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Scott Farr

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:12 am
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Larry

A few months back I had asked about getting 2 of my UCR411A's with
serial numbers in the low 200's firmware updated to 4.0/4.1 and was
told that it wasnt possible at the time by David but he would be
writting that code sometime soon. Is it soon yet? Thank you.

Scott

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:06 am
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Passed along to DT for an update.
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On 4 Dec 2006 00:12:08 -0800, "Scott Farr"
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>Larry
>
>A few months back I had asked about getting 2 of my UCR411A's with
>serial numbers in the low 200's firmware updated to 4.0/4.1 and was
>told that it wasnt possible at the time by David but he would be
>writting that code sometime soon. Is it soon yet? Thank you.
>
>Scott

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:38 pm
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Larry what is the main difference between this and previous version
best
Oleg
"Scott Farr" wrote in message

> Larry
>
> A few months back I had asked about getting 2 of my UCR411A's with
> serial numbers in the low 200's firmware updated to 4.0/4.1 and was
> told that it wasnt possible at the time by David but he would be
> writting that code sometime soon. Is it soon yet? Thank you.
>
> Scott
>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:37 pm
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DT said he'd get to it this month (Dec 06)
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On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:06:06 -0700, Larry Fisher
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>Passed along to DT for an update.
>LarryF
>Lectro
>
>On 4 Dec 2006 00:12:08 -0800, "Scott Farr"
>wrote:
>
>>Larry
>>
>>A few months back I had asked about getting 2 of my UCR411A's with
>>serial numbers in the low 200's firmware updated to 4.0/4.1 and was
>>told that it wasnt possible at the time by David but he would be
>>writting that code sometime soon. Is it soon yet? Thank you.
>>
>>Scott
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:19 pm
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Thanks for the update(s)

Scott


Larry Fisher wrote:
> DT said he'd get to it this month (Dec 06)
> LarryF
> Lectro
>
> On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:06:06 -0700, Larry Fisher
> wrote:
>
> >Passed along to DT for an update.
> >LarryF
> >Lectro
> >
> >On 4 Dec 2006 00:12:08 -0800, "Scott Farr"
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Larry
> >>
> >>A few months back I had asked about getting 2 of my UCR411A's with
> >>serial numbers in the low 200's firmware updated to 4.0/4.1 and was
> >>told that it wasnt possible at the time by David but he would be
> >>writting that code sometime soon. Is it soon yet? Thank you.
> >>
> >>Scott
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:11 am
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Just checking on this one.


Larry Fisher wrote:
> DT said he'd get to it this month (Dec 06)
> LarryF
> Lectro
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> On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:06:06 -0700, Larry Fisher
> wrote:
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> >Passed along to DT for an update.
> >LarryF
> >Lectro
> >
> >On 4 Dec 2006 00:12:08 -0800, "Scott Farr"
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Larry
> >>
> >>A few months back I had asked about getting 2 of my UCR411A's with
> >>serial numbers in the low 200's firmware updated to 4.0/4.1 and was
> >>told that it wasnt possible at the time by David but he would be
> >>writting that code sometime soon. Is it soon yet? Thank you.
> >>
> >>Scott
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:07 pm
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:08 am
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Scott, I'm a little lost here. More than usual even.
LarryF
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On 19 Feb 2007 23:07:37 -0800, "Scott Farr"
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>Larry how are we looking?
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:31 am
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"repost"

Larry

A few months back (Nov. '06) I had asked about getting 2 of my
UCR411A's with serial numbers in the low 200's firmware updated to
4.0/4.1 and was told that it wasn't possible at the time by David T
but he would be writting that code sometime soon. Is it soon yet?
Thank you.

You followed up saying that it would be done by Dec. '06

Scott
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:43 pm
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I think it's done. I'll forward to DT. He's the guy on this one.
LarryF
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On 20 Feb 2007 10:31:41 -0800, "Scott Farr"
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>"repost"
>
>Larry
>
>A few months back (Nov. '06) I had asked about getting 2 of my
>UCR411A's with serial numbers in the low 200's firmware updated to
>4.0/4.1 and was told that it wasn't possible at the time by David T
>but he would be writting that code sometime soon. Is it soon yet?
>Thank you.
>
>You followed up saying that it would be done by Dec. '06
>
>Scott
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:27 pm
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>>>>> "Scott" == Scott Farr writes:

Scott> A few months back (Nov. '06) I had asked about getting 2 of
Scott> my UCR411A's with serial numbers in the low 200's firmware
Scott> updated to 4.0/4.1 and was told that it wasn't possible at
Scott> the time by David T but he would be writting that code
Scott> sometime soon. Is it soon yet? Thank you.

The new audio board backport has now been released and all the
comcomitant paperwork completed. UCR411A units with older audio
boards may now be brought up to date with all the latest features by
installing version 4.1 on the RF board (released earlier,
independently of this event), and version 1.4 on the audio board.
Audio board firmware version 1.4 is new. It causes older audio boards
to behave identically to newer boards running audio board firmware
version 4.0.

