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xanthus666

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:43 pm
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Seems our fave creepy fatso is in two films of Fox' "Horror"
box set; THE LODGER, and HANGOVER SQUARE,
Both turn of 20th century, London fog fests.
Our boy is almost slender in the last one; dieting can be harmful
bubies.

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El Klauso

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 9:45 am
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Ah, yes - "Fatism" - The last sanctioned prejudice.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:22 am
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On Oct 13, 10:28 am, mike o'sullivan <m....DeleteThis@nowhere.com> wrote:
> El Klauso wrote:
> > Ah, yes - "Fatism" - The last sanctioned prejudice.
>
> With good reason, he was, unbelievably, only 28 when he died.


<< Cregar was a marvelous supporting actor in THIS GUN FOR HIRE; BLACK
SWAN, and I WAKE UP SCREAMING. He could be fey and menacing at the
same time. But he wanted to be a lead, so drastic dieting done 'im
in.
What a Waldo Lydecker he would have made!
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Frank R.A.J. Maloney

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 12:04 pm
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xanthus666.DeleteThis@att.net wrote:
> On Oct 13, 10:28 am, mike o'sullivan <m....DeleteThis@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> El Klauso wrote:
>>> Ah, yes - "Fatism" - The last sanctioned prejudice.
>> With good reason, he was, unbelievably, only 28 when he died.
>
>
> << Cregar was a marvelous supporting actor in THIS GUN FOR HIRE; BLACK
> SWAN, and I WAKE UP SCREAMING. He could be fey and menacing at the
> same time. But he wanted to be a lead, so drastic dieting done 'im
> in.
> What a Waldo Lydecker he would have made!
>

He also made a great Satan (credited as "His Excellency") in _Heaven Can
Wait_ (1943). His reaction to Florence Bates's gams is beyond priceless.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:16 pm
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xanthus666.TakeThisOut@att.net wrote:

><< Cregar was a marvelous supporting actor in THIS GUN FOR HIRE; BLACK
>SWAN, and I WAKE UP SCREAMING.

He was just about my favorite screen pirate in "The Black Swan": a
scoundrel with a hefty girth who sometimes wanted to do things by the
book but most of the time wanted to screw the red tape & the crooked
bureaucracy & just git 'er done!

I'd like to see more of his later "occult" films.







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-- Beethoven, to Rochlitz, 1822
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Dave in Toronto

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:14 pm
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On Oct 13, 4:23 pm, David Oberman <doberman@etc.> wrote:
> El Klauso <Klau....TakeThisOut@Verizon.net> wrote:
> >Oh, I see - Making fun of a condition that kills people is also
> >perfectly justified in this particular moral universe.
>
> I don't make fun of fat people per se, but sometimes a guy's or a
> gal's girth is meant to be part of the act: e.g., Alan Sherman or Anna
> Russell.
>
> Who are some actors whose hefty weight or wide girth was an important
> part of their appeal?
>
> Margaret Rutherford
> Charles Laughton
> Eugene Pallette
> Fatty Arbuckle
> Orson Welles
> W.C. Fields
>
> ____
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Dave in Toronto

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:18 pm
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On Oct 13, 1:28 pm, mike o'sullivan <m... RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
> El Klauso wrote:
> > Ah, yes - "Fatism" - The last sanctioned prejudice.
>
> With good reason, he was, unbelievably, only 28 when he died.

The story I heard was that a girl had promised to marry him if he lost
weight so he went on a crash diet which killed him. I hope she was
worth it.

Dave in Toronto
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:04 pm
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"Dave in Toronto" <dmatthews03 RemoveThis @sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:1192310297.228191.27880@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 13, 1:28 pm, mike o'sullivan <m... RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
>> El Klauso wrote:
>> > Ah, yes - "Fatism" - The last sanctioned prejudice.
>>
>> With good reason, he was, unbelievably, only 28 when he died.
>
> The story I heard was that a girl had promised to marry him if he lost
> weight so he went on a crash diet which killed him. I hope she was
> worth it.

I have it on good authority that Laird wasn't going on no crash diet for no
GIRL. If you get my drift.

