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Sean O'Hara

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:46 am
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In the Year of the Golden Pig, the Great and Powerful David Oberman
declared:
>
> Who are some actors whose hefty weight or wide girth was an important
> part of their appeal?
>
> Margaret Rutherford
> Charles Laughton
> Eugene Pallette
> Fatty Arbuckle
> Orson Welles
> W.C. Fields
>

Curly, Lou Costello and Oliver Hardy. (Or is it Stan Laurel? I can
remember that Costello's the fat one because he's always yelling
"Hey Abbott!") And though I don't understand their appeal, John
Candy and Chris Farley.

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Sean O'Hara <http://diogenes-sinope.blogspot.com>
No Republican senator has sponsored more laws later held
unconstitutional than Hatch.
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:47 am
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Sean O'Hara <seanohara.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:

>He died after going on a crash diet and losing a hundred pounds in a
>couple months

In certain Third World countries, they call such a diet "famine."

I don't think Cregar died of heart failure; I think he died of hunger.
A hundred pounds is roughly equal to 350,000 calories. Over a
two-month stretch, that's about 5,800 calories per day.

Just how many calories was he consuming BEFORE his "diet"? Something's
fishy here, & it's neither wild-caught nor farmed.







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Frank R.A.J. Maloney

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:15 am
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David Oberman wrote:
> Sean O'Hara <seanohara DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> He died after going on a crash diet and losing a hundred pounds in a
>> couple months
>
> In certain Third World countries, they call such a diet "famine."
>
> I don't think Cregar died of heart failure; I think he died of hunger.
> A hundred pounds is roughly equal to 350,000 calories. Over a
> two-month stretch, that's about 5,800 calories per day.
>
> Just how many calories was he consuming BEFORE his "diet"? Something's
> fishy here, & it's neither wild-caught nor farmed.

As much as I hate to repeat myself, Cregar's heart attack was a
"complication" from abdominal surgery. He had been eating amphetamines
to speed up his weight loss. The uppers wound up giving him severe pains
for which he underwent surgery. In other words, speed kills.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laird_Cregar

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Frank in Seattle
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"Millennium hand and shrimp."
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David Oberman

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:42 am
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"Frank R.A.J. Maloney" <frajm DeleteThis @blarg.net> wrote:

>As much as I hate to repeat myself, Cregar's heart attack was a
>"complication" from abdominal surgery. He had been eating amphetamines
>to speed up his weight loss. The uppers wound up giving him severe pains
>for which he underwent surgery. In other words, speed kills.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laird_Cregar

Ahh ... that's sad. But that has its weird angle, too. What made those
physicians want to operate just based on complaints of pain? Did they
think he may have had a rupturing appendix? Pancreatitis? Was Cregar
also throwing up? Did he have a fever? Did he have blood work done, &
what did it show? I know this was in the days before CAT & ultrasound,
but what were the indications for surgery?

It's interesting that Cregar's character in "Hangover Square" is named
George Bone. Remember in "Bringing Up Baby" that George is the dog &
the David character masquerades as a Mr. Bone. Coincidence? Believe it
or not . . . . <maniacal laughter>







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-- Beethoven, to Rochlitz, 1822
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:47 am
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On Oct 14, 11:32 am, David Oberman <doberman@etc.> wrote:
> Sean O'Hara <seanoh... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> >It'd make for a very different movie, certainly. Webb's ...
> >swishiness adds a lot to the movie by complicating his interest in
> >Laura. With Cregar, it would've come off as straightforward
> >unrequited love.
>
> Plus, Cregar had a more outdoorsy presence. Clifton Webb was a human
> trinket. Cregar might have accidentally knocked over the grandfather
> clock on his way to hide the shotgun inside it.
>


<< Like alot of BIG men Waldo was described as being light on his
feet. He could also do canny imitations of people in Caspar's novel.
Supposedly, Cregar had both these abilities.

p.s. Lydecker really was a dear man - "Time, You Thief"
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Hal Erickson

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:45 pm
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"Dave in Toronto" <dmatthews03.TakeThisOut@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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>
>> > The story I heard was that a girl had promised to marry him if he lost
>> > weight so he went on a crash diet which killed him. I hope she was
>> > worth it.
>>
>> I have it on good authority that Laird wasn't going on no crash diet for
>> no
>> GIRL. If you get my drift.
>>
>> Jim Beaver

If anecdotal evidence can be trusted, he joyfully admitted his preferences
on the set of one of his pictures. "Yes I am--gloriously so!"

