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On Feb 19, 12:05 pm, Invid Fan <i....DeleteThis@localnet.com> wrote:
> Ah, so you're for flag burning too!

Actually I am, in principle. Flag burning is one of the most
basic, obvious forms of political expression, and should not
be banned, except with the obvious restriction that one
may not destroy the property of others.

Normally I wouldn't dream of burning an American
flag, but once I'm told that I may not do so, I hope
I'll have the courage to find one, buy one, or make one,
and burn it in public.
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Let me guess. You think Carrot Top and Gallagher are cutting edge humor.

"Calvin" <crice5.RemoveThis@windstream.net> wrote in message
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> Not bad for a first show. Better than most SNL's of the last
> 25 years. Very promising, and it demonstrates the wealth
> of more material SNL would have had if it cared about balance.
> Not that HHNH is more balanced than SNL. It isn't. It
> leans the other way, which fills a gap that has been
> neglected ever since That Was the Week That Was (TW3).
>
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On Feb 19, 3:32 pm, "Trey Harlow" <thar... RemoveThis @socal.rr.com> wrote:
> Let me guess. You think Carrot Top and Gallagher are cutting edge humor.

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On Feb 19, 11:24�am, "Calvin" <cri... RemoveThis @windstream.net> wrote:
> On Feb 19, 10:21 am, lug... RemoveThis @NOSPAMhotmail.com (lugnut) wrote:
>
> > I think this thing'll be gone within months.  Balance or no balance,
> > the problem with what I saw of it last night wasn't the political
> > agenda, it was that there wasn't a laugh to be found, unless just the
> > mere concept of anyone poking fun at the left is hilarious to you.  Oh
> > hey, Rush Limbaugh's the President!  And he starts his state of the
> > union address just like he starts his radio show!  Ha ha!
> > Still, it's just one show, so it's hard to make a judgment
> > overall...but unless the producers/writers realize what makes stuff
> > like The Daily Show work is the writing and not just shots at "the
> > right," I don't see this going anywhere.
>
> You may be right.  Experiments often fail.  But one thing is
> clear, you want it to fail before it even makes some adjustments
> and has a chance to succeed.
>
> There were plenty of amusing gags, by the way.  You
> lefties are so afraid of the right doing to the left the things
> that the left does to the right incessently.  You claim to love
> diversity, but the only kind of diversity that really matters,
> diversity of political viewpoints, you can't stomach for a moment.

Really, Calvin. If CNN decided to run a comedy show that spent half
hour bashing the right you'd be having fits. Fox is a news channel.
Okay, it's a propaganda party hack wing of the administration, but for
the sake of the argument, let's call it a news channel, and news
channels have no business doing comedy shows. The Daily Show And
Colbert aren't on CNN. They're on a comedy channel.
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On Feb 19, 5:16 pm, "nick" <nickmacpherso....DeleteThis@AOL.com> wrote:
> Really, Calvin. If CNN decided to run a comedy show that spent half
> hour bashing the right you'd be having fits. Fox is a news channel.
> Okay, it's a .............................., but for
> the sake of the argument, let's call it a news channel, and news
> channels have no business doing comedy shows. The Daily Show And
> Colbert aren't on CNN. They're on a comedy channel.

I accept your point, except for the part that I bleeped out,
but it never would have occurred to me to object to a
news channel having a politically oriented comedy show.
Saturday Night Live has become just as tiresome in its
relentless right-bashing on NBC as it would be on MSNBC.
However, others might take your objection seriously, and I
will take them seriously if they are politically neutral (which
disqualifies most of the big names in this forum).

Chris Matthews blasts the right with hate every day on MSNBC.
I don't see that blasting the right with humor on MSNBC or CNN
should be thought to be any more objectionable.
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to nm:

I think you're forgetting Keith Olbermann on MSNBC.
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On 18 Feb 2007 19:38:03 -0800, "Calvin" <crice5 DeleteThis @windstream.net> wrote:

>Not bad for a first show. Better than most SNL's of the last
>25 years. Very promising, and it demonstrates the wealth
>of more material SNL would have had if it cared about balance.
>Not that HHNH is more balanced than SNL. It isn't. It
>leans the other way, which fills a gap that has been
>neglected ever since That Was the Week That Was (TW3).
>

I think this thing'll be gone within months. Balance or no balance,
the problem with what I saw of it last night wasn't the political
agenda, it was that there wasn't a laugh to be found, unless just the
mere concept of anyone poking fun at the left is hilarious to you. Oh
hey, Rush Limbaugh's the President! And he starts his state of the
union address just like he starts his radio show! Ha ha!

