Where is LV-426

In article <c91ddq$bnf$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Michael" <no_reply.DeleteThis@sender.com>
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> Which star is it in orbit about?

Take a right after the Texaco star...

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David A McIntee wrote:
> "Michael" <no_reply.DeleteThis@sender.com> wrote in message
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>> Which star is it in orbit about?
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> That's never been stated (not yet, see below) but it's in the
> constellation Reticulum. Yes, the same Recticulum where saucerians
> will have you believe the Greys come from.
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> The specific star has never been named, but I'd put good money on AvP
> pinning it as Zeta Reticuli, again, cos that where saucerians would
> have you believe the Greys come from. The movie does (ATM, anyway)
> have Charles Weyland and Co. discover the location of LV-426.
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Zeta Reticuli that's it - thanks. In Alien just after they are out of
hypersleep someone, maybe Lambert says they are just short of Zeta Reticula,
haven't even reached the outer rim yet.

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In article <c937v1$d60$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Michael" <no_reply RemoveThis @sender.com>
wrote:

<< Zeta Reticuli that's it - thanks. In Alien just after they are out of
hypersleep someone, maybe Lambert says they are just short of Zeta Reticula,
haven't even reached the outer rim yet.

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I'm wondering about this, but I don't believe any more that it is in the Zeta
II Reticuli area, but this would have been the nearest known star on the map as
a kind of a homage to the Betty and Barny Hill abductions. I am just
experiencing the idea that it is unspecific uncharted space, now.

Dom
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> In article <c937v1$d60$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Michael"
<no_reply.DeleteThis@sender.com>
> wrote:
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> << Zeta Reticuli that's it - thanks. In Alien just after they are out of
> hypersleep someone, maybe Lambert says they are just short of Zeta
Reticula,
> haven't even reached the outer rim yet.
>
> --
> Regards
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> I'm wondering about this, but I don't believe any more that it is in the
Zeta
> II Reticuli area, but this would have been the nearest known star on the
map as
> a kind of a homage to the Betty and Barny Hill abductions. I am just
> experiencing the idea that it is unspecific uncharted space, now.


And even then, they're just *short* of Zeta Two Reticulli.

I wonder what defines *short* in astrological terms??


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Covenant wrote:
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>> In article <c937v1$d60$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Michael"
>> <no_reply RemoveThis @sender.com> wrote:
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>> << Zeta Reticuli that's it - thanks. In Alien just after they are
>> out of hypersleep someone, maybe Lambert says they are just short of
>> Zeta Reticula, haven't even reached the outer rim yet.

>> I'm wondering about this, but I don't believe any more that it is in
>> the Zeta II Reticuli area, but this would have been the nearest
>> known star on the map as a kind of a homage to the Betty and Barny
>> Hill abductions. I am just experiencing the idea that it is
>> unspecific uncharted space, now.

> And even then, they're just *short* of Zeta Two Reticulli.
>
> I wonder what defines *short* in astrological terms??

I think 'just short' would imply zet2 Ret is the nearest system. I think
also if this system is quoted then this is the LV-426 system regardless of
other refs, also the star is 5.24 mag and of G2 V type and so similar to the
sun. Thinking so much about the source system is a little geeky I admit but
it sets the limit of the outer rim in that direction to within 39 light
years from the solar system which makes the network small in galactic terms.
This sets technological levels and gives the feel of deep space travel still
being a relatively new and clunky thing and makes the network small and puny
in a big hostile universe.

