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John Redman

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 12:32 am
Post subject: Why did the SJ pick LV426 to ditch the derelict on?
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We are told that the signal is a warning; we don't know specifically what it
said, but Ash seems to know plenty about the specimen they've been sent to
gather, so it may have been quite detailed.

If it was quite detailed, it was aimed at all visitors including those
unfamiliar with the alien.

It thus appears that the SJ was warning off everyone who might happen past.
If so, why did he ditch where he did? We know LV426 is a planetoid, i.e.
small, and we know it orbits a much larger planet. Thr latter is presumably
a gas giant, so if the SJ wanted to make its cargo safe, wouldn't it have
just crashed on the gas giant instead?

One potential explanation is that the SJ didn't know he was carrying the
Alien when he landed on LV426. He presumably set up the warning in the
interval between being facehugged and chest-burst. One wonders why he didn't
just blow up the ship. What else was it carrying that he didn't want
destroyed?

On a side note, the egg chamber seems to be below the derelict and not part
of it. I reckon it was excavated and built by aliens, not the SJ. Anyone
disagree?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 4:34 pm
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In article <co5tjf$f7u$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>,
"John Redman" <johnphilipredman RemoveThis @hotmailREMOVETHEBLEEDINOBVIOUS.com> wrote:

> We are told that the signal is a warning; we don't know specifically what it
> said, but Ash seems to know plenty about the specimen they've been sent to
> gather, so it may have been quite detailed.
>
> If it was quite detailed, it was aimed at all visitors including those
> unfamiliar with the alien.
>
> It thus appears that the SJ was warning off everyone who might happen past.
> If so, why did he ditch where he did? We know LV426 is a planetoid, i.e.
> small, and we know it orbits a much larger planet. Thr latter is presumably
> a gas giant, so if the SJ wanted to make its cargo safe, wouldn't it have
> just crashed on the gas giant instead?
>
> One potential explanation is that the SJ didn't know he was carrying the
> Alien when he landed on LV426. He presumably set up the warning in the
> interval between being facehugged and chest-burst. One wonders why he didn't
> just blow up the ship. What else was it carrying that he didn't want
> destroyed?

- Maybe the warning system was standard installation on these weapon cargo
ships that automatically went off unless you manually reset it - in order to
warn other ships if something happened.

- Maybe it wasn't entirely a warning, perhaps a warning embedded into a SOS
signal, he wanted help but warned about the dangers in helping him.

- Maybe he accidentally hit the 'send warning signal'-button instead of the
'self-destruct vessle and all alien life forms'-button. :)

> On a side note, the egg chamber seems to be below the derelict and not part
> of it. I reckon it was excavated and built by aliens, not the SJ. Anyone
> disagree?

That means that every egg in that chamber was created after the craft landed,
implying that there was as many hosts for the eggs. The derelict doesn't seem
to be a place for thousands of 'space jockey'-creatures. I've always been more
comfortable with the weaponry-angle where this was a big compartment for the
weaponry.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 7:26 pm
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"John Redman" <johnphilipredman RemoveThis @hotmailREMOVETHEBLEEDINOBVIOUS.com> wrote in
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> It thus appears that the SJ was warning off everyone who might happen
past.
> If so, why did he ditch where he did? We know LV426 is a planetoid, i.e.
> small, and we know it orbits a much larger planet. Thr latter is
presumably
> a gas giant, so if the SJ wanted to make its cargo safe, wouldn't it have
> just crashed on the gas giant instead?

The signal was only (AFAWK) in the Sj tongue.
IF the alien is a *weapon* then LV426 could easily be the training/breeding
/pickup/grounds.. (More below)

> On a side note, the egg chamber seems to be below the derelict and not
part
> of it. I reckon it was excavated and built by aliens, not the SJ. Anyone
> disagree?


The *egg chamber* was initially supposed to be a seperate place.
Even up to the shoot.
Re: the Pyramid/SJ+Alien *religious* conotation theories...

all fun !!!

;' )


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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:48 pm
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On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 00:32:57 +0000, John Redman wrote:

> If so, why did he ditch where he did?

Here is a better explanation: it had no choice.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 12:19 am
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In article <co5tjf$f7u$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>, "John Redman"
<johnphilipredman.TakeThisOut@hotmailREMOVETHEBLEEDINOBVIOUS.com> wrote:

<< We are told that the signal is a warning; we don't know specifically what it

>said, but Ash seems to know plenty about the specimen they've been sent to
>gather, so it may have been quite detailed.


I assume he knew what he knew about the alien from his scientific study and
evaluation of the situation.


>It thus appears that the SJ was warning off everyone who might happen past.
>If so, why did he ditch where he did? We know LV426 is a planetoid, i.e.
>small, and we know it orbits a much larger planet. Thr latter is presumably
>a gas giant, so if the SJ wanted to make its cargo safe, wouldn't it have
>just crashed on the gas giant instead?


>One potential explanation is that the SJ didn't know he was carrying the
>Alien when he landed on LV426. He presumably set up the warning in the
>interval between being facehugged and chest-burst. One wonders why he didn't
>just blow up the ship. What else was it carrying that he didn't want
>destroyed?

He may have felt that it was part of his own life cycle to be facehugged. I
think maybe that the spores he carried were cocooned victims who had nowhere to
go for one reason or another and that their knowledge filled DNA would carry on
into the next alien creature, and it could have been extracted too, once there
was no problem with leaving the planetoid. So the spacejockey would get to be
one day later resurrected having piggy backed on the spores DNA. So I am
interested in the idea of these cocooned victims turning into spores because i
think the derelict picked up remaining bodies left behind from the destruction
of a technical civilisation that Giger wanted to incorporate ruins of into the
structure of the Acheronian landscape of the planetoid. However all we have
left of that is a pipe within the rock beneath the derelict entrance. I think
there was a weapons factory on the planetoid that was destroyed and some kind
of a weapon infected everything there and nothing was allowed to leave for
thousands of years

The alien spores might only have been a danger to those unused to the life
cycle.

But once I have to think about incorporating an alien queen and her hive into
the story, I get bored. It gets almost as limiting as the concept of Alien vs
Predator to me


>On a side note, the egg chamber seems to be below the derelict and not part
>of it. I reckon it was excavated and built by aliens, not the SJ. Anyone
>disagree?
>>

I believe that it was built by the same technology that built the ship. The
alien organisms might have been part of the technology, as biomechanoids, but I
believe that the derelict had mining equipment. I think that Scott did say
though that one could argue that the silo was within the ship, and he seems to
talk about the derelict being a vessel that drops spores on planets.

Another idea is perhaps that the interior of the vessel is not the same size as
the exterior of the vessel, that is is much larger, maybe like a Tardis out of
Doctor Who, or it simply extends into an alternate reality which is bound by
physical laws in a much different way., but it would be hard to imagine.

Dom
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