Ironic in that, when Cregar was passed over by Clifton Webb for the role of
Waldo Lydecker, Darryl Zanuck nearly vetoed Webb because, in his words, "He
flies!"

--Hal E
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:45 pm
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Sean O'Hara <seanohara.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:

>It'd make for a very different movie, certainly. Webb's ...
>swishiness adds a lot to the movie by complicating his interest in
>Laura. With Cregar, it would've come off as straightforward
>unrequited love.

Plus, Cregar had a more outdoorsy presence. Clifton Webb was a human
trinket. Cregar might have accidentally knocked over the grandfather
clock on his way to hide the shotgun inside it.







____
Baron von Swieten: "I need a man who can say 'No' when I talk nonsense.
Are you that man?"

Beethoven: "No."
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:45 pm
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David Oberman wrote:

>Who are some actors whose hefty weight or wide girth was an important
>part of their appeal?

Tor Johnson


Manfred
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Jim Beaver

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(Msg. 24) Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:02 pm
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"Sean O'Hara" <seanohara RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> In the Year of the Golden Pig, the Great and Powerful David Oberman
> declared:
>>
>> Who are some actors whose hefty weight or wide girth was an important
>> part of their appeal?
>>
>> Margaret Rutherford
>> Charles Laughton
>> Eugene Pallette
>> Fatty Arbuckle
>> Orson Welles
>> W.C. Fields
>>
>
> Curly, Lou Costello and Oliver Hardy. (Or is it Stan Laurel? I can
> remember that Costello's the fat one because he's always yelling
> "Hey Abbott!")

Careful. Not knowing which one's Stan and which one's Ollie can get you
booted out of this platoon, soldier.
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:03 pm
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"David Oberman" <doberman@etc.> wrote in message
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> Sean O'Hara <seanohara RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>It'd make for a very different movie, certainly. Webb's ...
>>swishiness adds a lot to the movie by complicating his interest in
>>Laura. With Cregar, it would've come off as straightforward
>>unrequited love.
>
> Clifton Webb was a human
> trinket.

Great line. Perfect.

Jim Beaver
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Sean O'Hara

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(Msg. 26) Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:04 pm
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In the Year of the Golden Pig, the Great and Powerful Hal Erickson
declared:
>
> Ironic in that, when Cregar was passed over by Clifton Webb for the role of
> Waldo Lydecker, Darryl Zanuck nearly vetoed Webb because, in his words, "He
> flies!"
>

It'd make for a very different movie, certainly. Webb's ...
swishiness adds a lot to the movie by complicating his interest in
Laura. With Cregar, it would've come off as straightforward
unrequited love.

--
Sean O'Hara <http://diogenes-sinope.blogspot.com>
Tim: At Chasers, it's Hooch for a pound and Wonderbras-get-in-free
night tonight.
-The Office
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:14 pm
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In article <5nekt3Fhp6ucU1 RemoveThis @mid.individual.net>, seanohara RemoveThis @gmail.com says...
> In the Year of the Golden Pig, the Great and Powerful David Oberman
> declared:
> >
> > Who are some actors whose hefty weight or wide girth was an important
> > part of their appeal?
> >
> > Margaret Rutherford
> > Charles Laughton
> > Eugene Pallette
> > Fatty Arbuckle
> > Orson Welles
> > W.C. Fields
> >
>
> Curly, Lou Costello and Oliver Hardy. (Or is it Stan Laurel?

<jaw drops>

You...you don't know which one's Stan and which one's Ollie!?!?

<swooon...thud>

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What in Swansea are going on here?!
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