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In article <c95ff5$k7f$2@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>,
"Covenant" <covenant RemoveThis @joelamb.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> > I'm wondering about this, but I don't believe any more that it is in the
> > Zeta II Reticuli area, but this would have been the nearest known star on
> > the map as a kind of a homage to the Betty and Barny Hill abductions. I am
> > just experiencing the idea that it is unspecific uncharted space, now.
>
> And even then, they're just *short* of Zeta Two Reticulli.
>
> I wonder what defines *short* in astrological terms??

about 20 yards. :P

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> In article <c937v1$d60$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Michael"
<no_reply.TakeThisOut@sender.com>
> wrote:
>
> << Zeta Reticuli that's it - thanks. In Alien just after they are out of
> hypersleep someone, maybe Lambert says they are just short of Zeta
Reticula,
> haven't even reached the outer rim yet.
>
> --
> Regards
> >>
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> I'm wondering about this, but I don't believe any more that it is in the
Zeta
> II Reticuli area, but this would have been the nearest known star on the
map as
> a kind of a homage to the Betty and Barny Hill abductions. I am just
> experiencing the idea that it is unspecific uncharted space, now.
>
> Dom

Yeah! Apparently, Betty Hill drew the star system *6 years before it was
discovered by astrologists*.
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"Sandman" <mr.DeleteThis@sandman.net> wrote in message
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> In article <c95ff5$k7f$2@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>,
> "Covenant" <covenant.DeleteThis@joelamb.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
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> > > I'm wondering about this, but I don't believe any more that it is in
the
> > > Zeta II Reticuli area, but this would have been the nearest known star
on
> > > the map as a kind of a homage to the Betty and Barny Hill abductions.
I am
> > > just experiencing the idea that it is unspecific uncharted space, now.
> >
> > And even then, they're just *short* of Zeta Two Reticulli.
> >
> > I wonder what defines *short* in astrological terms??
>
> about 20 yards. :P
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Now *that's* short! Where's the wormhole, Sandman?
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In article <c96nom$o29$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Michael" <no_reply.TakeThisOut@sender.com>
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<< I think 'just short' would imply zet2 Ret is the nearest system. I think
also if this system is quoted then this is the LV-426 system regardless of
other refs, also the star is 5.24 mag and of G2 V type and so similar to the
sun. Thinking so much about the source system is a little geeky I admit but
it sets the limit of the outer rim in that direction to within 39 light
years from the solar system which makes the network small in galactic terms.
This sets technological levels and gives the feel of deep space travel still
being a relatively new and clunky thing and makes the network small and puny
in a big hostile universe.

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Okay, I am going into even further nerdy territory than anyone could get to
before with this thing. I will state what got me confused here and well why I
had to say that Zeta Reticuli is not the star system where the alien creature
is found.

In Dan O'Bannon's map of the cosmos that came with his first Alien script, it
seems that his concept of The Outer Rim, a place full of uncolonised star
systems, has Earth at the nucleus and the Outer Rim is 54 lightyears in Radius,
and contains 1650 star systems and well Zeta Reticuli is no more than 40 or
indeed 39 light years away from Earth which you've just pointed out. Further
into the Out Rim, they have an area called Earth Vicinity which 36.2 lightyears
in diameter with Earth at the centre and in O'Bannon's personal little dream
world had 14 colonies around the various planets amongst it's 37 or 39 star
systems

So the crew of the Nostromo in the film script, like the crew of the Snark in
the original script, were just short of Zeta II Reticuli and they hadn't even
reached the outer rim yet.
That might have been anything like 15 or more light years if we look at it the
way that I am going. I would like to assume that Dan would have known the
general distance from Zeta Reticuli to Earth perhaps from an astronomical
manual, and indeed maybe he had understood reasons for giving his Out Rim this
certain radius, I haven't worked that one out yet.

I suggest the reference to Zeta II Reticuli indicates the direction that they
were coming in through the cosmos to reach the area where Earth was, so it
would have been something to take notice of in their star charts. But if you
want to believe that the alien derelict is found on a planetoid orbiting this
star still, well I might be wrong, and it might have been O'Bannon's intention
to have that star system as the one they visited without any thought about it's
actual placement in the cosmos other than it would be somewhere along their
journey to Earth.

best wishes
Dom
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wmmvrrvrrmm mmrrvrrvmmw wrote:
> In article <c96nom$o29$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Michael"
> <no_reply DeleteThis @sender.com> wrote:
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> << I think 'just short' would imply zet2 Ret is the nearest system. I
> think also if this system is quoted then this is the LV-426 system
> regardless of other refs, also the star is 5.24 mag and of G2 V type
> and so similar to the sun. Thinking so much about the source system
> is a little geeky I admit but it sets the limit of the outer rim in
> that direction to within 39 light
> years from the solar system which makes the network small in galactic
> terms. This sets technological levels and gives the feel of deep
> space travel still being a relatively new and clunky thing and makes
> the network small and puny in a big hostile universe.

