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Brad Harper

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:51 am
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I am in the process of wiring a remote roll cable from a Cooper 208 to a
Portadat. I am not certain if I want to wire this for record/stop or
record/pause. My last remote roll was record/stop only, but I am considering
using the pause instead. The HHb seems to be able to go into record mode
quicker from pause than stop, but after about two minuets it will time out
and go into stop mode anyway. Are there any advantages or disadvantages to
either method? Will using the pause mode have a more detrimental effect on
head life?

I would also like to know if anyone is using Apogee (Mini-Me) converters to
feed DAT recorders. I have been considering this option for awhile. I
believe the addition of a high quality Apogee DAC would really enhance the
sound quality of a DAT recording.

Brad Harper

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Eric Toline

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:51 am
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HHb Portadat remote functions and DAC

Group: rec.arts.movies.production.sound Date: Wed, Feb 25, 2004, 3:51am
(EST+5) From: bradharper.DeleteThis@comcast.net (Brad Harper)
I am in the process of wiring a remote roll cable from a Cooper 208 to a
Portadat. I am not certain if I want to wire this for record/stop or
record/pause. My last remote roll was record/stop only, but I am
considering using the pause instead. The HHb seems to be able to go into
record mode quicker from pause than stop, but after about two minuets it
will time out and go into stop mode anyway. Are there any advantages or
disadvantages to either method?
Will using the pause mode have a more detrimental effect on head life?
Brad Harper <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

No. When the P-Dat is in pause the tape is lifted from the spinning
heads. Using record/pause saves you about 8 seconds over record/stop.

Why not wire up both the pause & stop functions along with the record
function.

As long as you've got your soldering iron out you might as well include
play, rewind, fast forward, ID seek back and ID seek forward.

Better yet just buy a full function P-Dat remote from me.

Eric

"RAMPS @ NAB: 4/20/04: Napoleons Bar, Paris Hotel"

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G. John Garrett, CAS

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:51 am
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Brad Harper wrote:

> I am in the process of wiring a remote roll cable from a Cooper 208 to a
> Portadat. I am not certain if I want to wire this for record/stop or
> record/pause. My last remote roll was record/stop only, but I am considering
> using the pause instead. The HHb seems to be able to go into record mode
> quicker from pause than stop, but after about two minuets it will time out
> and go into stop mode anyway. Are there any advantages or disadvantages to
> either method? Will using the pause mode have a more detrimental effect on
> head life?
>

I've always avoided rec/pause with my HHB to keep head wear down; I imagine that
the heads are spinning and tape path engaged this way. I've heard of guys
using rec/pause forever and claiming not to have a problem. I've also never had
either of my HHB recorders in the shop for repairs. Talk to Eric about remotes,
too.
> I would also like to know if anyone is using Apogee (Mini-Me) converters to
> feed DAT recorders. I have been considering this option for awhile. I
> believe the addition of a high quality Apogee DAC would really enhance the
> sound quality of a DAT recording.

Are you sure you don't mean ADC, not DAC? I have an Apogee AD500 and an AD1000
[with mic pres and 12V operation] and have used them on and off with the HHB and
generally found myself very happy with the results. I think the HHB A/D
converters are pretty good, though.


John
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Stacy Brownrigg, CAS

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 2:23 pm
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"Brad Harper" <bradharper.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<jZU_b.55531$4o.74291@attbi_s52>...
> I am in the process of wiring a remote roll cable from a Cooper 208 to a
> Portadat. I am not certain if I want to wire this for record/stop or
> record/pause. My last remote roll was record/stop only, but I am considering
> using the pause instead. The HHb seems to be able to go into record mode
> quicker from pause than stop, but after about two minuets it will time out
> and go into stop mode anyway. Are there any advantages or disadvantages to
> either method? Will using the pause mode have a more detrimental effect on
> head life?
>
> Brad Harper

Some will argue that the wear and tear on the threading mechanism is
worse than the the head wear. The HHb will certainly engage in
recording a lot faster from the pause mode vs. the stop mode.

Stacy Brownrigg, CAS
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Brad Harper

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:27 pm
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I should have said ADC instead of DAC. It was a long work day.

Eric,
I am using the switch on the Cooper 208 which is a two position switch so I
can only use record and pause/stop.


As far as the ADC goes I can get the Cooper ADC installed for around
$1500.00 which may be the best solution or I al looking into the Apogee
Mini-Me which I can get for around $1100. I know all the Apogee stuff is
great, but the Cooper is a built in four channel ADC that I believe will
have less battery consumption. I just don't know if there are any
significant improvements over the HHb converters to warrant this additional
expense.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:33 pm
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I have been told that DAT tape has little effect on head life. Most DAT
recorders suffer head damage from the use of dry head cleaners not from
actual use. Therefore, I do not think the record/pause mode will have any
greater consequence on head life but will have a quicker response time.

Brad
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