My Sennheisser MKH 8050 is way, way, way too sensitive to ..

You should use the LFA on your mixer
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On Mar 28, 6:54 pm, stefanspring....RemoveThis@hotmail.com wrote:
> I bought an Sennheisser MKH 8050 because I'm obsessed by
> miniaturization (sore back). The mic sounds good, except . . . it's
> extremely susceptible to low end rumbling. I mean extremely. For
> example, when I put it on a stand, it picks up the rumblings of foot
> steps on other floors in my NYC apartment building. Trucks on other
> blocks cause my V.U.'s to go into the red. Forget about holding it on
> a fishpole, it's just too sensitive to handling noise. What gives? Do
> I have a defective unit, or are they all like his? It really can't be
> used for location recordings. I have it mounted in the Rycote
> Zeppelin specifically designed for it, but I'm about to relegate it to
> a drawer.
>
> Does anybody else have any experience with his mic?


Is the Rycote mount the new Invision mount? There has been people on
here complaining about the same problem. I think Pascal rigged
something together. But I'm not sure what his last name is.
Hopefully he'll see this.

Justan
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> Is the Rycote mount the new Invision mount?  There has been people on
> here complaining about the same problem.  I think Pascal rigged
> something together.  But I'm not sure what his last name is.
> Hopefully he'll see this.

It's not an Invision, it's the full Rycote zeppelin mount. Perhaps I
need to experiment with different kinds of elastic, because the ones
that come with it seem quite stiff.
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On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:54:19 -0400, stefanspringman RemoveThis @hotmail.com wrote
(in article
<0dead7c6-d0b0-4a71-8545-2b824c73f57a RemoveThis @e67g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>):

> I bought an Sennheisser MKH 8050 because I'm obsessed by
> miniaturization (sore back). The mic sounds good, except . . . it's
> extremely susceptible to low end rumbling. I mean extremely. For
> example, when I put it on a stand, it picks up the rumblings of foot
> steps on other floors in my NYC apartment building. Trucks on other
> blocks cause my V.U.'s to go into the red. Forget about holding it on
> a fishpole, it's just too sensitive to handling noise. What gives? Do
> I have a defective unit, or are they all like his? It really can't be
> used for location recordings. I have it mounted in the Rycote
> Zeppelin specifically designed for it, but I'm about to relegate it to
> a drawer.
>
> Does anybody else have any experience with his mic?

Yes, the lack of LF isolation was reported early on. I found the K-tek K-GPSS
(Short) better than my usual suspension mount.

This will not, however, keep the mic from picking up airborn LF from HVAC and
other sources.

When I had the 8050, Thought it had a smiley face EQ. Your finding confirm
the bottom. While I couldn't hear the top lift on voice, it was apparent on
something as simple as acoustic guitar. How that will play out if you're
booming over someone walking on gravel or someone with an overly sibilant
voice, I don't know. Didn't try that.

Regards,

Ty Ford


--Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services
Acting and Voiceover Demos http://www.tyford.com
Guitar player?:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RZJ9MptZmU
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On Mar 29, 12:48 pm, Ty Ford <tyreef....TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:54:19 -0400, stefanspring....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com wrote
> (in article
> <0dead7c6-d0b0-4a71-8545-2b824c73f....TakeThisOut@e67g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>):
>
> > I bought an Sennheisser MKH 8050 because I'm obsessed by
> > miniaturization (sore back). The mic sounds good, except . . . it's
> > extremely susceptible to low end rumbling. I mean extremely. For
> > example, when I put it on a stand, it picks up the rumblings of foot
> > steps on other floors in my NYC apartment building. Trucks on other
> > blocks cause my V.U.'s to go into the red. Forget about holding it on
> > a fishpole, it's just too sensitive to handling noise. What gives? Do
> > I have a defective unit, or are they all like his? It really can't be
> > used for location recordings. I have it mounted in the Rycote
> > Zeppelin specifically designed for it, but I'm about to relegate it to
> > a drawer.
>
> > Does anybody else have any experience with his mic?
>
> Yes, the lack of LF isolation was reported early on. I found the K-tek K-GPSS
> (Short) better than my usual suspension mount.
>
> This will not, however, keep the mic from picking up airborn LF from HVAC and
> other sources.
>
> When I had the 8050, Thought it had a smiley face EQ. Your finding confirm
> the bottom. While I couldn't hear the top lift on voice, it was apparent on
> something as simple as acoustic guitar. How that will play out if you're
> booming over someone walking on gravel or someone with an overly sibilant
> voice, I don't know. Didn't try that.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ty Ford
>
> --Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services
> Acting and Voiceover Demoshttp://www.tyford.com
> Guitar player?:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RZJ9MptZmU

