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jeff c

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:58 pm
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Hello All, Hello Larry F.

i am wondering if it is possible to use one tx and two receivers in
the lectro 185's 195's fixed freq and the freq agile units as well...
the last time I used a one tx two rx set up to feed two cameras it was
an audio ltd system owned by someone else.

I am now wondering if there are any caveats using two 411a's and one
TX in particular as I recall someone telling me it needed to have some
RF magic tuning performed on the rx end with the older fixed units...

Confused

ThX
Jeff C

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:54 pm
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jeff c wrote:
> Hello All, Hello Larry F.
>
> i am wondering if it is possible to use one tx and two receivers in
> the lectro 185's 195's fixed freq and the freq agile units as well...
> the last time I used a one tx two rx set up to feed two cameras it was
> an audio ltd system owned by someone else.
>
> I am now wondering if there are any caveats using two 411a's and one
> TX in particular as I recall someone telling me it needed to have some
> RF magic tuning performed on the rx end with the older fixed units...
>
> Confused
>
> ThX
> Jeff C
>
Jeff,

You can't use the 411a with the 185 system as they are VHF and the
411a is UHF. Nor can you use it with the 190 system as they are
narrow-band (15Khz Dev). You could use the 411a with a 195 system, if
the 195 freq is on the 100Khz. For example if the 195 freq is 549.100 or
549.200 it would be possible to use it with the 411a. If the 195 freq
ends in an odd number, say 549.125, or 549.575, it would not be usable
with the 411a. If the 195 is on a good freq, just set the 411a to the
200 mode and it should work.

David White
D.W. Sound Service

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:44 pm
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Thanks for the replies. I want to clarify that when I stated 185 or
190's I was wondering in you could have one 185tx and two 185rx or the
same with 187 190 195... I did not want to imply mixing vhf and uhf
systems... just what goes on with similar models in this config. I
am hoping Larry f. will chime in on this as i have a beer and my
career riding on his answer... :)

ThX

Jeff C
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:34 am
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On Aug 29, 7:10 am, Larry Fisher <Lectroson....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Oleg,
> You can set any step for any frequency in the unit's range. It does
> require a programmer module which servicing dealers have. The
> programmer module, software and cable are available from Lectro. I'm
> not sure of the total cost (I'm at home) but it's under $200.
>
> Venue can be done through the USB port.
>
> Best Regards,
> Larry F
>
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:05:14 +0300, "oleg kaizerman"
>
> <kaize....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >"oleg kaizerman" <kaize....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:fb3128$17sg$1@sxnews1.qg.com...
> >> odd fq on 195 and same block to work with 200/400
> >> or send the 400 for fq bank chaqnge so it will have 195 fq
> >sorry even fq on 195 (100,200,300)
> >or the 400 bank (i think the first 9 fq could be set at factory for what
> >you need inside the block)

Many thanks Larry... unfortunately, I lose this time. But you have
clarified a few nagging curiosities.

Jeff * weeps while icing down an O'douls ;)
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:17 am
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Damn Jeff,
I didn't realize which side of the bet you were on; I would have
changed the story if I had known!
LarryF
Lectro

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 05:34:01 -0700, jeff c <soundmixer77 DeleteThis @gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Aug 29, 7:10 am, Larry Fisher <Lectroson... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Oleg,
>> You can set any step for any frequency in the unit's range. It does
>> require a programmer module which servicing dealers have. The
>> programmer module, software and cable are available from Lectro. I'm
>> not sure of the total cost (I'm at home) but it's under $200.
>>
>> Venue can be done through the USB port.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Larry F
>>
>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:05:14 +0300, "oleg kaizerman"
>>
>> <kaize... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >"oleg kaizerman" <kaize... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:fb3128$17sg$1@sxnews1.qg.com...
>> >> odd fq on 195 and same block to work with 200/400
>> >> or send the 400 for fq bank chaqnge so it will have 195 fq
>> >sorry even fq on 195 (100,200,300)
>> >or the 400 bank (i think the first 9 fq could be set at factory for what
>> >you need inside the block)
>
>Many thanks Larry... unfortunately, I lose this time. But you have
>clarified a few nagging curiosities.
>
>Jeff * weeps while icing down an O'douls ;)
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:53 am
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odd fq on 195 and same block to work with 200/400
or send the 400 for fq bank chaqnge so it will have 195 fq
"jeff c" <soundmixer77 RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1188345511.279140.122340@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> Hello All, Hello Larry F.
>
> i am wondering if it is possible to use one tx and two receivers in
> the lectro 185's 195's fixed freq and the freq agile units as well...
> the last time I used a one tx two rx set up to feed two cameras it was
> an audio ltd system owned by someone else.
>
> I am now wondering if there are any caveats using two 411a's and one
> TX in particular as I recall someone telling me it needed to have some
> RF magic tuning performed on the rx end with the older fixed units...
>
> Confused
>
> ThX
> Jeff C
>
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:05 am
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"oleg kaizerman" <kaizero1.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> odd fq on 195 and same block to work with 200/400
> or send the 400 for fq bank chaqnge so it will have 195 fq
sorry even fq on 195 (100,200,300)
or the 400 bank (i think the first 9 fq could be set at factory for what
you need inside the block)
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:05 am
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Hi Jeff,
Yes, you can always use one transmitter with two receivers; think of
one FM radio station and thousands of car radios all listening to the
same commercial (is there anything else on radio?). The transmitter
does have to have to be compatible with the two receivers, of course.
Two CR185's on 169.505 MHz would have to be used with one M185 (M187)
on 169.505.