Still, it's just one show, so it's hard to make a judgment
overall...but unless the producers/writers realize what makes stuff
like The Daily Show work is the writing and not just shots at "the
right," I don't see this going anywhere.

-lugnut
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On Feb 19, 8:11 pm, Bill Anderson <billanderson....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Calvin wrote:
> (which
> > disqualifies most of the big names in this forum).
> Just out of curiosity, who are these "big names" and what makes them so?
> Bill Anderson
> I am the Mighty Favog

I'm dodging your question because I'm tired of speaking
for the right, defending conservatism, fighting right and
left battles, being political on usenet. If you catch me
being political again, remind me that I dodged your
question.
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nick wrote:
>
> What The Half Hour News Hour shows really is how embattled the right,
> or at least Fox News, feels about Olberman, Colbert and Jon Stewart.

Call it Michael Moore Syndrome--
When the Right feels "embattled", they don't pick on the Message, they
pick on the Messeng-ER, and consider *him* sole incarnation of evil on
this earth:

"It's all that Jon Stewart's fault!...Well, we'll show him!--TWO can
play this <quote-fingers> 'Daily Show' game!"

Derek Janssen
ejanss DeleteThis @comcast.net
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Calvin wrote:
(which
> disqualifies most of the big names in this forum).
>

Just out of curiosity, who are these "big names" and what makes them so?

--
Bill Anderson

I am the Mighty Favog
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In article <1171856283.919481.230490 DeleteThis @l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Calvin <crice5 DeleteThis @windstream.net> wrote:
>Not bad for a first show.

Why did you post this here, when this is a TV show, not a movie? B-(

- Juan F. Lara
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nick wrote:
> On Feb 19, 11:24�am, "Calvin" <cri....DeleteThis@windstream.net> wrote:
>
>>On Feb 19, 10:21 am, lug....DeleteThis@NOSPAMhotmail.com (lugnut) wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I think this thing'll be gone within months. �Balance or no balance,
>>>the problem with what I saw of it last night wasn't the political
>>>agenda, it was that there wasn't a laugh to be found, unless just the
>>>mere concept of anyone poking fun at the left is hilarious to you. �Oh
>>>hey, Rush Limbaugh's the President! �And he starts his state of the
>>>union address just like he starts his radio show! �Ha ha!
>>>Still, it's just one show, so it's hard to make a judgment
>>>overall...but unless the producers/writers realize what makes stuff
>>>like The Daily Show work is the writing and not just shots at "the
>>>right," I don't see this going anywhere.
>>
>>You may be right. �Experiments often fail. �But one thing is
>>clear, you want it to fail before it even makes some adjustments
>>and has a chance to succeed.
>>
>>There were plenty of amusing gags, by the way. �You
>>lefties are so afraid of the right doing to the left the things
>>that the left does to the right incessently. �You claim to love
>>diversity, but the only kind of diversity that really matters,
>>diversity of political viewpoints, you can't stomach for a moment.
>
>
> Really, Calvin. If CNN decided to run a comedy show that spent half
> hour bashing the right you'd be having fits. Fox is a news channel.
> Okay, it's a propaganda party hack wing of the administration, but for
> the sake of the argument, let's call it a news channel, and news
> channels have no business doing comedy shows. The Daily Show And
> Colbert aren't on CNN. They're on a comedy channel.


I disagree with your basic premise here. What this does is show some
self awareness on Fox's part. They seem to know they're a joke already,
so why not try an actual comedy show?
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Calvin wrote:

> On Feb 19, 5:16 pm, "nick" <nickmacpherso... RemoveThis @AOL.com> wrote:
>
>>Really, Calvin. If CNN decided to run a comedy show that spent half
>>hour bashing the right you'd be having fits. Fox is a news channel.
>>Okay, it's a .............................., but for
>>the sake of the argument, let's call it a news channel, and news
>>channels have no business doing comedy shows. The Daily Show And
>>Colbert aren't on CNN. They're on a comedy channel.
>
>
> I accept your point, except for the part that I bleeped out,
> but it never would have occurred to me to object to a
> news channel having a politically oriented comedy show.
> Saturday Night Live has become just as tiresome in its
> relentless right-bashing on NBC as it would be on MSNBC.
> However, others might take your objection seriously, and I
> will take them seriously if they are politically neutral (which
> disqualifies most of the big names in this forum).
>
> Chris Matthews blasts the right with hate every day on MSNBC.
> I don't see that blasting the right with humor on MSNBC or CNN
> should be thought to be any more objectionable.

Your logic escapes me, Calvin. If Matthews 'bashes the right', whom
does Darrell Hammond bash when he's lampooning Matthews?
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