Jim Beaver
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mike o'sullivan

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:28 pm
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El Klauso wrote:
> Ah, yes - "Fatism" - The last sanctioned prejudice.
>
>
With good reason, he was, unbelievably, only 28 when he died.
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El Klauso

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:58 pm
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Oh, I see - Making fun of a condition that kills people is also
perfectly justified in this particular moral universe.

Very instructive.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:58 pm
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El Klauso <Klaus01.RemoveThis@Verizon.net> wrote:

>Oh, I see - Making fun of a condition that kills people is also
>perfectly justified in this particular moral universe.

I don't make fun of fat people per se, but sometimes a guy's or a
gal's girth is meant to be part of the act: e.g., Alan Sherman or Anna
Russell.

Who are some actors whose hefty weight or wide girth was an important
part of their appeal?

Margaret Rutherford
Charles Laughton
Eugene Pallette
Fatty Arbuckle
Orson Welles
W.C. Fields







____
He killed Klopstock for me.

-- Beethoven, to Rochlitz, 1822
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Frank R.A.J. Maloney

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 8:11 pm
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Jim Beaver wrote:
> "Dave in Toronto" <dmatthews03 DeleteThis @sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:1192310297.228191.27880@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>> On Oct 13, 1:28 pm, mike o'sullivan <m... DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> El Klauso wrote:
>>>> Ah, yes - "Fatism" - The last sanctioned prejudice.
>>> With good reason, he was, unbelievably, only 28 when he died.
>> The story I heard was that a girl had promised to marry him if he lost
>> weight so he went on a crash diet which killed him. I hope she was
>> worth it.
>
> I have it on good authority that Laird wasn't going on no crash diet for no
> GIRL. If you get my drift.

Exactly. He was trying to reduce for a part in a film. If you get my drift.

To quote Wiki: "After top-billing in The Lodger (1944), who may or may
not be Jack the Ripper, the increasingly sensitive Cregar was growing
tired of being thought of as merely a hulking villain. When assigned the
role of demented pianist George Bone in Hangover Square (1945), Cregar
decided to give the character a romantic veneer, and to that end lost
one hundred pounds in a crash diet which included prescribed
amphetamines. The strain on his system resulted in severe abdominal
problems; a few days after undergoing stomach surgery, the 28-year-old
Laird Cregar died of heart attack. (biography attributed to: Hal
Erickson, All Movie Guide)"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laird_Cregar

But before that he also turned in a boisterous performance in _Hello,
Frisco, Hello_ (1943) as the erstwhile prospector always mining John
Payne for another grub stake.

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:41 pm
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In article <0u92h3l05972v6s58r6ifliv7qc3fhes7r.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>, doberman@etc.
says...
> El Klauso <Klaus01.TakeThisOut@Verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >Oh, I see - Making fun of a condition that kills people is also
> >perfectly justified in this particular moral universe.
>
> I don't make fun of fat people per se, but sometimes a guy's or a
> gal's girth is meant to be part of the act: e.g., Alan Sherman or Anna
> Russell.
>
> Who are some actors whose hefty weight or wide girth was an important
> part of their appeal?
>
> Margaret Rutherford
> Charles Laughton
> Eugene Pallette
> Fatty Arbuckle
> Orson Welles
> W.C. Fields
>

Sydney Greenstreet.

Not sure about Welles...

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What in Swansea are going on here?!
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:21 am
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> > The story I heard was that a girl had promised to marry him if he lost
> > weight so he went on a crash diet which killed him. I hope she was
> > worth it.
>
> I have it on good authority that Laird wasn't going on no crash diet for no
> GIRL. If you get my drift.
>
> Jim Beaver



Whatever.

Dave in Toronto
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:38 am
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In the Year of the Golden Pig, the Great and Powerful mike
o'sullivan declared:
> El Klauso wrote:
>> Ah, yes - "Fatism" - The last sanctioned prejudice.
>>
> With good reason, he was, unbelievably, only 28 when he died.

He died after going on a crash diet and losing a hundred pounds in a
couple months because he felt if he were thin, he'd get leading men
roles. If he'd stayed fat, he would've had a long career as a
character actor.

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little skin and you've got raw flesh.
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