creative accomplishment?
>
> For me, it'd be "Terry's Theme" from LIMELIGHT, his best piece of
> music in my opinion.
>
> But I'd love to know what the rest of you think. There are no
wrong
> answers.
>
>
>
>
> --Shush--

Hi shush,

I'd have to say I think the few seconds of "seasick" in Countess
qualifies.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 3:29 pm
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On 4 May 2005 13:06:10 -0700, "Shush" <shushfilmseznospam.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wake up, newsgroupers!
>
> What would you call Chaplin's last great piece of work? Not just a
>nice job, but a really great creative accomplishment?
>
> For me, it'd be "Terry's Theme" from LIMELIGHT, his best piece of
>music in my opinion.
>
> But I'd love to know what the rest of you think. There are no wrong
>answers.
>
>
>
>
>--Shush--

The first hundred or so pages of MY AUTOBIOGRAPHY.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 11:17 pm
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 10:39 pm
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(rfcsac627n@aol.com) writes:
> His early 70s score for THE KID.

That would be my call. No singles hit came out of it, but a fantastic score.

And speaking of scores, has anyone ever noticed what he does with music in
_Modern Times_ when Paulette tries to get Henry Bergman to hire Charlie?
It strikes me that there's nothing like it anywhere else--but maybe I just
haven't seen it done anywhere else.

Connie K.
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"To hell with the pillow in the background. It's a good scene, and that's
more important." Chaplin, Interview with Richard Meryman, 1966.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 9:44 am
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I certainly have. It's one of the few instances in Chaplin's scores where
"mickey mousing" occurs; ie. the close mimicry in music of the action on screen.

As I wrote in an article for the Chaplin Courrier (fall 2001) on the music of
Modern Times, "Charlie's job interview music is very clever as it mimics the
dialog and characters in the scene. The low strings and winds represent
Bergman's manager and the high strings and flutes back the Gamin's lines as the
oboe haltingly plays Charlie's hesitant replies."

Phil


On 5 May 2005 22:39:38 GMT, do481.RemoveThis@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Constance Kuriyama)
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> (rfcsac627n@aol.com) writes:
>> His early 70s score for THE KID.
>
>That would be my call. No singles hit came out of it, but a fantastic score.
>
>And speaking of scores, has anyone ever noticed what he does with music in
>_Modern Times_ when Paulette tries to get Henry Bergman to hire Charlie?
>It strikes me that there's nothing like it anywhere else--but maybe I just
>haven't seen it done anywhere else.
>
>Connie K.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 6:08 pm
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Shush wrote:

> Wake up, newsgroupers!

Who? What? Wuzizzat?

> What would you call Chaplin's last great piece
> of work? Not just a nice job, but a really great
> creative accomplishment?

> For me, it'd be "Terry's Theme" from LIMELIGHT,
> his best piece of music in my opinion.

Unfortunately, it already existed in the 1920s -- at
least, according to accounts I've heard (either Lita
or Charlie Jr., I forget which).

> But I'd love to know what the rest of you think.
> There are no wrong answers.

There are a lot of potential answers to that question.

Last indisputably great film? "Modern Times."

Last great script? "Monsieur Verdoux."

Last great score? "A Countess From Hong Kong" or
"The Kid."

Possibly his "Autobiography." Or at least the first half
of it, anyway.

Tom Moran
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 1:04 am
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Phil P. () writes:
> I certainly have. It's one of the few instances in Chaplin's scores where
> "mickey mousing" occurs; ie. the close mimicry in music of the action on screen.
>
> As I wrote in an article for the Chaplin Courrier (fall 2001) on the music of
> Modern Times, "Charlie's job interview music is very clever as it mimics the
> dialog and characters in the scene. The low strings and winds represent
> Bergman's manager and the high strings and flutes back the Gamin's lines as the
> oboe haltingly plays Charlie's hesitant replies."
>
> Phil

I thought it would go under the general category of Mickey Mousing, but I
can't recall seeing that done with voices anywhere else. It's similar to
using a kazoo for the voices of the speakers in _City Lights_, but more
interesting, since there's no actual speech involved at all.

Connie K.




> On 5 May 2005 22:39:38 GMT, do481.TakeThisOut@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Constance Kuriyama)
> wrote:
>
>>
>> (rfcsac627n@aol.com) writes:
>>> His early 70s score for THE KID.
>>
>>That would be my call. No singles hit came out of it, but a fantastic score.
>>
>>And speaking of scores, has anyone ever noticed what he does with music in
>>_Modern Times_ when Paulette tries to get Henry Bergman to hire Charlie?
>>It strikes me that there's nothing like it anywhere else--but maybe I just
>>haven't seen it done anywhere else.
>>
>>Connie K.
>

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 10:13 am
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"Candace" (ulysses@mscomm.com) writes:
> Modern Times.

I don't know about last great, but in no way inferior to his best work.

Connie K.
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