HBO Films Seem To Exist in a No-Man's Land

Harkness wrote:
>
> ????
>
> Hoop Dreams was a theatrical release. (And of course, Roger is a
> professional Chicagoan, so of course he championed Hoop Dreams.)
>
> And I always see reviews of the HBO films from the TV reviewers.

Did you review Warm Springs? I'd say it was the holiest film of this
decade, but vos rigoles anciens m'avez suffit.
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mutefan.RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote:
> This past week I watched The Life and Death of Peter Sellers and the
> stellar, really magnificent Warm Springs. Both were superb biopics
> (although iterating and reiterating a troubled 60's film icon's
> misogyny made me wonder why Sellers was chosen as a subject in the
> first place).
>
> I searched for reviews of Warm Springs on television as well as on
> movie sites. I found exactly two: one in The Hollywood Reporter, and
> one by Qwickfilms (?), who stated the obvious: Warm Springs should have
> been released as a major motion picture.
>
> HBO films are invariably a cut above anything I'll see in a movie
> theater and yet seem to exist in a no-man's land, where television and
> movie critics both keep a distance from them. There's a lot of "word
> of mouth" and of course Golden Globes, but it's too bad no one from the
> film community considers them film enough to review.
>
> I thought Ebert and Siskel began to broke this trend with Hoop Dreams,
> but apparently the trend didn't catch on.

I thought the Sellers biopic was terrific... but, iirc, it didn't occur
to me that it should've been in theaters. Admittedly, I find the
distinction hard to verbalize... (maybe something to do with a "night
out" event...) but I know it when I see it... (Same with, e.g., ANGELS
IN AMERICA, for me.)

And, I'd forgotten about WARM SPRINGS, and will take immediate
corrective action...

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moviePig wrote:
>
> And, I'd forgotten about WARM SPRINGS, and will take immediate
> corrective action...

Yeah, you really should. Hark I Hear the Canons Roar isn't correct
when he calls it a handicap inspirational. It's a mini-course in what
made the guy who led us through the Great Depression the *Man*," an
ironic Clintonesque love story, an unbelievably moving portrait of a
spoiled aristocrat's redemption, an equally moving insight into how he
became someone dirt-poor "Negroes" and sharecroppers regarded as their
friend; and yeah, a handicap inspirational bar none, that never goes
for the saccharine and that ends with the preternatural truth that this
middle-aged invalid would become the man to bring us through the War
that Ends All Wars. If you're anywhere between 40 and 65, I'd say,
this movie's a religious experience, because it's all true.

An older person who watched with me looked at it the way people look
when they are in church. Jesus, when you hear the last--extended--line
about there Being Nothing to Fear But...

Shiver-quality good.
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On 3 Sep 2006 03:47:31 -0700, mutefan.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com wrote:


>I searched for reviews of Warm Springs on television as well as on
>movie sites. I found exactly two: one in The Hollywood Reporter, and
>one by Qwickfilms (?), who stated the obvious: Warm Springs should have
>been released as a major motion picture.
>

I've watched my DVD of Warm Springs about 20 times. Kenneth Branagh is
incredible, as usual, but the whole cast is perfection.

Chris
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<mutefan.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> moviePig wrote:
>>
>> And, I'd forgotten about WARM SPRINGS, and will take immediate
>> corrective action...
>
> Yeah, you really should. Hark I Hear the Canons Roar isn't correct
> when he calls it a handicap inspirational. It's a mini-course in what
> made the guy who led us through the Great Depression the *Man*," an
> ironic Clintonesque love story, an unbelievably moving portrait of a
> spoiled aristocrat's redemption, an equally moving insight into how he
> became someone dirt-poor "Negroes" and sharecroppers regarded as their
> friend; and yeah, a handicap inspirational bar none, that never goes
> for the saccharine and that ends with the preternatural truth that this
> middle-aged invalid would become the man to bring us through the War
> that Ends All Wars. If you're anywhere between 40 and 65, I'd say,
> this movie's a religious experience, because it's all true.
>
> An older person who watched with me looked at it the way people look
> when they are in church. Jesus, when you hear the last--extended--line
> about there Being Nothing to Fear But...
>
> Shiver-quality good.

All the characters in Warm Springs are wonderfully well cast, and the
changes that appear in FDR's personality are lovely to watch. a gem of a
film. (and Tim Blake Nelson will break your heart).
>
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mack wrote:
>
> All the characters in Warm Springs are wonderfully well cast, and the
> changes that appear in FDR's personality are lovely to watch. a gem of a
> film. (and Tim Blake Nelson will break your heart).