> Okay, I am going into even further nerdy territory than anyone could get
to
before with this thing. I will state what got me confused here and well why
I
had to say that Zeta Reticuli is not the star system where the alien
creature
is found.

In Dan O'Bannon's map of the cosmos that came with his first Alien script,
it
seems that his concept of The Outer Rim, a place full of uncolonised star
systems, has Earth at the nucleus and the Outer Rim is 54 lightyears in
Radius,
and contains 1650 star systems and well Zeta Reticuli is no more than 40 or
indeed 39 light years away from Earth which you've just pointed out.
Further
into the Out Rim, they have an area called Earth Vicinity which 36.2
lightyears
in diameter with Earth at the centre and in O'Bannon's personal little dream
world had 14 colonies around the various planets amongst it's 37 or 39 star
systems

So the crew of the Nostromo in the film script, like the crew of the Snark
in
the original script, were just short of Zeta II Reticuli and they hadn't
even
reached the outer rim yet.
That might have been anything like 15 or more light years if we look at it
the
way that I am going. I would like to assume that Dan would have known the
general distance from Zeta Reticuli to Earth perhaps from an astronomical
manual, and indeed maybe he had understood reasons for giving his Out Rim
this
certain radius, I haven't worked that one out yet.

I suggest the reference to Zeta II Reticuli indicates the direction that
they
were coming in through the cosmos to reach the area where Earth was, so it
would have been something to take notice of in their star charts. But if you
want to believe that the alien derelict is found on a planetoid orbiting
this
star still, well I might be wrong, and it might have been O'Bannon's
intention
to have that star system as the one they visited without any thought about
it's
actual placement in the cosmos other than it would be somewhere along their
journey to Earth.

Further geekiness. Just short of zet2 Ret does imply to me that they are
physically close to that system and not that it is a reference point which
defines their route. However I accept that they might be naming the next
important point rather than the insignificant system they are actually
closest to. I haven't seen the original comos map but would the 54 ly
diameter not be an average and the actual shell be irregular allowing the
outer rim boundary in this direction to be within 39 ly. Further to this
they may not be taking a direct line route for astronomical, political or
even technological reasons. Perhaps the mining site was within the outer rim
and to return to earth they might be required to travel out to the rim and
then arc back.

Mike

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In article <c9dn7i$do7$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Michael" <no_reply.RemoveThis@sender.com>
wrote:

<< oint rather than the insignificant system they are actually
closest to. I haven't seen the original comos map but would the 54 ly
diameter not be an average and the actual shell be irregular allowing the
outer rim boundary in this direction to be within 39 ly. >><BR><BR>



Here is the map on this online script, and it is published also in the early
version of the script on the Alien Quadrilogy DVD set
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In article <c91ddq$bnf$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Michael" <no_reply RemoveThis @sender.com>
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<< Which star is it in orbit about?

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I've just been reading the original Dan O'Bannon script which ought to further
the lost feeling about where the planetoid was situated.

ROBY
Hell, no! We don't know what's down
there on that piece of rock! It
might be dangerous! What we should
do is get on the radio to the
exploration authorities... and let
them deal with it.

STANDARD
Except it will take 75 years to get
a reply back. Don't forget how far
we are from the Colonies, Martin.


so that seems to be 75 light years away from from civilisation, and O'Bannon
was the one who introduced the idea of Zeta 2 Reticuli into the script
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In article <c91ddq$bnf$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Michael"
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wrote:

<< Which star is it in orbit about?

Second star to the right, and straight on 'til morning.
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