As Oleg pointed out, you can program the 400 series to work on "odd"
195 series frequencies without having to modify ($$$) the 195. For
instance, you could dedicate the 0,0 setting on a UM400 to a 25 kHz
step such as 600.025 with all the other settings being normal or the
same for a 400 series receiver.

Enjoy your beer.
Best Regards,
Larry F

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:05:14 +0300, "oleg kaizerman"
<kaizero1.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>"oleg kaizerman" <kaizero1.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:fb3128$17sg$1@sxnews1.qg.com...
>> odd fq on 195 and same block to work with 200/400
>> or send the 400 for fq bank chaqnge so it will have 195 fq
>sorry even fq on 195 (100,200,300)
>or the 400 bank (i think the first 9 fq could be set at factory for what
>you need inside the block)
>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:05 am
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Hi Oleg,
You can set any step for any frequency in the unit's range. It does
require a programmer module which servicing dealers have. The
programmer module, software and cable are available from Lectro. I'm
not sure of the total cost (I'm at home) but it's under $200.

Venue can be done through the USB port.

Best Regards,
Larry F

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:05:14 +0300, "oleg kaizerman"
<kaizero1.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>"oleg kaizerman" <kaizero1.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:fb3128$17sg$1@sxnews1.qg.com...
>> odd fq on 195 and same block to work with 200/400
>> or send the 400 for fq bank chaqnge so it will have 195 fq
>sorry even fq on 195 (100,200,300)
>or the 400 bank (i think the first 9 fq could be set at factory for what
>you need inside the block)
>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:40 am
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On Aug 29, 9:17 am, Larry Fisher <lectroson....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> Damn Jeff,
> I didn't realize which side of the bet you were on; I would have
> changed the story if I had known!
> LarryF
> Lectro
>
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 05:34:01 -0700, jeff c <soundmixe....RemoveThis@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Aug 29, 7:10 am, Larry Fisher <Lectroson....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi Oleg,
> >> You can set any step for any frequency in the unit's range. It does
> >> require a programmer module which servicing dealers have. The
> >> programmer module, software and cable are available from Lectro. I'm
> >> not sure of the total cost (I'm at home) but it's under $200.
>
> >> Venue can be done through the USB port.
>
> >> Best Regards,
> >> Larry F
>
> >> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:05:14 +0300, "oleg kaizerman"
>
> >> <kaize....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >"oleg kaizerman" <kaize....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:fb3128$17sg$1@sxnews1.qg.com...
> >> >> odd fq on 195 and same block to work with 200/400
> >> >> or send the 400 for fq bank chaqnge so it will have 195 fq
> >> >sorry even fq on 195 (100,200,300)
> >> >or the 400 bank (i think the first 9 fq could be set at factory for what
> >> >you need inside the block)
>
> >Many thanks Larry... unfortunately, I lose this time. But you have
> >clarified a few nagging curiosities.
>
> >Jeff * weeps while icing down an O'douls ;)

LOL... I sure appreciate the information and willingness to "fix it"
regardless, from you and the crew at Lectro. You gurys have always
been there for me...well cept for the tshirt deal ;(

I just picked up another 411 and sm system...should be interesting
to play mix and match... at least all my systems are on block 86d
(cyan) :p

I have had some private flames for this one. I guess , You ask a dumb
question and sometimes, sho nuff, the shoe fits.

At least on the second anniversary of the 'Storm" I am finally off for
a few... The Potus just left for Mississppi after his obligitory
photo op in NOLA... irony is; the cost of flying air force one for a
day would probably be enough to re-build the whole dern 9th ward...

All best to all for a safe and happy LABOR day... and remember the
"reason" for the "Season"...

Jeff C... certified rf dummy load
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:51 pm
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hi Larry , how many fq you can reprogram on the 400?
is it for all tx and rx ?


"Larry Fisher" <Lectrosonics.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4cnad3l9j28s51e3sv7jrdv9j3hfab9uiv@4ax.com...
> Hi Jeff,
> Yes, you can always use one transmitter with two receivers; think of
> one FM radio station and thousands of car radios all listening to the
> same commercial (is there anything else on radio?). The transmitter
> does have to have to be compatible with the two receivers, of course.
> Two CR185's on 169.505 MHz would have to be used with one M185 (M187)
> on 169.505.
>
> As Oleg pointed out, you can program the 400 series to work on "odd"
> 195 series frequencies without having to modify ($$$) the 195. For
> instance, you could dedicate the 0,0 setting on a UM400 to a 25 kHz
> step such as 600.025 with all the other settings being normal or the
> same for a 400 series receiver.
>
> Enjoy your beer.
> Best Regards,
> Larry F
>
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:05:14 +0300, "oleg kaizerman"
> <kaizero1.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"oleg kaizerman" <kaizero1.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:fb3128$17sg$1@sxnews1.qg.com...
>>> odd fq on 195 and same block to work with 200/400
>>> or send the 400 for fq bank chaqnge so it will have 195 fq
>>sorry even fq on 195 (100,200,300)
>>or the 400 bank (i think the first 9 fq could be set at factory for what
>>you need inside the block)
>>
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:51 pm
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Hi Oleg,
All 256 memory locations can be re-programmed on all 400 series. I
know everything can be setup in 25 kHz steps and, as I remember, some
units can be setup in 3.125 kHz intervals, depending on the PLL.

