Jay and Silent Bob

Dwight Frippery wrote:

> Kevin Smith carries on the tradition
> of silent comedy as one half of this
> duo. Perspecacious critics agree.

I never found him funny. But then I'm a Persnickity critic.

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"Dwight Frippery" <Frippo DeleteThis @webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Kevin Smith carries on the tradition
> of silent comedy as one half of this
> duo. Perspecacious critics agree.
>

Although I am a fan of Kevin Smith, and especially of his near-perfect
romantic comedy "Chasing Amy" (1997), I have to disagree with you and the
other "perspecacious" (sp?) critics.

I think you mean perspicacious.

Carrying "on the tradition of silent comedy" requires a lot more than just
acting dumb and not talking. I would agree with you that Kevin Smith is one
talented hombre... but his Silent Bob is not funny in the inspired tradition
of Chaplin, Lloyd, Keaton, Arbuckle, or Langdon. He's just quiet.

Dan N.
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Dan N wrote:

>Although I am a fan of Kevin Smith, and
>especially of his near-perfect romantic
>comedy "Chasing Amy" (1997), I have to
>disagree with you and the other
>"perspecacious" (sp?) critics.

Agree with you about "Chasing Amy."
Silent Bob does only a cameo
in that one. Yet SB has done some
physical comedy in the other films,
especially JAY AND SILENT BOB STRIKE BACK, so maybe ole Frippo
has a point for once.
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G-HELPS.DeleteThis@webtv.net (George Shelps) wrote in message news:Yet SB has done some
> physical comedy in the other films,
> especially JAY AND SILENT BOB STRIKE BACK, so maybe ole Frippo
> has a point for once.

After watching J&SBSB, Dogma, and other Smith films I decided the duo
are a modern-day stoner version of Harpo and Chico. Replace Harpo's
raincoat and plug hat with SB's trenchcoat and backwards ballcap, and
Chico's "Italian" accent with Jay's goofy venacular and there you have
it!

Arnie Bernstein
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arniebernstein.DeleteThis@hotmail.com (Arnie Bernstein) wrote:


>>Yet SB has done some physical
>>comedy in the other films,
>>especially JAY AND SILENT BOB
>>STRIKE BACK, so maybe ole Frippo
>>has a point for once.

>After watching J&SBSB, Dogma, and
>other Smith films I decided the duo are a
>modern-day stoner version of Harpo and
>Chico. Replace Harpo's raincoat and
>plug hat with SB's trenchcoat and
>backwards ballcap, and Chico's "Italian"
>accent with Jay's goofy venacular and
>there you have it!

Exactly on target!

But Smith says he's dropping the characters after STRIKES BACK.

OT comment:

(I think Kevin Smith along with M. Night
Shyamalan are the only 2 young American directors who are true
"auteurs," i.e
with a real personal vision. Both segregate themselves from Hollywood,
Smith in Red Bank, NJ, Shyamalan in
the Philadelphia suburbs...is there a
message there?)
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"Arnie Bernstein" <arniebernstein DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> After watching J&SBSB, Dogma, and other Smith films I decided the duo
> are a modern-day stoner version of Harpo and Chico. Replace Harpo's
> raincoat and plug hat with SB's trenchcoat and backwards ballcap, and
> Chico's "Italian" accent with Jay's goofy venacular and there you have
> it!
>
> Arnie Bernstein


Yes, there you have it. But the Marx Brothers were not silent comedy.
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"Tony Spadaro" <tspadaro.DeleteThis@ncmaps.rr.com> wrote in message
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> So Silent Bob is the equivalent of Harold Lloyd? Or perhaps he's more
> like Ben Turpin. Where, by the way, is Perspecacious - Sounds like it must
> be in Alabama. I know I don't want to go there if all the critics are that
> dumb.
>

I really can't believe someone just mentioned Silent Bob and Ben Turpin the
same thread. I'm not saying it's bad, I just never thought it would happen.

