Lectrosonics R1 IFB Receiver

Let's say I have three subjects with um200's on, will a producer be
able to listen in to those tx's with an R1?
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On Mar 24, 7:53 pm, Marc <marcpaque....RemoveThis@excite.com> wrote:
> Let's say I have three subjects with um200's on, will a producer be
> able to listen in to those tx's with an R1?

I don't think so... besides how are you planning to "mix" tree
different transmitters on a single receiver?

~
s.
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I think the idea was for the producer to be able to switch channels on
his/her IFB receiver back and forth between 3 transmitters.

I don't think you can do it...and it isn't very practical or easy to
switch back and forth. A more efficient device would be a scanner
with the 3 freq's pre-programmed.

-Jason

On Mar 24, 9:00 pm, Sergio Sanmiguel <soundsorce....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 24, 7:53 pm, Marc <marcpaque....DeleteThis@excite.com> wrote:
>
> > Let's say I have three subjects with um200's on, will a producer be
> > able to listen in to those tx's with an R1?
>
> I don't think so... besides how are you planning to "mix" tree
> different transmitters on a single receiver?
>
> ~
> s.
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You got the idea Jason. That's kind of what I was wondering. ok, Put
aside the idea of having multiple tx's then, it's confusing things.
Put simply, will the R1 pick up a um200?
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>
> No. The UM200's don't transmit the right "Pilot" tone to open the
> squelch on the R1's.

Thanks Matt!
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On Mar 25, 8:45 am, Marc <marcpaque....RemoveThis@excite.com> wrote:
> Quick question. Can/does the R1 receive a signal from any "non-
> digital hybrid" Lectro
> transmiter in the same block, or must it be used with a T1 / LM ?

Marc,

Heres one brilliant but practically not so brilliant idea I came
across. Using a UCR411a tie together with a passive HP pre. Set the
freq. of different TXs on the User Grp. of the 411, the producer can
switch around different talent and tune into all the UM TX in the same
block.

When the producers see the monster rig they refuse to carry it :)

Alan
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On Mar 25, 9:09 am, Jason Porter <sound.mi... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> I think the idea was for the producer to be able to switch channels on
> his/her IFB receiver back and forth between 3 transmitters.
>
> I don't think you can do it...and it isn't very practical or easy to
> switch back and forth. A more efficient device would be a scanner
> with the 3 freq's pre-programmed.
>
> -Jason
>

I have to say in this issue, this is what Sennheiser G2 series is good
at, the 100 or 500 series TX can all be tune into using the 300 series
IEM and switchable to different TX using the user grp.

Something for Lectro to think about after the NAB??

Alan
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Marc wrote:
> Let's say I have three subjects with um200's on, will a producer be
> able to listen in to those tx's with an R1?

Marc,

No. The UM200's don't transmit the right "Pilot" tone to open the
squelch on the R1's.

Best thing to do would be to buy an inexpensive scanner and program the
three frequencies in there so the producer can dial back and forth.

---Matt
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On Mar 24, 6:18 pm, Marc <marcpaque... DeleteThis @excite.com> wrote:
> You got the idea Jason. That's kind of what I was wondering. ok, Put
> aside the idea of having multiple tx's then, it's confusing things.
> Put simply, will the R1 pick up a um200?

Hey Marc,

I know your question has been answered now, but I want to clarify a
few things. Later UM400, MM400 and SM transmitters have an IFB mode
(the UMs and MMs blink 5 times), but then they ARE and IFB transmitter
and the 411 will not pick it up (unless it is also in IFB mode: not
400 mode). It's one or the other. The 200 series transmitters do not
do this.

On Mar 24, 6:09 pm, Jason Porter <sound.mi... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> I think the idea was for the producer to be able to switch channels on
> his/her IFB receiver back and forth between 3 transmitters.
>
> I don't think you can do it...and it isn't very practical or easy to
> switch back and forth. A more efficient device would be a scanner
> with the 3 freq's pre-programmed.
>
> -Jason

With IFB transmitters, usually on bag rigs, this is EXACTLY what the
R1a does. This is why mixers don't use Comteks on multi-sound mixer
shoots. R1a can scan and lock in up to 5 transmitters and toggle
between them with the push of a button.

On Mar 24, 7:20 pm, Matt Mayer <m... DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote:
> Marc wrote:
> > Let's say I have three subjects with um200's on, will a producer be
> > able to listen in to those tx's with an R1?
>
> Marc,
>
> No. The UM200's don't transmit the right "Pilot" tone to open the
> squelch on the R1's.
>
> Best thing to do would be to buy an inexpensive scanner and program the
> three frequencies in there so the producer can dial back and forth.
>
> ---Matt
A popular choice is the iComm, but it can also drive you nuts. Best
when programmed (must be with a computer) and all controls but volume
and freq toggle are locked out. They are cheap, but if you re-freq a
transmitter, the iComm must be reprogrammed and if you leave it
unlocked the producer will get into other menus, frequency bands, etc.
and it is a huge hassle.

Hope this helps.

PG
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thanks everyone. Much appreciated answers.
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On Mar 25, 11:10 am, Marc <marcpaque....TakeThisOut@excite.com> wrote:
> thanks everyone. Much appreciated answers.

Maybe you can feed 3 LM's out of a SD442 direct outputs and therefor
accomplish what you need...
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"Matt Mayer" <matt RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Marc wrote:
>> Let's say I have three subjects with um200's on, will a producer be
>> able to listen in to those tx's with an R1?
>
> Marc,
>
> No. The UM200's don't transmit the right "Pilot" tone to open the squelch
> on the R1's.

You not only have the pilot tone issue, you have a deviation issue. The
deviation on the UM200 is wideband (75Khz), and the R1 is a Narrowband
(20Khz).

David W White
D.W. Sound Service
www.dwsoundservice.com
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Only one thing to add to all the good info here. The IFB is a single
band pre-emphasized compander system and the 200 is a flat, two band
compander. This is why we deliberately chose different pilot tone
frequencies back then for the IFB and the 200's. We didn't want them
to turn each other on and cause confusion as to why mixed systems
sounded so tonally unbalanced and overloaded.
LarryF
Lectro

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:54:53 GMT, "David White"
<davew.RemoveThis@dwsoundservice.com> wrote:

>
>
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>> Marc wrote:
>>> Let's say I have three subjects with um200's on, will a producer be
>>> able to listen in to those tx's with an R1?
>>
>> Marc,
>>
>> No. The UM200's don't transmit the right "Pilot" tone to open the squelch
>> on the R1's.
>
>You not only have the pilot tone issue, you have a deviation issue. The
>deviation on the UM200 is wideband (75Khz), and the R1 is a Narrowband
>(20Khz).
>
>David W White
>D.W. Sound Service
>www.dwsoundservice.com
>
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