Any LOTR fans here?

In article <40cdac54$0$263$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>,
"Tracy" <sistermoonconstant DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

>> Maybe we could start discussing whether the Balrog has wings - that
>> should keep us going for a decade or so. :)
>
> "In its right hand was a blade like a stabbing tongue of fire; in its left
> it help a whip of many thongs....His enemy halted again, facing him, and the
> shadows about it reached out like two vast wings"
>
> Its metaphorical, yes?????

Do you want to play? :) If so, I have the rebuttal right here - two paragraphs
later in the same passage:

"...suddenly it drew itself up to a great height, and its wings were spread
from wall to wall..."

Let the games begin. :)

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"Sandman" <mr DeleteThis @sandman.net> wrote in message
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> Maybe we could start discussing whether the Balrog has wings - that should
keep
> us going for a decade or so. :)


???

Why?

They're easily seen in TTT


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In article <cakpu6$dku$2@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Covenant"
<covenant.RemoveThis@joelamb.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>> Maybe we could start discussing whether the Balrog has wings - that
>> should keep us going for a decade or so. :)
>> ???
>
> Why?
>
> They're easily seen in TTT

There is no Balrog present in TTT, Cov. Perhaps you mean FotR?

And I take it you're not a LotR fan (as you are an alien fan, that is).

First off, the books are canon, and the movies and the drawings are all visual
interpretation of the books, not canon in themselves. You should look up "does
the balrog have wings" on google, there are some heavy duty articles written on
the subject, interesting read. :)

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On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:42:17 +0200, Sandman <mr.RemoveThis@sandman.net> wrote:

>Maybe we could start discussing whether the Balrog has wings - that should keep
>us going for a decade or so. :)

AAAAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!

And personally, I think Deckard was a replicant. :-)

Jokes aside though, I thought they handled this quite well in the
movie. It had kind of shadowy wings that maybe-were, maybe-weren't.
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"The Fuzz damn you!" <johnnySPAMALICIOUScooltail.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:42:17 +0200, Sandman <mr.RemoveThis@sandman.net> wrote:
>
> >Maybe we could start discussing whether the Balrog has wings - that
should keep
> >us going for a decade or so. :)
>
> AAAAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!
>
> And personally, I think Deckard was a replicant. :-)
>
> Jokes aside though, I thought they handled this quite well in the
> movie. It had kind of shadowy wings that maybe-were, maybe-weren't.

I know that whole theses were done on the does it/doesnt it question - with
many contradictions thrown in.
I think its down to intepretation.
Come on Sandman, whaddyathink???
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In article <rdlrc09or8cd3oc4e6kfs2168t0bnh95qb RemoveThis @4ax.com>,
The Fuzz damn you! <johnnySPAMALICIOUScooltail RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:42:17 +0200, Sandman <mr RemoveThis @sandman.net> wrote:
>
> >Maybe we could start discussing whether the Balrog has wings - that should
> >keep
> >us going for a decade or so. :)
>
> AAAAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!
>
> And personally, I think Deckard was a replicant. :-)
>
> Jokes aside though, I thought they handled this quite well in the
> movie. It had kind of shadowy wings that maybe-were, maybe-weren't.

Yes, but the movie most certainly subscribed to the "it has wings"-side, even
if the wings were "dubious". :)

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In article <40cde398$0$248$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>, "Tracy"
<sistermoonconstant.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>> Maybe we could start discussing whether the Balrog has wings - that
>>> should keep us going for a decade or so. :)
>>
>> AAAAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!
>>
>> And personally, I think Deckard was a replicant. :-)
>>
>> Jokes aside though, I thought they handled this quite well in the
>> movie. It had kind of shadowy wings that maybe-were, maybe-weren't.
>
> I know that whole theses were done on the does it/doesnt it question -
> with many contradictions thrown in. I think its down to intepretation.
> Come on Sandman, whaddyathink???

