Hindu Triad: Creator, Protector, Destroyer

JPM III wrote:
> threeseas wrote in
> news:PFXgd.13439$KJ6.9264@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:
>
>>JPM III wrote:
>>
>>>*poke*
>>>
>>>*prod*
>>>
>>>Three principal Hindu deities are Brahma (creator), Vishnu
>>>(protector), and Shiva (destroyer). Without any further
>>>implications, I was comparing their roles in Hinduism to various
>>>roles in the Matrix, and it left me unsure about one thing: who is
>>>the destroyer in the Matrix? It seems quite reasonable that the
>>>Architect would compare best to
>>>Brahma, and the Oracle would compare best to Vishnu. But who would
>>>compare to Shiva? Smith? The Merovingian? Neo? Deus Ex Machina? I
>>>could make arguments for why each of these could play the role of
>>>destroyer in this three-pronged analogy, depending on how the
>>>organizational structure of the machines' collective intelligence.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>The Matrix was modeled, inspired, etc... from real life events or
>>happenings, just like the creation of religions and belief systems
>>(astrology, I ching, etc..)b along with injecting distrotions and
>>distraction so as to deal with intellectual property issues...
>
>
> I Ching isn't a system, it's a book -- the "Book of Changes". It's one of
> the main works of Confucianism.
>
> And... we've covered the rest of this email countless times. We know all the
> reasons why we should and shouldn't suggest different parallels between the
> Matrix and other stuff. But this is a discussion group... so I suggested a
> discussion.
>
>

Alright, then if all belief systems and books... are just different
perspectives of the same whole....

In the proper light it is not bad to try and fit or overlay some belief
or whatnot onto, in this case, the matrix trilogy. Its more like an
exersize to gain clairity of the whole, via seeing the whole from
different points of view. As such it is also useful to recognize where a
given belief or whatnot doesn't fit, as that too is exposing of the whole.

From my point of view I see both the architect and the oracle as not
productive elements, but rather illusion mocking the real father physics
and mother nature...where the creators would be the machines and the
humans before them, who created the machines in the first place.

But then teh distoryers are also the humans who blackened the sky and
teh machines who enslaved the humans...

Protector?...wouldn't that be the game result? I mean if Thomas Andersen
never played teh game, then he'd still probably be alive feeding the
machines ... but zion....gone...???

so in this big picture of the trilogy it seems the protector is the
balance or need of each (machine -- human) of the other...what might be
a fact and the natural protector.

the danger is in the influence of the movie(s) as to daily thinking in
regards to relative things. there are other ways of thinking about some
things then the message given of ultimate compromise and defeat of any
real freedom.... exchanged only for a promise of such.

as a matter of keeping in check with reality, the whole picture ... it
doesn't hurt to be honest about nothing yet really fitting of being an
accurate description of reality (philosophy) but only theories..