Setting a TC Slate

Whatever you do, don't be rolling as the clock passes midnight. I don't
think any editing system will be able to work with a take that has lower
timecode at the end than at the beginning. I could be wrong.
Peter

In article <re6dnX51-_ZDoTPcRVn-iA.RemoveThis@adelphia.com>,
Eric LaRoche <zerocontent.RemoveThis@siliconfreaks.com> wrote:

> Not that I'm right but I'll weigh in anyways, I say set the user bit at
> the date and after midnight change it to the current date. That's my 2
> cent.
>
> Eric
>
> Adam D. Sperry wrote:
> > I normally Free-Run Time of Day and synch the slate as Master to the
> > recorder 2-3 times a day.
> >
> > What is the best setting for a TC slate on a shooting day that will
> > cross 12midnight and go into the early morning?
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Adam D. Sperry wrote:

> I normally Free-Run Time of Day and synch the slate as Master to the
> recorder 2-3 times a day.
>
> What is the best setting for a TC slate on a shooting day that will
> cross 12midnight and go into the early morning?

I usually set the time as AM instead of PM at the start of the shoot, so
we only cross noon, not midnight.

i.e. - If the shoot starts at 8:00pm, set the TC for 8:00:00 instead of
20:00:00. Of course, always check with Post!

---Matt
Chicago, Il
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00.00.00.00 at call time.
It can also help keep track of the day (eg. lunch at 06.00.00.00.)
--Bob



On 1 Dec 2004 11:34:46 -0800, AdmNaismith DeleteThis @yahoo.com (Adam D. Sperry)
wrote:

>I normally Free-Run Time of Day and synch the slate as Master to the
>recorder 2-3 times a day.
>
>What is the best setting for a TC slate on a shooting day that will
>cross 12midnight and go into the early morning?
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I agree with Matt, just advance the clock ahead by 12 hours, but Bob's idea
of not using time of day and start at 00:00:00:00 would work too if you
don't care about the time.

Jay
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All zeros at call. Why in the world would anyone care whatr the clock time
is on the set? And God forbid you ever go past zero in one day. Hope you
are making double time for that 24th hour of work<g>.

D.


"Jay Hartigan" <jhartigantakeout RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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>I agree with Matt, just advance the clock ahead by 12 hours, but Bob's idea
>of not using time of day and start at 00:00:00:00 would work too if you
>don't care about the time.
>
> Jay
>
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> What is the best setting for a TC slate on a shooting day
> that will cross 12midnight and go into the early morning?

In such a situation it is presumably that you start after 12:00h noon.
Set the TC 12 hours behind, so 13:00h realtime is 01:00h TC time.
Midnight will then be 12:00h and early morning will still be far away
from the frightning 23:59 :) Make a note on the sound/continuity
report about this.

Gert
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> Whatever you do, don't be rolling as the clock passes midnight.
> I don't think any editing system will be able to work with a take
> that has lower timecode at the end than at the beginning. I could
> be wrong. Peter

What about non-tape based systems like DVD-ram (PD-6 etc.)? Can they
handle this?

Gert
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Another variation on the same theme:

As you approach midnight -- say, a good hour before, to be safe -- reset the
clocks an hour ahead to 01:00. So it's an hour off.. No one will know or
care. The worst that could happen is that the AD breaks for your second meal
an hour early.

GT
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Glen lets say you are shooting in the plane with time of the day tc , the
flight is from Nashville to LA that take off on 23.30 -what are you doing
then ?:-)


--
Oleg Kaizerman (gebe) Hollyland
"Glen Trew" <notthisone.RemoveThis@either.com> wrote in message
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> Another variation on the same theme:
>
> As you approach midnight -- say, a good hour before, to be safe -- reset
> the
> clocks an hour ahead to 01:00. So it's an hour off.. No one will know or
> care. The worst that could happen is that the AD breaks for your second
> meal
> an hour early.
>
> GT
>
>
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On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 20:30:47 -0600, "Glen Trew" <notthisone RemoveThis @either.com>
wrote:

>Another variation on the same theme:
>
>As you approach midnight -- say, a good hour before, to be safe -- reset the
>clocks an hour ahead to 01:00. So it's an hour off.. No one will know or
>care. The worst that could happen is that the AD breaks for your second meal
>an hour early.


Not sure about Telecine. The whole Picture-scan department used to
freak out completely when you go back in TC...

R










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On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 00:09:59 +0100, "Gert Wiersema"
<gj_junior DeleteThis @donder.op> wrote:

>What about non-tape based systems like DVD-ram (PD-6 etc.)? Can they
>handle this?

When you shoot Film, with both TC on cam and pic, and sync in
Telecine, do not cross 24.00 if possible. ( ever )

R







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If telecine is using the Fostex DV-40 for playback, you can record through
midnight
without problem. Several software versions ago would have caused trouble,
but now the trouble has been corrected. If the audio is being loaded into an
Avid I don't see what issues there may be at all.

The DV-40 has a "List Play" mode that arranges the nonlinear files for
playback in order according to the timecode stamp. This mode places all the
files in order and then inserts silence and continous timecode between the
files. This is very helpful in syncing because it allows us to rewind into
time that doesn't exist if the mixer called speed before the precious 5
second preroll had elapsed. The machine will smoothly play from silence
with virtual timecode into the actual take. This is another reason our
policy is to dub all DATs to DVD-RAM before syncing to eliminate this
trouble.

With DAT or even Nagra, the trouble telecine would have with timecode
recorded over midnight, is the machine wouldn't know to continue on the same
tape to get a take recorded after 23:59:59. The player would want to rewind
to find 00:01:30 and so on. You would have to force the machine into the
new timecode and then you can continue. The nonlinear files don't care
where the file is on the disc.

Fostex has a mode that will shift the order of the files from starting @
00:00:00:00 to starting @ 12:00:00:00. This mode is called "Midnight" and
was developed to allow recording through midnight when the software had
issues, but I've never had to use it since the newer fixes were implemented.

Jay
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The consensus is that if you start shooting after noon, set the TC in
the AM range so at midnight (real-time) the slate only sees noon.

The folks at Ambient said as much also, and said the new manuals will
include suggested settings for particular types of shoots(film, HD,
music videos, ect.)
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