eric
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Eric Miller wrote:

> "Tony Spadaro" <tspadaro RemoveThis @ncmaps.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:yc49b.5063$x21.3293@twister.southeast.rr.com...
>
>> So Silent Bob is the equivalent of Harold Lloyd? Or perhaps he's more
>>like Ben Turpin. Where, by the way, is Perspecacious - Sounds like it must
>>be in Alabama. I know I don't want to go there if all the critics are that
>>dumb.
>>
>>
>
> I really can't believe someone just mentioned Silent Bob and Ben Turpin the
> same thread. I'm not saying it's bad, I just never thought it would happen.
>


Is it that you never thought it would happen or you thought it would
never happen? If the latter, you've got a lot of time on your hands.


Bob
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"Eric Stott" <estott.RemoveThis@localnet.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Dwight Frippery wrote:
>
> > Kevin Smith carries on the tradition
> > of silent comedy as one half of this
> > duo. Perspecacious critics agree.
>
> I never found him funny. But then I'm a Persnickity critic.

On the other hand he writes some very good comic books.

(Actually he does.)

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I don't know.
Does Kevin Smith have a funny walk
unique to him? Does he pratfall on cue?
Has he ever caught a pie in the face?
Is he an acrobat? These are the "traditions
of silent comedy" that I'm familiar with.

Mark

"Dwight Frippery" <Frippo.DeleteThis@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Kevin Smith carries on the tradition
> of silent comedy as one half of this
> duo. Perspecacious critics agree.
>
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"Brent McKee" <bSmckee DeleteThis @shaw.caN> wrote in message news:<OPc9b.151588$la.3199905@news1.calgary.shaw.ca>...
> "Eric Stott" <estott DeleteThis @localnet.com> wrote in message
> news:3F6408EB.182B942E@localnet.com...
> >
> >
> > Dwight Frippery wrote:
> >
> > > Kevin Smith carries on the tradition
> > > of silent comedy as one half of this
> > > duo. Perspecacious critics agree.
> >
> > I never found him funny. But then I'm a Persnickity critic.
>
> On the other hand he writes some very good comic books.
>
> (Actually he does.)
>

And I've just seen his new film JERSEY GIRL, which is his first
"mainstream" picture. It's absoutely tremendous and will vault him to
a whole new level.

Mike S.

"We had a deal with you, on the comics, remember, for likeness rights,
as we're not only the artistic basis, but also obviously the character
basis, for your intellectual property, Bluntman and Chronic. When said
property was optioned by Miramax Films, you were legally obliged to
secure our permission to transfer the concept to another medium. As
you failed to do that, Banky, you are in breach of the original
contract, ergo you find yourself in a very actionable position."--a
not-so-Silent Bob in J&SBSB
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<< OT comment:

(I think Kevin Smith along with M. Night
Shyamalan are the only 2 young American directors who are true
"auteurs," i.e
with a real personal vision. Both segregate themselves from Hollywood,
Smith in Red Bank, NJ, Shyamalan in
the Philadelphia suburbs...is there a
message there?) >>

Arguably. As an illustration of the opposite career track, there's Joe
Carnahan, who directed the terrific, gritty, personal, low-budget NARC, and is
now rumored to be directing MISSION IMPOSSIBLE 3. Ugh.

Shawn Stone
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"Dr. Giraud" <shawnstone DeleteThis @aol.commie> wrote in message
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>
> Arguably. As an illustration of the opposite career track, there's Joe
> Carnahan, who directed the terrific, gritty, personal, low-budget NARC,
and is
> now rumored to be directing MISSION IMPOSSIBLE 3. Ugh.
>
> Shawn Stone
>

Clarification please. Why do you say "Ugh?" Does that snort refer to
Carnahan, to NARC, or to MISSION IMPOSSIBLE? From your message it's
impossible to tell.

Dan N.
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