stefan,
not used the mic yet myself, but the folks lucky enough to test the
invision mounts with this mic say that they do job.
if you're finding the modular suspension seems too stiff for this very
light mic try increasing the mass of it. lead shot and blacktack wont
look pretty but maybe a cheap way of solving the problem for now.
rycote have a page on how the invision/lyre suspension works, it seems
they have designed the system for such low mass mics:
http://www.rycote.com/products/invision/rycote_lyres/

let us know if weighting the mic changes anything if you try it.

dan.
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On Mar 29, 8:31 pm, d rosen <danielro....DeleteThis@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mar 29, 12:48 pm, Ty Ford <tyreef....DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:54:19 -0400, stefanspring....DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote
> > (in article
> > <0dead7c6-d0b0-4a71-8545-2b824c73f....DeleteThis@e67g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>):
>
> > > I bought an Sennheisser MKH 8050 because I'm obsessed by
> > > miniaturization (sore back).  The mic sounds good, except . . . it's
> > > extremely susceptible to low end rumbling.  I mean extremely.  For
> > > example, when I put it on a stand, it picks up the rumblings of foot
> > > steps on other floors in my NYC apartment building.  Trucks on other
> > > blocks cause my V.U.'s to go into the red.  Forget about holding it on
> > > a fishpole, it's just too sensitive to handling noise. What gives?  Do
> > > I have a defective unit, or are they all like his?  It really can't be
> > > used for location recordings.  I have it mounted in the Rycote
> > > Zeppelin specifically designed for it, but I'm about to relegate it to
> > > a drawer.
>
> > > Does anybody else have any experience with his mic?
>
> > Yes, the lack of LF isolation was reported early on. I found the K-tek K-GPSS
> > (Short) better than my usual suspension mount.
>
> > This will not, however, keep the mic from picking up airborn LF from HVAC and
> > other sources.
>
> > When I had the 8050, Thought it had a smiley face EQ. Your finding confirm
> > the bottom. While I couldn't hear the top lift on voice, it was apparent on
> > something as simple as acoustic guitar. How that will play out if you're
> > booming over someone walking on gravel or someone with an overly sibilant
> > voice, I don't know. Didn't try that.
>
> > Regards,
>
> > Ty Ford
>
> > --Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services
> > Acting and Voiceover Demoshttp://www.tyford.com
> > Guitar player?:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RZJ9MptZmU
>
> stefan,
> not used the mic yet myself, but the folks lucky enough to test the
> invision mounts with this mic say that they do job.
> if you're finding the modular suspension seems too stiff for this very
> light mic try increasing the mass of it. lead shot and blacktack wont
> look pretty but maybe a cheap way of solving the problem for now.
> rycote have a page on how the invision/lyre suspension works, it seems
> they have designed the system for such low mass mics:http://www.rycote.com/products/invision/rycote_lyres/
>
> let us know if weighting the mic changes anything if you try it.
>
> dan.

Thanks for that suggestion Dan. Since I bought the mic for it's low
mass, I don't think I can bring myself to weight the thing. Rycote
has contacted me (what a nice company) and suggested the invision/lyre
suggestion. I'm excited to try it.
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> Does anybody else have any experience with his mic?

I have one of those MKH 8050 and I confirm the low frequency
sensitivity is a problem.

I have been told there will be a low cut filter made by Sennheiser, to
insert between the capsule and the preamplifier. I don't know when
that accessoiry will be ready.

To work with that microphone on a boom, I use an OSIX 2 suspension but
I put an XLR M/F (Neutrik) adapter to have a longer microphone.

The extra weight added to the microphone by the use of that short
adapter reduces the low frequencies boom transmission to the
microphone.

http://www.cinela.fr/osix-2.php?language=en
http://www.neutrik.com/fl/en/audio/210_76161/NA3FM_detail.aspx

Philippe Vandendriessche
Brussels / Belgium
www.adhocsound.be
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as an inline solution there's also the Schoeps filters.
The LC-60U is 18dB/oct @ 60Hz.
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