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Colin Swan

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 2:25 am
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Which is the best sounding Lectrosonics reciever,transmitter,mic
combination, at present.
I need to buy 2 new systems with mini transmitters for a comedy series.
My current systems are a 195d's. Getting old now.
What are the digital ones like?
Regards Colin

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Fernando

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 6:16 am
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Hi Colin,

I'm very happy with the 400 series. I owned 200 before and was happy
too, but this is a real upgrade.
The 400 sounds cristal clear, the TX lasts for 10h with a single
lithium 9V (9,5h non-stop before first warning!) and the RX about 16h
in my tests. I even "hard-tested" the limiter of the system and is
velvet soft. The display on the RX is very informative and the graphic
interface useful and complete.
That is based on my experience.
For better hiding you may use pouches for TXs and remove the clip.
Anyway I love that clip, it's extremely efficient and rugged.
For mic combinations there are many diferent likes... I have one B6
and one COS11 for each system.
I prefer the sound of the COS11 and that it's cable is very resistant,
but I use the B6 often because of it's size and colour caps, I let the
capsule outside the clothes or hide it on talent's hair with excelent
results. The cable of the B6 is much more fragile so you need to take
more care of it than the COS11's.

Fernando

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Larry Fisher

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 12:42 pm
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Hi Colin,
Comparing 100, 200 and 400 products, the 400 series is the best
sounding. IMHO, the differences between well setup 195's or 200's and
the 400 series are small though others think I have gravel between my
ears.The 400 series is definitely more tolerant of non-optimum gain
settings and has a better limitter. I'm hoping that in the long run
they will be more dependable than the 195 and 200 series because we
got rid of the Damned pilot tone crystals. Maybe the pilot tone
crystals weren't the Achilles' heel of the older system but they were
certainly the Achilles' toenail.

Given the 400 series as the audio choice, the UCR411 is currently the
only receiver. As far as the 400 transmitters go, the audio specs and
RF circuity are identical with a few small exceptions which I'll list
later. In general, the distortion, preamp noise, audio response and RF
power is the same. So my recommendation is to pick the package style
and input connection that is most useful for you. Here's a list of
minor electrical differences that might also influence a decision:

MM400- 2 wire micro plug input, no on-off switch, uses AA batteries
instead of 9 Volt..

LM- no circulator in output stage, power spec'd at "more than 50
mW", 5 pin input, fixed antenna.

UH400- 3 pin XLR input and 48 Volt phantom power.

UM400- Instead of fixed 60 Hz low end roll off like others, it is
adjustable from 30 to 180 Hz. 5 pin input

All go beyond 20 kHz on the top end, all except LM are 100 mW, all are
hard on batteries though the LM is a little better, all have same
limitter, same distortion specs and all are instantly destroyed by
salt water, other than the MM.

Hopefully this will cut down on the amount of specs in the data sheets
you have to dig through. It should then boil down to packaging
differences.

Best Regards,
Larry F
Lectro


On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 02:25:13 GMT, "Colin Swan" <cswan DeleteThis @bigpond.net.au>
wrote:

>Which is the best sounding Lectrosonics reciever,transmitter,mic
>combination, at present.
>I need to buy 2 new systems with mini transmitters for a comedy series.
>My current systems are a 195d's. Getting old now.
>What are the digital ones like?
>Regards Colin
>
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Colin Swan

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 12:11 am
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Hi Larry
Whats the difference between the MM400 and the MM 400a
Regards Colin Swan
"Larry Fisher" <larrylectro.RemoveThis@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:ag14c0l8i61ri02fuqr2ab9nkj2k3mb87s@4ax.com...
> Hi Colin,
> Comparing 100, 200 and 400 products, the 400 series is the best
> sounding. IMHO, the differences between well setup 195's or 200's and
> the 400 series are small though others think I have gravel between my
> ears.The 400 series is definitely more tolerant of non-optimum gain
> settings and has a better limitter. I'm hoping that in the long run
> they will be more dependable than the 195 and 200 series because we
> got rid of the Damned pilot tone crystals. Maybe the pilot tone
> crystals weren't the Achilles' heel of the older system but they were
> certainly the Achilles' toenail.
>
> Given the 400 series as the audio choice, the UCR411 is currently the
> only receiver. As far as the 400 transmitters go, the audio specs and
> RF circuity are identical with a few small exceptions which I'll list
> later. In general, the distortion, preamp noise, audio response and RF
> power is the same. So my recommendation is to pick the package style
> and input connection that is most useful for you. Here's a list of
> minor electrical differences that might also influence a decision:
>
> MM400- 2 wire micro plug input, no on-off switch, uses AA batteries
> instead of 9 Volt..
>
> LM- no circulator in output stage, power spec'd at "more than 50
> mW", 5 pin input, fixed antenna.
>
> UH400- 3 pin XLR input and 48 Volt phantom power.
>
> UM400- Instead of fixed 60 Hz low end roll off like others, it is
> adjustable from 30 to 180 Hz. 5 pin input
>
> All go beyond 20 kHz on the top end, all except LM are 100 mW, all are
> hard on batteries though the LM is a little better, all have same
> limitter, same distortion specs and all are instantly destroyed by
> salt water, other than the MM.
>
> Hopefully this will cut down on the amount of specs in the data sheets
> you have to dig through. It should then boil down to packaging
> differences.
>
> Best Regards,
> Larry F
> Lectro
>
>
> On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 02:25:13 GMT, "Colin Swan" <cswan.RemoveThis@bigpond.net.au>
> wrote:
>
> >Which is the best sounding Lectrosonics reciever,transmitter,mic
> >combination, at present.
> >I need to buy 2 new systems with mini transmitters for a comedy series.
> >My current systems are a 195d's. Getting old now.
> >What are the digital ones like?
> >Regards Colin
> >
>
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G. John Garrett, CAS

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 12:11 am
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Colin Swan wrote:

> Hi Larry
> Whats the difference between the MM400 and the MM 400a
> Regards Colin Swan


Or the UCR400 and UCR400a, for that matter!

Best,
John
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Larry Fisher

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 10:49 am
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Hi Colin and John,
The MM400 was a fairly heavy lump of stainless and the MM400a is a
much lighter Nickel-Teflon plated aluminum. While we were changing the
case over, we added the emulation modes for the 100, 200 and S brand
wireless. There were no hardware or performance differences other than
the case.

The UCR411 and UCR411a differences were due to the addition of a
microprocessor with a lot more memory so we could add the multiple
emulations. The larger memory space also allowed us to add the stored
pre co-coordinated frequency groups and the transmitter battery timer.
There were no performance differences.

As always, there are other little tweaks to the code and hardware, to
improve performance but these are usually pretty small advances and
aren't reflected in a model number change..

Best Regards,
Larry F
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On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 21:29:18 -0400, "G. John Garrett, CAS"
<jgarrett.TakeThisOut@world.std.comREMOVE> wrote:

>Colin Swan wrote:
>
>> Hi Larry
>> Whats the difference between the MM400 and the MM 400a
>> Regards Colin Swan
>
>
>Or the UCR400 and UCR400a, for that matter!
>
>Best,
>John
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G. John Garrett, CAS

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 5:45 pm
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Larry Fisher wrote:
> Hi Colin and John,
> The MM400 was a fairly heavy lump of stainless and the MM400a is a
> much lighter Nickel-Teflon plated aluminum. While we were changing the


Thanks Larry!

John
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