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wmmvrrvrrmm

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(Msg. 31) Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:04 pm
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"Robert" <rdbake.RemoveThis@NOSPAMprtcnet.org> wrote in message news:<36hhk9F52j994U1.RemoveThis@individual.net>...

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> Space Jockey and the ship are just a plot device; as to who/what
> they are, Ridley says it's a military ship and the cargo is weapons. Makes sense, jives
>with what I personally always suspected, and the Man said it,
so....;) If somebody feels >a need to plug _that_ into the Predator
universe, I dunno....Predator's enemies, >perhaps?

I think to say that Ridley offers a theory that it is a military ship
rather than says it is would be more accurate. I suppose personally
that Ridley talks about this to offer likely discussion matter rather
than a solid point for a sequal which I think he would most likely
wish to keep under wraps and just offer red herrings about a likely
theory. And maybe the idea that he would have about the derelict and
it's "pilot" would be less obvious once the details were looked at.

I like the idea that he talks about it having biological (or did he
say bacteriological?) weapons in the way that Saddam Hussein has and
well in reflection of that statement, it seems that there is no proof
that Saddam had any biological weapons.

Looking at the derelict construct still causes me to ask many many
questions that result in confusion and more intricacy in my theories
about it.

Dom

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(Msg. 32) Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:21 pm
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"wmmvrrvrrmm" <wmmvrrvrrmm DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Robert" <rdbake DeleteThis @NOSPAMprtcnet.org> wrote in message
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>>
>> Space Jockey and the ship are just a plot device; as to who/what
>> they are, Ridley says it's a military ship and the cargo is weapons.
>> Makes sense, jives
>>with what I personally always suspected, and the Man said it,
> so....;) If somebody feels >a need to plug _that_ into the Predator
> universe, I dunno....Predator's enemies, >perhaps?
>
> I think to say that Ridley offers a theory that it is a military ship
> rather than says it is would be more accurate.

Yeah, I can see that interpretation.


I suppose personally
> that Ridley talks about this to offer likely discussion matter rather
> than a solid point for a sequal which I think he would most likely
> wish to keep under wraps and just offer red herrings about a likely
> theory. And maybe the idea that he would have about the derelict and
> it's "pilot" would be less obvious once the details were looked at.
>
> I like the idea that he talks about it having biological (or did he
> say bacteriological?)

Don't recall for sure - I think he's still trying to talk around the
lollipop
(or something) at this point.


>weapons in the way that Saddam Hussein has and
> well in reflection of that statement,

Huh?


it seems that there is no proof
> that Saddam had any biological weapons.
>
> Looking at the derelict construct still causes me to ask many many
> questions that result in confusion and more intricacy in my theories
> about it.

I guess when you have an artist like Giger on board....nothing's a
cigar. ;)

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(Msg. 33) Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:49 am
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"Robert" <rdbake.TakeThisOut@NOSPAMprtcnet.org> wrote in message news:<3820k0F5k8dueU1.TakeThisOut@individual.net>...

>
> I guess when you have an artist like Giger on board....nothing's a
> cigar. ;)

I am now wondering about the possibilities of a biomechanic cigar


Dom
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:26 am
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"Robert" <rdbake DeleteThis @NOSPAMprtcnet.org> wrote in message news:<3820k0F5k8dueU1 DeleteThis @individual.net>...

>
> I guess when you have an artist like Giger on board....nothing's a
> cigar. ;)


I often think of the confusion about the final derelict being like a
result of a cut up and fold in experiment with cuttings from newspaper
columns, so that the words from one side of a column are matched up
with words from the other side of a column and new permutations of
sentences are created. That's the stuff that Burroughs was into. I
think though that it would a long time to work out where all the loose
threads in ideas about the derelict lead

So a sequel that would elaborate on the mysteries of the first film,
and ask more questions that we can not so easily answer, and I can not
begin to imagine what they could be at this moment in time, although I
am taking in ideas to imagine my own answers to the mysteries of Alien
leading to bigger questions since the obvious assumptions that I would
make at this point about what Alien was all about are not mind
expanding enough, and I need to find another turning point. And having
said that, I probably have hit that turning point a while ago but can
not yet put it in to words to make anything seem the slightest bit
worthy of talking about without going into lengthy descriptions of
fragments of thoughts.