They can be programmed at random and can even be programmed with
duplicate frequencies. You have to stay inside the block frequencies,
of course. For instance, the first 16 memory locations could be the
brand S group A and the second 16 could be the brand S group B
frequencies. The rest of the 224 locations could be the remaining
Lectro block or cleared and not "available". We do that already on
block 23 for the astronomical frequencies and block off 608 through
614 MHz.
Best Regards,
Larry Fisher
Lectrosonics

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:51:21 +0300, "oleg kaizerman"
<kaizero1 RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

>hi Larry , how many fq you can reprogram on the 400?
>is it for all tx and rx ?
>
>
>"Larry Fisher" <Lectrosonics RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:4cnad3l9j28s51e3sv7jrdv9j3hfab9uiv@4ax.com...
>> Hi Jeff,
>> Yes, you can always use one transmitter with two receivers; think of
>> one FM radio station and thousands of car radios all listening to the
>> same commercial (is there anything else on radio?). The transmitter
>> does have to have to be compatible with the two receivers, of course.
>> Two CR185's on 169.505 MHz would have to be used with one M185 (M187)
>> on 169.505.
>>
>> As Oleg pointed out, you can program the 400 series to work on "odd"
>> 195 series frequencies without having to modify ($$$) the 195. For
>> instance, you could dedicate the 0,0 setting on a UM400 to a 25 kHz
>> step such as 600.025 with all the other settings being normal or the
>> same for a 400 series receiver.
>>
>> Enjoy your beer.
>> Best Regards,
>> Larry F
>>
>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:05:14 +0300, "oleg kaizerman"
>> <kaizero1 RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"oleg kaizerman" <kaizero1 RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:fb3128$17sg$1@sxnews1.qg.com...
>>>> odd fq on 195 and same block to work with 200/400
>>>> or send the 400 for fq bank chaqnge so it will have 195 fq
>>>sorry even fq on 195 (100,200,300)
>>>or the 400 bank (i think the first 9 fq could be set at factory for what
>>>you need inside the block)
>>>
>
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:30 pm
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thanks

"Larry Fisher" <lectrosonics.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Oleg,
> All 256 memory locations can be re-programmed on all 400 series. I
> know everything can be setup in 25 kHz steps and, as I remember, some
> units can be setup in 3.125 kHz intervals, depending on the PLL.
>
> They can be programmed at random and can even be programmed with
> duplicate frequencies. You have to stay inside the block frequencies,
> of course. For instance, the first 16 memory locations could be the
> brand S group A and the second 16 could be the brand S group B
> frequencies. The rest of the 224 locations could be the remaining
> Lectro block or cleared and not "available". We do that already on
> block 23 for the astronomical frequencies and block off 608 through
> 614 MHz.
> Best Regards,
> Larry Fisher
> Lectrosonics
>
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:51:21 +0300, "oleg kaizerman"
> <kaizero1.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>hi Larry , how many fq you can reprogram on the 400?
>>is it for all tx and rx ?
>>
>>
>>"Larry Fisher" <Lectrosonics.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:4cnad3l9j28s51e3sv7jrdv9j3hfab9uiv@4ax.com...
>>> Hi Jeff,
>>> Yes, you can always use one transmitter with two receivers; think of
>>> one FM radio station and thousands of car radios all listening to the
>>> same commercial (is there anything else on radio?). The transmitter
>>> does have to have to be compatible with the two receivers, of course.
>>> Two CR185's on 169.505 MHz would have to be used with one M185 (M187)
>>> on 169.505.
>>>
>>> As Oleg pointed out, you can program the 400 series to work on "odd"
>>> 195 series frequencies without having to modify ($$$) the 195. For
>>> instance, you could dedicate the 0,0 setting on a UM400 to a 25 kHz
>>> step such as 600.025 with all the other settings being normal or the
>>> same for a 400 series receiver.
>>>
>>> Enjoy your beer.
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Larry F
>>>
>>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:05:14 +0300, "oleg kaizerman"
>>> <kaizero1.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"oleg kaizerman" <kaizero1.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:fb3128$17sg$1@sxnews1.qg.com...
>>>>> odd fq on 195 and same block to work with 200/400
>>>>> or send the 400 for fq bank chaqnge so it will have 195 fq
>>>>sorry even fq on 195 (100,200,300)
>>>>or the 400 bank (i think the first 9 fq could be set at factory for
>>>>what
>>>>you need inside the block)
>>>>
>>
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