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Adam Cameron

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:29 pm
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CONTAINS OPINIONS ON "SUNSHINE" (NOT EXACTLY SPOILERS)





The early "character definition" scenes of Sunshine, especially those
around the dinner table, were heavily reminscent of similar scenes in
Alien, even down to seeming like they weren't scripted. No mention of
bonuses, though ;-)

I thought Sunshine started out as a good film, with debts to Alien, 2001,
Solaris (a bit), and Event Horizon (in a good way; better than EH itself
was, if that's possible!). It ended up a bit of a mess, though. It was
good until the "univited guest" showed up on the spaceship; and the ending
was pretty bloody incoherent.

I thought the last half-hour let down an otherwise good film.

Thoughts?

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Adam

(The trailers for "28 Weeks Later..." looked good, too)

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:47 pm
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On 30 Apr, 23:29, Adam Cameron <adam_j... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> CONTAINS OPINIONS ON "SUNSHINE" (NOT EXACTLY SPOILERS)
>
> The early "character definition" scenes of Sunshine, especially those
> around the dinner table, were heavily reminscent of similar scenes in
> Alien, even down to seeming like they weren't scripted. No mention of
> bonuses, though ;-)
>
> I thought Sunshine started out as a good film, with debts to Alien, 2001,
> Solaris (a bit), and Event Horizon (in a good way; better than EH itself
> was, if that's possible!). It ended up a bit of a mess, though. It was
> good until the "univited guest" showed up on the spaceship; and the ending
> was pretty bloody incoherent.
>
> I thought the last half-hour let down an otherwise good film.
>
> Thoughts?

Sorry, cant comment on "Sunshine" as not seen it yet! I tend to wait
until a film is on DVD and go rent it - unless I really, really wanna
see a film!

But why oh why do some films, that grab you by the goolies, let you
down at the end with something so deep or fragmented that you cant
grasp the ending?

The Prestige did that for me - and it hurts! I love deep, shock or
twist endings (especially when they are so good that you cant suss it
out before the end - there is so much predictability in films today,
it's brilliant when one can keep you gripped right to the end).

Personally, I wasnt impressed with EH at all - the first time I
watched it I just felt cheated - it felt like a cheap zombie film.
Gave it a second chance a couple of years later and still didnt get
blown away! Am I missing something?


> (The trailers for "28 Weeks Later..." looked good, too)

It does, doesnt it? :))))))

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Adam Cameron

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:42 am
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> Personally, I wasnt impressed with EH at all - the first time I
> watched it I just felt cheated - it felt like a cheap zombie film.
> Gave it a second chance a couple of years later and still didnt get
> blown away! Am I missing something?

No, I pretty much think you were right first time.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:06 am
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On 1 May, 08:42, Adam Cameron <adam_j... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Personally, I wasnt impressed with EH at all - the first time I
> > watched it I just felt cheated - it felt like a cheap zombie film.
> > Gave it a second chance a couple of years later and still didnt get
> > blown away! Am I missing something?
>
> No, I pretty much think you were right first time.
>
> --
> Adam

Phew! That's alright then! :))

Funnily enough, today the projectionist at the cinema I work at told
me to add "Sunshine" to the listings for June - so will be getting to
see it on the big screen anyway by the looks!

And before anyone asks "why so late?" - blame the distributors!
Depending on whether a film does well or not, we are told we cant have
a film before a certain date and also have to show it for a designated
amount of days - plus we only have one screen!

Well, the 4 worker bee volunteers get pretty sick of being at the hall
for 5/6 days in a row so we dig our heels in and say NO, shove ya film
up ya bum then! <-- politely of course! :P
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wmmvrrvrrmm

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 6:25 am
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I for some reason had the urge to watch a 1960s movie called Voyage To
The Bottom Of The Sea the week before, it was a fine movie for it's
time, but when I watched "Sunshine" the following week, I was
distressed about how three major plot elements seemed very much lifted
from Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea and redressed. Myself and the
maiden with whom I watched the movie were very upset by this, it just
spelt out that people have great trouble writing really new material.
As soon as they got aboard the place where the uninvited guest came
from, I just turned off and wondered what I was doing in the cinema
watching this film. I could have used my time better painting the
toenails of the maiden who watched the movie with me than watching
this film at that point. But all the exterior shots were very
beautiful. I went ahead seeing the movie fully informed that I
wouldn't find it that interesting, and as it goes, whenever I see a
Danny Boyle photo or see him wandering around a bookshop in London, or
even read an interview with him, I'm hit by waves of disinterest. I
think that the title of his movie A Life Less Ordinary did make more
sense when I would call it A Lifeless Ordinary. But Sunshine was the
first movie of his that I saw, and maybe it might well be the last.

But I acknowledge that it might well be hard to make a movie these
days, and that Danny Boyle did have an interesting idea for the
unwanted visitor that he couldn't get the money to shoot, in terms of
glowing interior organs. I suppose also Alien's plot elements were
borrowed from past movies and the act of borrowing and redressing
elements from Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea is the natural thing to
do for Sunshine's script writer, it might even be a brave move. When
Sunshine comes out on DVD, there is a possibility that I might buy it
for reasons similar to why i bought Event Horizon.

It's probably a terrible time for new sci-fi ideas.
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