Obviously. Which is why it's fun to argue it. If there were actual facts
involved - then were would the fun be? :)

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"Sandman" <mr.RemoveThis@sandman.net> wrote in message
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> In article <cakpu6$dku$2@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Covenant"
> <covenant.RemoveThis@joelamb.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> Maybe we could start discussing whether the Balrog has wings - that
> >> should keep us going for a decade or so. :)
> >> ???
> >
> > Why?
> >
> > They're easily seen in TTT
>
> There is no Balrog present in TTT, Cov. Perhaps you mean FotR?


REally???

So what is Gandalf fighting in the opening montage and later *Here's how I
came back* flashback?) ???

;' ))))


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In article <cani40$377$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>,
"Covenant" <covenant.TakeThisOut@joelamb.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> > >> Maybe we could start discussing whether the Balrog has wings - that
> > >> should keep us going for a decade or so. :)
> > >> ???
> > >
> > > Why?
> > >
> > > They're easily seen in TTT
> >
> > There is no Balrog present in TTT, Cov. Perhaps you mean FotR?
>
> REally???
>
> So what is Gandalf fighting in the opening montage and later *Here's how I
> came back* flashback?) ???

So you're -not- a LotR fan. That's the movie, Cov. You know, the one that came
out fifty years after the book was published. :P

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"Sandman" <mr RemoveThis @sandman.net> wrote in message
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> In article <cani40$377$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>,
> "Covenant" <covenant RemoveThis @joelamb.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > >> Maybe we could start discussing whether the Balrog has wings - that
> > > >> should keep us going for a decade or so. :)
> > > >> ???
> > > >
> > > > Why?
> > > >
> > > > They're easily seen in TTT
> > >
> > > There is no Balrog present in TTT, Cov. Perhaps you mean FotR?
> >
> > REally???
> >
> > So what is Gandalf fighting in the opening montage and later *Here's how
I
> > came back* flashback?) ???
>
> So you're -not- a LotR fan. That's the movie, Cov. You know, the one that
came
> out fifty years after the book was published. :P


Thats why I said easily *Seen* !!!


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In article <caqohh$4n2$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Covenant"
<covenant DeleteThis @joelamb.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>>>>>> Maybe we could start discussing whether the Balrog has wings -
>>>>>> that should keep us going for a decade or so. :)
>>>>>> ???
>>>>>
>>>>> Why?
>>>>>
>>>>> They're easily seen in TTT
>>>>
>>>> There is no Balrog present in TTT, Cov. Perhaps you mean FotR?
>>>
>>> REally???
>>>
>>> So what is Gandalf fighting in the opening montage and later *Here's
>>> how I came back* flashback?) ???
>>
>> So you're -not- a LotR fan. That's the movie, Cov. You know, the one
>> that came out fifty years after the book was published. :P
>
> Thats why I said easily *Seen* !!!

i.e. a pretty shoddy argument about whether Balrogs have wings.

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"Sandman" <mr.RemoveThis@sandman.net> wrote in message
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> In article <caqohh$4n2$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Covenant"
> <covenant.RemoveThis@joelamb.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> Maybe we could start discussing whether the Balrog has wings -
> >>>>>> that should keep us going for a decade or so. :)
> >>>>>> ???
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> They're easily seen in TTT
> >>>>
> >>>> There is no Balrog present in TTT, Cov. Perhaps you mean FotR?
> >>>
> >>> REally???
> >>>
> >>> So what is Gandalf fighting in the opening montage and later *Here's
> >>> how I came back* flashback?) ???
> >>
> >> So you're -not- a LotR fan. That's the movie, Cov. You know, the one
> >> that came out fifty years after the book was published. :P
> >
> > Thats why I said easily *Seen* !!!
>
> i.e. a pretty shoddy argument about whether Balrogs have wings.
>
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I'm staying outta *this* one!!!
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"Sandman" <mr RemoveThis @sandman.net> wrote in message
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> Maybe we could start discussing whether the Balrog has wings - that should
keep
> us going for a decade or so. :)
>
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I'll ask you this! Do you think the Balrog has wings and, if so, why do you
think this!
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