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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:50 pm
Post subject: Metacorder computer
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Anybody using the Metacorder software and anything other than a
PowerBook / MacBook Pro?
My company had been using Metacorder with a 17" PowerBook when the
computer's logic board died. The company is now looking to replace the
computer. I've heard of folks using Mac Mini's with touch-screens. And
besides, a new MacBook (the old iBook) is supposedly more powerful than
a year old+ pre-Intel PowerBook (right/wrong?). And besides, how much
processor speed and RAM do you need to record multi-track audio?
I'm all for the latest greatest when it makes sense. But for a computer
that's designated soley to multi-track with Metacorder software, would
the extra power of the MacBook Pro do any better than a cheaper Mac
like the Mac Mini or MacBook?
Personally, I've owned a PowerBook and an iBook, and I have found the
iBook to be more reliable (but then it's newer and running OS X versus
OS 9).
Thanks in advance for all the opinions and input,
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:06 pm
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Jason Miller wrote:
> Anybody using the Metacorder software and anything other than a
> PowerBook / MacBook Pro?
>
> My company had been using Metacorder with a 17" PowerBook when the
> computer's logic board died. The company is now looking to replace the
> computer. I've heard of folks using Mac Mini's with touch-screens. And
> besides, a new MacBook (the old iBook) is supposedly more powerful than
> a year old+ pre-Intel PowerBook (right/wrong?). And besides, how much
> processor speed and RAM do you need to record multi-track audio?
>
> I'm all for the latest greatest when it makes sense. But for a computer
> that's designated soley to multi-track with Metacorder software, would
> the extra power of the MacBook Pro do any better than a cheaper Mac
> like the Mac Mini or MacBook?
>
> Personally, I've owned a PowerBook and an iBook, and I have found the
> iBook to be more reliable (but then it's newer and running OS X versus
> OS 9).
>
> Thanks in advance for all the opinions and input,
> Jason
Jason,
I have been using Metacorder on the new Black MacBook.
2Ghz intel core duo.
1Gb RAM installed. (upgraded from the out of the box 512)
Only multitracked 8 tracks so far at 48k/24bit.
But no real problems to speak of. Actually very fast and very reliable.
If I had to jump to more than 10 tracks I think I'd want more RAM.
But yes, I have also heard that something like my new MacBook is indeed
more powerful than a year+ pre-intel powerbook.
Obviously depends on how tricked out each system is, though.
Once we installed the software on my Macbook, the guys at Gotham Sound
noted how much faster everything worked on this new intel core duo
system.
That is the only comparison of old vs new I have for you.
Dave |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 5:07 am
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Hey Jason,
I've been using Metacorder with my MacMini for the last two years with
no problems at all.I control it from a touch sensitive Xenarc screen as
well as a mouse and keyboard , both bluetooth so no cable clutter. It's
all powered dc from an 18 volt dc to dc step-up and time-code comes
from my Deva V. Input signals come from either my Onyx board with the
firewire option or a MetricHalo Mobile I/O 2882.
Best,
Tom Williams
Jason Miller wrote:
> Anybody using the Metacorder software and anything other than a
> PowerBook / MacBook Pro?
>
> My company had been using Metacorder with a 17" PowerBook when the
> computer's logic board died. The company is now looking to replace the
> computer. I've heard of folks using Mac Mini's with touch-screens. And
> besides, a new MacBook (the old iBook) is supposedly more powerful than
> a year old+ pre-Intel PowerBook (right/wrong?). And besides, how much
> processor speed and RAM do you need to record multi-track audio?
>
> I'm all for the latest greatest when it makes sense. But for a computer
> that's designated soley to multi-track with Metacorder software, would
> the extra power of the MacBook Pro do any better than a cheaper Mac
> like the Mac Mini or MacBook?
>
> Personally, I've owned a PowerBook and an iBook, and I have found the
> iBook to be more reliable (but then it's newer and running OS X versus
> OS 9).
>
> Thanks in advance for all the opinions and input,
> Jason >> Stay informed about: Metacorder computer |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:42 pm
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What's up Jason, any system in good condition running OSX, with 1 G of
RAM will work beautifully. Higher track count begins to play into which
processor to use, but 16 and less tracks is very easy for a solid
system set up and operated correctly.
16+ = MacBook Pro with 1+ G RAM
16- = anything within 2 years old running a clean OSX, with 1 G RAM
8- = any mac running a clean OSX recording to external drive
Which drive you are recording to has a very big part in how the
computer handles higher track counts. My rule is anything over 8 tracks
and you should always record to an external drive. I NEVER record to
the system partition. Occasionally I record to the 'other' partition,
on the internal drive.