For me it feels that Ridley with his questions about what the alien
was all about, was on some mesmerizing extistential trip worthy in
itself of the endless thoughts that one might attribut to something
like 2001 A Space Odyssey or even Solaris, and then again, all those
thoughts that he had may have long gone by now and changed into
something else

Dom

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(Msg. 35) Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:32 am
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"wmmvrrvrrmm" <wmmvrrvrrmm RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote

> For me it feels that Ridley with his questions about what the alien
> was all about, was on some mesmerizing extistential trip worthy in
> itself of the endless thoughts that one might attribut to something
> like 2001 A Space Odyssey

Nah, he just ran up behind us and yelled "Boo!" ;)
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:00 pm
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Sure you have discussed this hundred of times, but I want to know which
is the most prefered opinion.

How do the eggs arrive to the Sulaco at the beggining of Alien 3?

Thanks!
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:00 pm
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"saby" <pinsapo.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sure you have discussed this hundred of times, but I want to know which
> is the most prefered opinion.
> How do the eggs arrive to the Sulaco at the beggining of Alien 3?


The most preffered version is...

Bad scriptwriting.

;' )


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(Msg. 38) Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 3:18 am
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saby asked:

> How do the eggs arrive to the Sulaco at the beggining of Alien 3?
>
> Thanks!

Well, it's all so clear now. The Predators put it there.

:-P

Ahmed
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:08 pm
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> Well, it's all so clear now. The Predators put it there.

Don't start!

;-)

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(Msg. 40) Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:38 am
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On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:08:44 +0000, Adam Cameron wrote:

>> Well, it's all so clear now. The Predators put it there.
>
> Don't start!

Hmm, interesting. Blah blah blah, blah-de blah-blah. What free newsserver
can I use when Individual shuts me off?

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(Msg. 41) Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:12 am
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"saby" <pinsapo RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sure you have discussed this hundred of times, but I want to know which is
> the most prefered opinion.
>
> How do the eggs arrive to the Sulaco at the beggining of Alien 3?
>

No, not a flame..but poor writing...honestly.

There is no way around it because look where the egg is when they show it
open in the credits..it looks like it is hanging from the locker area on the
ship.I have no theories at all.
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(Msg. 42) Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:15 pm
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"Brian" <brianwolters DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message news:<38gu6tF4qmjdcU1 DeleteThis @individual.net>...
> "saby" <pinsapo DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> There is no way around it because look where the egg is when they show it
> open in the credits..it looks like it is hanging from the locker area on the
> ship.I have no theories at all.


I made the assumption that they were beneath the floor in the dropship
hanger, where Newt was hiding from the queen.
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(Msg. 43) Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:18 pm
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"Covenant" <covenant.TakeThisOut@joelamb.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:<
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> The most preffered version is...
>
> Bad scriptwriting.
>
> ;' )


if they had sounds of scampering facehuggers at the end credits of
Alien Resurrection as a film joke, that would have be the possible
beginning for Alien 5
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(Msg. 44) Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:20 pm
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On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 19:00:26 +0100, saby <pinsapo.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:

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> Sure you have discussed this hundred of times, but I want to know which
>is the most prefered opinion.
>
> How do the eggs arrive to the Sulaco at the beggining of Alien 3?
>
> Thanks!



with the Egg man.

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(Msg. 45) Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:36 am
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*****> On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 19:00:26 +0100, saby <pinsapo.DeleteThis@hotmail.com>
wrote:*****
>
>>
>> Sure you have discussed this hundred of times, but I want to know which
>>is the most prefered opinion.
>>
>> How do the eggs arrive to the Sulaco at the beggining of Alien 3?
>>
>> Thanks!
>
>
>
> with the Egg man.


Thats some lag your server's got !!!!



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