Mic for small room

EricS wrote:
> G'day there,
>
> Recommendations please ?
> -For close work in smallish and somewhat echoic rooms.
> My short shotguns dont do it, producing a "boomy" effect, even the very
> short attachment for the Seinheiser K6 series.
> I believe I need to go hyper-cardiod ? -or cardiod?
> Suggestions please?
>
> Eric from Oz
Hi Eric, My first suggestion would be to try breaking up the standing
waves and flutter echo with some acoustic treatment. If that is not
practical or possible I would consider using a high quality lav mic
such as a DPA to take the room out of the equation. Best Regards,
David Kelson
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EricS wrote:
> G'day there,
>
> Recommendations please ?
> -For close work in smallish and somewhat echoic rooms.
> My short shotguns dont do it, producing a "boomy" effect, even the very
> short attachment for the Seinheiser K6 series.
> I believe I need to go hyper-cardiod ? -or cardiod?
> Suggestions please?
>
> Eric from Oz

Hi Eric, My first suggestion would be to try breaking up the standing
waves, boominess and possible flutter echo with some acoustic
treatment. If that is not
practical or possible I would consider using a high quality lav mic
such as a DPA to take the room out of the equation. Best Regards,
David Kelson
 >> Stay informed about: Mic for small room 

EricS wrote:
> G'day there,
>
> Recommendations please ?
> -For close work in smallish and somewhat echoic rooms.
> My short shotguns dont do it, producing a "boomy" effect, even the very
> short attachment for the Seinheiser K6 series.
> I believe I need to go hyper-cardiod ? -or cardiod?
> Suggestions please?
>
> Eric from Oz

Hi Eric, My first suggestion would be to try breaking up the standing
waves, boominess, and possible flutter echo with some acoustic
treatment. If that is not practical or possible I would consider using
a high quality lav mic
such as a DPA on the actor to take the room out of the equation. Best
Regards,
David Kelson
 >> Stay informed about: Mic for small room 

If you are going to go overhead, a cardioid like a Schoeps Mk4 will sound
better than a, say, Mk41 if you can get it in. Lots of problems in small
squarish rooms are exaserbated by using interference tube mics like the
Sennheiser 416, 50, Neumann 81, etc. I seem to find that the Sanken CS-3e
is not so plagued by comb-filtering as are the standard interference tubes,
but if you can use a lav, an omni, wide with no tube seems to be the bast
bet.

D.

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>
> EricS wrote:
>> G'day there,
>>
>> Recommendations please ?
>> -For close work in smallish and somewhat echoic rooms.
>> My short shotguns dont do it, producing a "boomy" effect, even the very
>> short attachment for the Seinheiser K6 series.
>> I believe I need to go hyper-cardiod ? -or cardiod?
>> Suggestions please?
>>
>> Eric from Oz
>
> Hi Eric, My first suggestion would be to try breaking up the standing
> waves, boominess, and possible flutter echo with some acoustic
> treatment. If that is not practical or possible I would consider using
> a high quality lav mic
> such as a DPA on the actor to take the room out of the equation. Best
> Regards,
> David Kelson
>
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Re: Mic for small room

Group: rec.arts.movies.production.sound Date: Wed, Nov 22, 2006, 6:02pm
(EST-3) From: tourtelot DeleteThis @speakeasy.net (Douglas Tourtelot)

If you are going to go overhead, a cardioid like a Schoeps Mk4 will
sound better than a, say, Mk41 if you can get it in. Lots of problems in
small squarish rooms are exaserbated by using interference tube mics
like the Sennheiser 416, 50,<<<<<<<<

Typo most likely, hitting the 5 key instead of the 6 key. ;-))


Eric





Neumann 81, etc. I seem to find that the Sanken CS-3e is not so plagued
by comb-filtering as are the standard interference tubes, but if you can
use a lav, an omni, wide with no tube seems to be the bast bet.
D.
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For small, boomy rooms nothing works better than a cardioid mic and I
like the AT 4051. Kitchens, bathrooms, or plaster walls & hardwood do
not deter this mic- the echo simply goes away. Giving the room a little
treatment is always a good idea, if you can. But with an overhead
working distance of almost three feet, the 4051 cannot be beat even in
fairly wide shots.
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