Lectro 400 in Europe

I understand that due to European radio licence laws that the
transmitters are restricted to 50mw output compared to 100mw in the
States. Because of the lower output level does this greatly effect the
range and risk of more frequent drop outs.
Also I love my DPA 4060 mics I presume these work well with the
Lectros.
I have Audio radios at the moment that are in need of an upgrade, they
have worked fine but the lack of new improved designs, poor
engineering like the battery compartment door and the very high cost
for the accessories like cables has just turned me off them.
Are there any problems from engineering or design that you have come
accross with the Lectros

Thanks
Rich H
Larry Fisher <larrylectro.TakeThisOut@despammed.com> wrote in message news:<rvqs20dsu52fsm4s095h0vspcnplo3orv6.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>...
> Hi Richard,
> The 400 series in Europe is a 500 series. I will forward this to
> Gordon here at Lectro who will get you a list of dealers that have the
> 500's either on hand or being shipped. We just finished the process
> for CE approval (Euro equivalent to FCC). The 500 has 50 kHz
> modulation rather than 70 kHz and has 50 mW output rather than 100 mW
> otherwise they are the same as the 400 series. Also the 500 series are
> made in the European frequencies rather than the US blocks.
>
> Best Regards,
> Larry Fisher
> Lectrosonics
>
> On 13 Feb 2004 14:30:34 -0800, richhether.TakeThisOut@eircom.net (Richard H)
> wrote:
>
> >Hi I'm a sound mixer working out of Irealnd and I'm interested in
> >upgrading my radios to Lectro 400's from Audio 2000.
> >The problem is the 400 series are unavailable in Europe. I was
> >thinking of getting 2 from the US but need some advice on what
> >frequency range I should Go for in Europe the radio mic range is
> >quite high about(840- 880)on TVchannel 69, I'm not sure if I could
> >specify this or not.
> >
> >Also is there a dealer you would recommend
> >
> >Thanks
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On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 11:51:31 -0700, Larry Fisher
<larrylectro.RemoveThis@despammed.com> wrote:

>Hi Richard,
>The 400 series in Europe is a 500 series. I will forward this to
>Gordon here at Lectro who will get you a list of dealers that have the
>500's either on hand or being shipped. We just finished the process
>for CE approval (Euro equivalent to FCC). The 500 has 50 kHz
>modulation rather than 70 kHz and has 50 mW output rather than 100 mW
>otherwise they are the same as the 400 series. Also the 500 series are
>made in the European frequencies rather than the US blocks.

The problem we have in Europe, is that in every country the
frequencies are different. So, if i work abroad, ( 150 Km from here )
the Dutch frequency is rather "useless"', and if i do some bigger
European thing, i should order/rent 6 different Sets for every
country.
What i hear from US mixers working here in Eurpe, is that they take
the US stuff with them, and use it here ( and i use my EU stuff in the
US )

So, it's nice to have a European CE approved piece, but using a 400
series here on a specific frequency is about the same ''risk" .
You have more output power on the US series, thats an advantage.

And , since Uncle Greenspan decided to leave the interest rate at 1 %
, the Dollar is 1,28 Euro , the price difference between EU and the US
( 20 -35 % ) can & will be a serious reason to go for the Non CE
versions.

One problem could be the service that needs to be done on these 400
series. I don't know how the Firmware updates are being done. Is that
something that needs to be done by some very special setup, or can
that be done at home ? ( like with the new HD recorders )

Roberto. ( Netherlands)


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I use the Lectro 200 series in Spain with no problems at all.
In fact I never had interference and never had a single drop (thanks
Lectro people)
I work with the antennaes attached directly to receivers at sound cart
height.
You have 256 channels, it's easy to find a clean channel.
In Europe, the AudioLimited have been used for ages. They are rugged
and reliable but the Lectros (200, 205, 211 or 411) are as rugged and
reliable than the AL and a much more recent design, much more
versatile, 100mW, battery display of both TX and RX, freq scan!, very
long battery life with lithiums... and as far as I remember (about 6
or 7 years from last AL usage) they sound much better (freq bandwidth,
dynamic processing, etc) They sound even better than the Sennheiser
(wich, to my ears, have a poor dynamic range and some hiss; may be
better suited to theatre, musical, etc)
Spain is a real chaos with freq band assignation and use. From 790 to
950 you'll have interference, and the funny think is that the "legal"
freqs for radio mics are in between! They gave telephone companies and
TV the bands we where supossed to use. Anyhow I never had a single
problem between 500 and 750MHz. I don't know how about Ireland, but I
imagine it's not as strict as England.
That's my story. I hope it helps a tiny bit.