Oh my God, I didn't think anyone else had the same reaction. I've
never seen this actor in any film or on television, and right before I
was going to comment on how much I liked his character, a "senior" who
grew up in the Roosevelt years said, "That young man is so likeable,
isn't he?"

Obviously I can't say enough good things about this production.
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mutefan RemoveThis @yahoo.com wrote:

> moviePig wrote:
>
>>And, I'd forgotten about WARM SPRINGS, and will take immediate
>>corrective action...
>
>
> Yeah, you really should. Hark I Hear the Canons Roar isn't correct
> when he calls it a handicap inspirational.


I'd like to get a translation of this last sentence if possible. I
might point out that "canons" only "roar" if recited extremely loudly.
Does this have anything to do with somebody getting their "just desert"?
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trotsky wrote:

> mutefan.DeleteThis@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> moviePig wrote:
>>
>>> And, I'd forgotten about WARM SPRINGS, and will take immediate
>>> corrective action...
>>
>> Yeah, you really should. Hark I Hear the Canons Roar isn't correct
>> when he calls it a handicap inspirational.
>
> I'd like to get a translation of this last sentence if possible. I
> might point out that "canons" only "roar" if recited extremely loudly.

....Causing the actor onstage to shout "Whatdahell was THAT??"

Derek Janssen (remember, the Classic Jokes are a valuable part of our
cultural IQ)
ejanss.DeleteThis@comcast.net
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Derek Janssen wrote:

> trotsky wrote:
>
>> mutefan.RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> moviePig wrote:
>>>
>>>> And, I'd forgotten about WARM SPRINGS, and will take immediate
>>>> corrective action...
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, you really should. Hark I Hear the Canons Roar isn't correct
>>> when he calls it a handicap inspirational.
>>
>>
>> I'd like to get a translation of this last sentence if possible. I
>> might point out that "canons" only "roar" if recited extremely loudly.
>
>
> ...Causing the actor onstage to shout "Whatdahell was THAT??"


If you're the Pope would it be a good thing or a bad thing if you're
"canon fodder"?
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>
> If you're the Pope would it be a good thing or a bad thing if you're
> "canon fodder"?

Hey, Trotsky, you almost--almost--made this wild-eyed ex-Catholic
laugh. But I kinda like Pope Ben. He's the old type of hard-ass cold
bastard that taught me to trust God so much out of sheer terror in my
misspent youth. Never underestimate the power of terror to make you
trust in a God of Love.

But back on topic: Do you watch any movies at all anymore, on t.v. or
in the theater? I'm getting tired of you, dude. If you had a stroke,
it brought out the worst in you; and since I visit stroke victims
nearly every week, and know strokes aren't the end of the world, I
guess I'll just be Christian enough to come out and say You've
tormented this group enough, and if it's the Big A you got brewing in
those synapses of yours, well, we all get what we deserve in the end,
don't we.
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Derek Janssen wrote:
> mutefan.RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>If you're the Pope would it be a good thing or a bad thing if you're
> >>"canon fodder"?
> >
> >
> > Hey, Trotsky, you almost--almost--made this wild-eyed ex-Catholic
> > laugh. But I kinda like Pope Ben. He's the old type of hard-ass cold
> > bastard that taught me to trust God so much out of sheer terror in my
> > misspent youth. Never underestimate the power of terror to make you
> > trust in a God of Love.
>
> (Er...I THINK he was just doing a dopey pun on the spelling mistake,
> because that was all he had for the conversation, mute. Down, boy.)
>
> (sometimes a clueless spelling-troll is JUST a a clueless
> spelling troll)

Well, it's a least a double pun to call the Pope the Canon Fodder...

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mutefan.DeleteThis@yahoo.com wrote:
>>If you're the Pope would it be a good thing or a bad thing if you're
>>"canon fodder"?
>
>
> Hey, Trotsky, you almost--almost--made this wild-eyed ex-Catholic
> laugh. But I kinda like Pope Ben. He's the old type of hard-ass cold
> bastard that taught me to trust God so much out of sheer terror in my
> misspent youth. Never underestimate the power of terror to make you
> trust in a God of Love.

(Er...I THINK he was just doing a dopey pun on the spelling mistake,
because that was all he had for the conversation, mute. Down, boy.)

Derek Janssen (sometimes a clueless spelling-troll is JUST a a clueless
spelling troll)
ejanss.DeleteThis@comcast.net
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moviePig wrote:
>
> Well, it's a least a double pun to call the Pope the Canon Fodder...

Yeah, you're right! (I think I detect serious thread drift here...)
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