System MUST always be kept clean (separate partition for iPhoto/iTunes
use) if you want a reliable in the field system. I have been
partitioning the internal drive into 2 separations for years, and have
run it like this on 6 different machines. All running OSX. Don't even
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:56 pm
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Jason Miller wrote:
> I'm all for the latest greatest when it makes sense. But for a computer
> that's designated soley to multi-track with Metacorder software, would
> the extra power of the MacBook Pro do any better than a cheaper Mac
> like the Mac Mini or MacBook?
I did some computer shopping recently...the principal difference
between MacBook regular and MacBook "Pro" seems to be a better graphics
chipset in the "Pro" and a fancier screen on the MacBook Pro. In other
words, if you're just using the computer for audio and not video, the
differences should be minimal to nonexistent.
Of course, there are variations with both computers in terms of
processor speed, drive capacity and functionality, etc which should be
taken into account.
At the time of my purchase (a couple months ago) there was also still a
widely reported overheating issue with the "Pro" units that had not yet
been resolved.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:25 pm
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Jason,
I have been using a MacMini with Xenarc 10.5" touchscreen for nearly
two years. Mainly switched to the Mini to save valuable real estate on
my cart. It works perfectly- I've never had any problems with my
set-up. (Although I don't use the usb touchscreen function...MC
"buttons" are too small for my liking and I'm kind of a keyboard person
anyway.) I use a Newer Technology powered FW/USB hub and have all AC
powered components (HDs, DVD-RAM burner etc.) into a 1000V/A USP.
I still keep my G4 12" Powerbook nearby as a back up (and to fool
around on at work:-)
Hope this helps.
Dave >> Stay informed about: Metacorder computer |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 1:03 pm
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tomwill01.DeleteThis@earthlink.net wrote:
> It's all powered dc from an 18 volt dc to dc step-up and time-code comes
> from my Deva V.
Hi Tom,
What brand of 12 to 18 volt step up converter do you use?
Thanks
David Madigan
Metacorder/Mac Mini/Xenarc 15" screen/Sonosax SX-STD >> Stay informed about: Metacorder computer |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:43 am
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Hey David,
I think the brand I of 12 to 18 volt step up I'm using is from a
company called Carnetix. They are one of a number of companies that
make converters for the computer- in -car crowd , where the MacMini
seems to be a very popular method of keeping all your music and video
with you in your automobile. I would like to know how you fare, please
keep me informed with your progress.
Best,
Tom Williams C.A.S.
David Madigan wrote:
> tomwill01 RemoveThis @earthlink.net wrote:
> > It's all powered dc from an 18 volt dc to dc step-up and time-code comes
> > from my Deva V.
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> What brand of 12 to 18 volt step up converter do you use?
>
> Thanks
>
> David Madigan
> Metacorder/Mac Mini/Xenarc 15" screen/Sonosax SX-STD >> Stay informed about: Metacorder computer |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:48 pm
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Thanks for all the info. When it came down to it, it wasn't my computer
to buy. Therefore I suggested the MacBook Pro with the upgraded 7200
RPM internal harddrive. The 7200 wasn't in stock at the local store, so
they bought the 5400.
By the way, Gallery makes Metacorder for Universal Binary. Unless you
bought Metacorder since February of 2006, it'll cost $300 (which is
reasonable in my opinion).
I agree with you about partitioning and not recording on your internal,
Jethro. It's the same with Pro-Tools. You don't want to record onto the
same drive.
Thanks again to all who contributed.
- Jason >> Stay informed about: Metacorder computer |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:29 am
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I Dave ,
I am considering the Xenarc 10.5 screen for my cart with a mini mac .
How do you find the size and the resolution .
regards
Tony Johnson
piasa_sound wrote:
> Jason,
>
> I have been using a MacMini with Xenarc 10.5" touchscreen for nearly
> two years. Mainly switched to the Mini to save valuable real estate on
> my cart. It works perfectly- I've never had any problems with my
> set-up. (Although I don't use the usb touchscreen function...MC
> "buttons" are too small for my liking and I'm kind of a keyboard person
> anyway.) I use a Newer Technology powered FW/USB hub and have all AC
> powered components (HDs, DVD-RAM burner etc.) into a 1000V/A USP.
> I still keep my G4 12" Powerbook nearby as a back up (and to fool
> around on at work:-)
> Hope this helps.
>
> Dave >> Stay informed about: Metacorder computer |
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