Fernando
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Fernando, thanks for your post.
I see your Lectro 200 transmitters give out 100mW,and have a frequency
range between 500 and 750 does that mean you brought them in from the
US. I'm heading to New York in the next couple of months and would
probably bring them back with me probable from Gotham Sound after
recieving a quote for around $2600 just over €2100 which is great
value. Has anyone had problems bringing sound equipment back from the
USA, like security problems or importation tax.

Thanks
Richard
fdi.DeleteThis@ran.es (Fernando) wrote in message news:<dcfabf52.0402170516.7ea30854.DeleteThis@posting.google.com>...
> I use the Lectro 200 series in Spain with no problems at all.
> In fact I never had interference and never had a single drop (thanks
> Lectro people)
> I work with the antennaes attached directly to receivers at sound cart
> height.
> You have 256 channels, it's easy to find a clean channel.
> In Europe, the AudioLimited have been used for ages. They are rugged
> and reliable but the Lectros (200, 205, 211 or 411) are as rugged and
> reliable than the AL and a much more recent design, much more
> versatile, 100mW, battery display of both TX and RX, freq scan!, very
> long battery life with lithiums... and as far as I remember (about 6
> or 7 years from last AL usage) they sound much better (freq bandwidth,
> dynamic processing, etc) They sound even better than the Sennheiser
> (wich, to my ears, have a poor dynamic range and some hiss; may be
> better suited to theatre, musical, etc)
> Spain is a real chaos with freq band assignation and use. From 790 to
> 950 you'll have interference, and the funny think is that the "legal"
> freqs for radio mics are in between! They gave telephone companies and
> TV the bands we where supossed to use. Anyhow I never had a single
> problem between 500 and 750MHz. I don't know how about Ireland, but I
> imagine it's not as strict as England.
> That's my story. I hope it helps a tiny bit.
>
> Fernando
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I don't know... after Sept 11 they may be very picky and find it in
your luggage. If you buy second hand, I would ask the seller for a
signed document saying it has no commercial value, so if any problem
at customs you show the paper and you should not have to pay taxes nor
duties. You can add they are radio microphones for personal musical
use or so, it's easy to understand for them. If they are new you
better declare at customs and pay the tax and duties, still you are
saving the shipping costs.
He he, that is the Spanish way

Amazed by Norway's discipline. I believe in England is similar.
In big events I just contact the rigt department and ask if there is
any problem with my freqs and use them or not.

Fernando
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"Richard H" <richhether.RemoveThis@eircom.net> wrote
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>Has anyone had problems bringing sound equipment back from the
> USA, like security problems or importation tax.

Here in Norway there's always a risk of loosing the equipment to customs..
If equipment is "illegal to import/use", they just keep it... Another
problem is if you use illegal frequencies when working in big events like
worldcup/olympics arenas, there are "frequency control cars" out listening
on all frequencies to make sure the big broadcasters don't get any problems
with, or uses illegal equipment/frequencies.. They can make you turn off
illegal systems, or even confiscate it.
When you're the host broadcaster and all your radio-systems collapses
because of an "Italian 1kw transmitter", they are your friend.. If you use
homemade/illegal radio-equipment they're not..

Hans W.
www.haly-tek.com
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Just keep it crystal clear so the dogs will not have any interest with
your frequencies :-)

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"Fernando" <fdi.RemoveThis@ran.es> wrote in message
news:dcfabf52.0402181003.31c7ffcd@posting.google.com...
> I don't know... after Sept 11 they may be very picky and find it in
> your luggage. If you buy second hand, I would ask the seller for a
> signed document saying it has no commercial value, so if any problem
> at customs you show the paper and you should not have to pay taxes nor
> duties. You can add they are radio microphones for personal musical
> use or so, it's easy to understand for them. If they are new you
> better declare at customs and pay the tax and duties, still you are
> saving the shipping costs.
> He he, that is the Spanish way
>
> Amazed by Norway's discipline. I believe in England is similar.
> In big events I just contact the rigt department and ask if there is
> any problem with my freqs and use them or not.
>
> Fernando
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:07:13 +0100, "Hans W."
<oylxmblbobqu RemoveThis @spammotel.com> wrote:

>
>"Richard H" <richhether RemoveThis @eircom.net> wrote
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>
>>Has anyone had problems bringing sound equipment back from the
>> USA, like security problems or importation tax.
>
>Here in Norway there's always a risk of loosing the equipment to customs..
>If equipment is "illegal to import/use", they just keep it...

Strange, because over here you can import almost everything you want,
only you are not allowed to use it.

Roberto





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