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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:37 am
Post subject: Sentimental Charlie
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It's interesting to me that Chaplin very seldom gave a name to his
movie character. Occasionally in the earliest shorts, he's given a
burlesque name like "Count de Beans" or "Mr. Rowdy," but basically he's
the Tramp With No Name. A curious exception is THE IMMIGRANT, where his
name tag reads "McAlet."
I can't think of a film in which the Tramp is called "Charlie." Can
you guys?
The closest example I can think of is the original poster for one of
the earliest Keystones, CRUEL CRUEL LOVE. It's a painting of Chaplin
and a girl, and way down in the lower left corner is the caption
"Sentimental Charlie."
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:50 am
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In "The Bank" he may not be a tramp but he's definitely Charlie.
On 22 Aug 2006 08:37:35 -0700, "Shush" <shushfilmseznospam RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> It's interesting to me that Chaplin very seldom gave a name to his
>movie character. Occasionally in the earliest shorts, he's given a
>burlesque name like "Count de Beans" or "Mr. Rowdy," but basically he's
>the Tramp With No Name. A curious exception is THE IMMIGRANT, where his
>name tag reads "McAlet."
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> I can't think of a film in which the Tramp is called "Charlie." Can
>you guys?
>
> The closest example I can think of is the original poster for one of
>the earliest Keystones, CRUEL CRUEL LOVE. It's a painting of Chaplin
>and a girl, and way down in the lower left corner is the caption
>"Sentimental Charlie."
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:13 am
Post subject: Re: Sentimental Charlie [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Phil P wrote:
> In "The Bank" he may not be a tramp but he's definitely Charlie.
Good example. Isn't there also a film, maybe one of the features,
where the leading lady mouths the word "Charlie"?
But for the most part Chaplin avoided naming his character, whereas
(at least in the 1920s) Lloyd is always playing someone named Harold,
Langdon's character is usually named Harry, Keaton often plays a
Johnnie or Jimmie something-or-other, Snub Pollard's referred to as
"Snub," and Charley Chase's character was called Jimmie Jump for quite
a while.
I guess Chaplin felt he could better keep his character an Everyman
without pinning him down to a specific name...?
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 12:39 pm
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On 22 Aug 2006 10:13:05 -0700, "Shush" <shushfilmseznospam.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>Phil P wrote:
>> In "The Bank" he may not be a tramp but he's definitely Charlie.
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> Good example. Isn't there also a film, maybe one of the features,
>where the leading lady mouths the word "Charlie"?
Yes I think that happens in the Gold Rush when Georgia recognizes another
Charlie standing behind him, but the Tramp thinks she's talking to him. There
might be a place in MT as well (maybe when Goddard gets arrested near the end of
the film).
Generally you're right, though. There are more instances where the character
has other names or no name that when he's actually referred to as Charlie. >> Stay informed about: Sentimental Charlie |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:14 pm
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I don't know about "Charlie," but I've seen Edna mouth "Mister Chaplin"
a few times in the Mutuals - in The Cure when he gets drunk and makes a
pass at her, in Easy Street when she sees him in his police
uniform...there are other times, I'm sure, but I can't think of them
off the top of my head. >> Stay informed about: Sentimental Charlie |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:07 am
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"Shush" (shushfilmseznospam@yahoo.com) writes:
> Phil P wrote:
>> In "The Bank" he may not be a tramp but he's definitely Charlie.
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> Good example. Isn't there also a film, maybe one of the features,
> where the leading lady mouths the word "Charlie"?
That's Georgia in _The Gold Rush_, when she's actually speaking to
another man behind the Tramp.
If I'm recallng correctly, Chaplin does not report her greeting in
'42.
Interesting point, Shush. But I always thought it was Mr Alet, a name of
unidentifiable origin.
Connie K.
> But for the most part Chaplin avoided naming his character, whereas
> (at least in the 1920s) Lloyd is always playing someone named Harold,
> Langdon's character is usually named Harry, Keaton often plays a
> Johnnie or Jimmie something-or-other, Snub Pollard's referred to as
> "Snub," and Charley Chase's character was called Jimmie Jump for quite
> a while.
>
> I guess Chaplin felt he could better keep his character an Everyman
> without pinning him down to a specific name...?
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> --Shush--
> >> Stay informed about: Sentimental Charlie |
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