David
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If only 2^(7/12) were equal to 3/2, music would sound a lot better.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:06 pm
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Servicing dealers can do the upgrade. It requires a programming gadget
(tuna can) and opening the unit to get to the programming pins. We can
also do it here but the charge is our flat rate charge of $108.75. As
long as we are in the unit, there are about 5 mechanical and
electrical mods that we also do to increase the ruggedness in some
areas. For one instance, the power switch is replaced with a more
current version since the plastic toggle on the old ones has been a
weak point.
Best Regards,
Larry Fisher
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On 21 Feb 2007 08:15:34 -0800, "Mark Calice"
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>What does one have to do to get these updates? Is there a charge?
>
>Ardenwood Sound & DVD
>http://www.ardenwoodsnd-dvd.com
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:04 pm
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I honestly don't get Lectrosonics at all. I have a 744T. It recently
had its firmware updated. I sent it in, and was charged NOTHING to
have it updated. Not even return shipping. I'm guessing they needed
to be "in the unit" also for this upgrade. Probably they are happy I
am a customer, and when they put out a product, they support its
improvements to their current customers. Or perhaps they want us to
buy the keyboard or other accessories which require the new firmware.
Either way, it makes sense.

Lectro, on the other hand, feels they need to charge you to "upgrade"
your 411 receiver? So just because you were one of the first people
to support one of their new products, deal with its growing pains,
etc., you are now penalized for not using your old gear until they
solved the issues with the new gear? Same goes for the SM. In order
to use the remote, which is expensive, you must "update" your older
versions, for a fee. A $600 remote becomes very expensive when you
have to update half a dozen SM.

This said, I did send in my SM, told them NOT to upgrade them if there
was a fee. They did anyway and charged me for it. After a VERY
lengthy discussion with customer service, an accommodation was made.
But shouldn't this just be normal business practice?
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:51 pm
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I dropped of the last two of my UCR411A's that needed to be updated to
the most current firmware version only to find out that my SM's no
longer have the most current firmware. Argh!! it never ends. fingers
crossed that the upgrade goes smoothly
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:38 pm
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Hi Robert,
The UCR411A's that we are talking about here are 4(?) years old. The
revision we are discussing does not fix a factory defect. The
description of the revision from FAQ96 is:
"Allows older audio boards, previously running earlier v1.x firmware,
to be used with the latest RF board firmware. Most notably, this adds
"mode 6" compatibility and slightly quieter diversity switching."

In working on the Venue firmware, DT figured out a little better way
to handle the diversity switch which he then incorporated into the
411A firmware late in 2005. This "upgrade" is not something that you
or we have to do to make the unit work properly. For a further
information about firmware see FAQ #96:
http://www.lectrosonics.com/faq/faq1byref.php?id=96

We have fixed many fundamental defects, RF, firmware and mechanical at
no charge after the warranty has expired when we felt the product was
wrong; this is not one of them.

As far as the SM and remote capability, no SM units were sold with a
promise of a future upgrade to remote capability. They were sold on
the basis of what they were at that moment, not what they could do in
the future.

The SM's that you sent in came in without an RA (return authorization
number) and without a cover letter. We found no notes about the SM's
from our service reps. Our standard procedure in such cases is to fix
the units and get them back to the customer and usually that is the
correct thing to do. In this case, assume we were negligent about note
taking, but agree that we were confused as to what to do with the
units. As you said, we accommodated you on the charges.

I would respectively ask anyone returning units to the factory to get
an RA and put it on the package. It's a free phone call and reduces
confusion. From this end, I will try to make sure that our service
people always provide one.

Best Regards,
Larry Fisher
Lectrosonics



On 22 Feb 2007 20:04:38 -0800, "Robert Sharman"
wrote:

>
>I honestly don't get Lectrosonics at all. I have a 744T. It recently
>had its firmware updated. I sent it in, and was charged NOTHING to
>have it updated. Not even return shipping. I'm guessing they needed
>to be "in the unit" also for this upgrade. Probably they are happy I
>am a customer, and when they put out a product, they support its
>improvements to their current customers. Or perhaps they want us to
>buy the keyboard or other accessories which require the new firmware.
>Either way, it makes sense.
>
>Lectro, on the other hand, feels they need to charge you to "upgrade"
>your 411 receiver? So just because you were one of the first people
>to support one of their new products, deal with its growing pains,
>etc., you are now penalized for not using your old gear until they
>solved the issues with the new gear? Same goes for the SM. In order
>to use the remote, which is expensive, you must "update" your older
>versions, for a fee. A $600 remote becomes very expensive when you
>have to update half a dozen SM.
>
>This said, I did send in my SM, told them NOT to upgrade them if there
>was a fee. They did anyway and charged me for it. After a VERY
>lengthy discussion with customer service, an accommodation was made.
>But shouldn't this just be normal business practice?
>
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