Welcome to MovieandPop.com!
FAQFAQ    SearchSearch      ProfileProfile    Private MessagesPrivate Messages   Log inLog in

The Shooting (1967)--Hellman, Nicholson, Oates etc.

 
   Movie Forums (Home) -> Classic Films RSS
Next:  R.I.P Carlo Ponti  
Author Message
Kingo Gondo

External


Since: Apr 07, 2006
Posts: 371



(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:19 pm
Post subject: The Shooting (1967)--Hellman, Nicholson, Oates etc.
Archived from groups: rec>arts>movies>past-films (more info?)

Hmmm....I still don't know what to make of this one.

Saw it last night for the first time. Since it has Warren Oates starring, it
automatically gets some goodwill going in. And, I think, you can see
influences upon Peckinpah (among others) emanating from this film--which is
going to be another huge plus in the goodwill column.

This, basically, is AIP's version of an Antonioni Western. That is to be
admired, and a hell of a gutsy target. But no matter badly he was shafted by
Hollywood, I do think Hellman's reach can exceed his grasp, and I think that
is the case here. A huge casting error does not help. The male casting is
absolutely top notch (in retrospect, of course)--Oates and soon-to-be-star
Jack Nicholson. The female lead (the only female, for that matter), however,
is the uber-Aryan Anne Frank herself, Millie Perkins (my God, she will be 70
years old next year!). I know Hellman used her a few times, and she was on
the whole periphery of the AIP gang, but she just doesn't work for me, and
that is a major drag on the film, since her character is the catalyst for
what is happening (and not happening) in the film. She is just not good,
IMO. And while "not good" actors were generally never a hindrance to AIP
films, it is a problem (for me, at least) for a film with very lofty
aspirations like this one. Hellman, while not Antonioni, is a first rate
director; and Nicholson (who Antonioni used in The Passenger) and Oates are
deservedly legendary. But Perkins is about as long a drop from Monica Vitti
as I can imagine.

I think I may rewatch this one after I see Ride The Whirlwind (again, for
the first time) later this month.




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"[A] nothing will serve just as well as a something about which nothing can
be said."

 >> Stay informed about: The Shooting (1967)--Hellman, Nicholson, Oates etc. 
Back to top
Login to vote
Kingo Gondo

External


Since: Apr 07, 2006
Posts: 371



(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:54 pm
Post subject: Re: The Shooting (1967)--Hellman, Nicholson, Oates etc. [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Kingo Gondo" wrote in message

> Hmmm....I still don't know what to make of this one.
>
> Saw it last night for the first time. Since it has Warren Oates starring,
> it automatically gets some goodwill going in. And, I think, you can see
> influences upon Peckinpah (among others) emanating from this film--which
> is going to be another huge plus in the goodwill column.
>
> This, basically, is AIP's version of an Antonioni Western.

Let me clarify one thing--this is NOT an AIP film; it was just done by some
AIPers, with Corman money.

 >> Stay informed about: The Shooting (1967)--Hellman, Nicholson, Oates etc. 
Back to top
Login to vote
Display posts from previous:   
Related Topics:
monte hellman vs. gaza - gaza gets splattered while faint whispers of rund or rand ian or ayn are drift throu the air

Looking for Jack Nicholson Still - I saw a still from a JN film last weekend but can't figure out what it is from. He is sitting having dinner with two young ladies and is having a good time. The still was in color. Any ideas?

Jack Nicholson...the good, the bad, and the ugly? - Calling all Jack fans. I'm familiar with a lot of his work, but not all of it. If any of you could break it down, what you think his best work is, his not-so-good work, it would be much appreciated. Thanks.

1950's New York Location Shooting - I was watching "It Should Happen To You" (1954, George Cukor) and was surprised to find many location shots reflecting the brilliance of New York in black and white: Central Park, Columbus Circle, Union Square, San Reno Building. Severa...

most memorable gun shooting at camera scenes - once upon a time in the west
   Movie Forums (Home) -> Classic Films All times are: Pacific Time (US & Canada)
Page 1 of 1

 
You can post new topics in this forum
You can reply to topics in this forum
You can edit your posts in this forum
You can delete your posts in this forum
You can vote in polls in this forum



[ Contact us | Terms of Service/Privacy Policy ]