Sir Blob (get a life)

On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:19:59 -0000, william <williamahearn.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Why are you wasting our time and the space on this board with your
>alienated, inane and worthless posts? You're forcing other
>conversations off the board and you offer nothing but contentless
>drivel. What are you trying to prove?

No brainer, meaning he is a no-brainer .. One of the most seriously
dysfunctional people I have encountered online .. You don't reason with him;
you just killfile him and be done ..
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> Why are you wasting our time and the space on this board with your
> alienated, inane and worthless posts?

In order to get people to ask him why he's wasting their time.

> You're forcing other conversations off the board and you offer nothing
> but contentless drivel. What are you trying to prove?

There are two things you do to get rid of trolls: A) never respond to
them, and B) killfile them. Their entire raison d'etre is recognition -
if they are ignored, they will ultimately move elsewhere.
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slidge.DeleteThis@slidge.com wrote:
>>Why are you wasting our time and the space on this board with your
>>alienated, inane and worthless posts?

Joan Didion made fun of the like suggestion in movie criticism that the
aerialist in spangly tights up on the high trapeze was "only trying to
get our attention."

> There are two things you do to get rid of trolls: A) never respond to
> them, and B) killfile them. Their entire raison d'etre is recognition -
> if they are ignored, they will ultimately move elsewhere.

This paragraph should lead off every issue of that there guide published
here every month or so. Then maybe the news business might be advised of
how atrocities are perpetrated by publicizing perps.

--
'... my name is Noman; this is what my father and mother and my friends
have always called me.' - Odyssey; Book IX
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:19:59 -0000, william <williamahearn RemoveThis @yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Hey,
>
>Why are you wasting our time and the space on this board with your
>alienated, inane and worthless posts? You're forcing other
>conversations off the board and you offer nothing but contentless
>drivel.

That's what he wants to do. It's just petty malice.
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On Oct 9, 6:19 am, william <williamahe... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hey,
>
> Why are you wasting our time and the space on this board with your
> alienated, inane and worthless posts? You're forcing other
> conversations off the board and you offer nothing but contentless
> drivel. What are you trying to prove?
>
> Williamwww.williamahearn.com

he's critic as poet.
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slidge DeleteThis @slidge.com said something like:
>> Why are you wasting our time and the space on this board with your
>> alienated, inane and worthless posts?
>
> In order to get people to ask him why he's wasting their time.
>
>> You're forcing other conversations off the board and you offer
>> nothing but contentless drivel. What are you trying to prove?
>
> There are two things you do to get rid of trolls: A) never respond to
> them, and B) killfile them. Their entire raison d'etre is
> recognition - if they are ignored, they will ultimately move
> elsewhere.


No, that's often stated, and it has never been true. It is one of those
usenet tabloid-ideas that has never been shown to be true, and is so often
taken as gospel nevertheless.

If you ignore a troll, they do not ultimately move elsewhere.

When trolls are defeated with sound argument, they can sometimes be made to
feel ashamed. Once that happens, then they will sometimes see what they've
been doing and reduce their posts.

Engaging a troll does not harm anything, nor does it perpetuate their
behavior.
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> Engaging a troll does not harm anything, nor does it perpetuate their
> behavior.

I can think of a few groups that have died, outright died, because of the
actions of a single troll. rec.sports.baseball is in its dying throes
right now because of a troll.
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slidge RemoveThis @slidge.com wrote:

> I can think of a few groups that have died, outright died, because of the
> actions of a single troll. rec.sports.baseball is in its dying throes
> right now because of a troll.

"Trolls don't kill groups; People kills groups." - the NRA (Nutty
Republican Asses)



--
'... my name is Noman; this is what my father and mother and my friends
have always called me.' - Odyssey; Book IX
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....and poet as Klismaphiliac.
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slidge.TakeThisOut@slidge.com said something like:
>> Engaging a troll does not harm anything, nor does it perpetuate their
>> behavior.
>
> I can think of a few groups that have died, outright died, because of
> the actions of a single troll. rec.sports.baseball is in its dying
> throes right now because of a troll.


Groups die off, but you may be overstating this: what groups have outright
died as the results of a single troll?

Further, even so, it would not be because too many people have engaged him.

This usenet notion is in the same category as "cross posting is so
horrible"....A similar statement too often taken as fact. When you get
right down to it, people seem to have a need to periodically throw a hissy
fit over something or other.

Top posting, however, is slightly more of a detriment, only because it isn't
easy to have to reformat someone's post in order to intersperse your own
comments, and even then, it is something that can be ignored. But cross
posting and engaging a troll harms no one, and if people maintain that both
are being very rude, they are simply not being truthful with themselves:
they think that it is rude simply because they think that the majority of
people will agree with them, and people love to admonish others when they
think they stand on popular footing.
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Thomas G. Marshall wrote:

> Groups die off, but you may be overstating this: what groups have outright
> died as the results of a single troll?

I once had a Science teacher who sought to be different. When he caught
someone cheating on a test, he penalized the one whose security was so
weak as to allow copying. By this measure, spammers are not the problem,
but the idiots who respond to them are. Same with trolls.

My favorite troll story is pre-digital and involves The Carousel Club, a
sleazy North Dallas stripper dive with pretensions run by a minor
Chicago gangster named Jack Ruby. One of his bouncers had responded to a
troll and the two were happily engaged, rolling on the floor, when the
boss spied some slummers just entering the downstairs door. They were
frozen in contemplation of the scene at the top of the stairs, when Ruby
yelled down at them, "Come on up! Don't pay any attention to these bums!"

He learned, however, that allowing trolls to loiter and responses to
them marked his club as a sleazy dive, which it was, and ever the
tourists shall avoid it.

No, the troll was not named Lee Harvey.


--
'... my name is Noman; this is what my father and mother and my friends
have always called me.' - Odyssey; Book IX
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"Thomas G. Marshall"
<tgm2tothe10thpower.RemoveThis@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote:

>people love to admonish others when they think they stand on popular footing.

You aren't one of those people!







____
A bigger wretch I never knew on God's earth, an
arch-scoundrel whom I have sent about his business.

-- Beethoven, to Ries on Schindler
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On Oct 11, 11:30 am, No Man <woes....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:

By this measure, spammers are not the problem,
> but the idiots who respond to them are. Same with trolls.
>
So if I'm an "idiot" for responding to the troll, is the person who
responded to me more or less of an idiot? Does the idiocy grow or
diminish as the thread continues? No matter how you slice it, you're
in the same boat. Sometimes it's worth discussing what's going on with
this group because I was considering deleting my link because so much
junk gets posted here. What has happened instead is that numerous
other people have expressed the same concern and all feel strongly
about being here. I'll be the idiot every time if that happens.

William
www.williamahearn.com
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