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cinemad

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:41 am
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Does anybody have any information about the first version of
Tarkovsky's STALKER? Apparently the first version was lost, what
happened to it?

Regards,
Peter Mason

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 9:28 am
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>Does anybody have any information about the first version of
Tarkovsky's STALKER? Apparently the first version was lost, what
happened to it?


Regards,
Peter Mason <

Apparently it was accidently destroyed in a Moscow processing lab. The
first version was closer to the source novel *Roadside Picnic* by Boris
and Arkady Strugatsky in which the Zone is where an alien spaceship
dumped its rubbish.

JL

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:52 pm
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:52 pm
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:02 pm
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wondering goy wrote:
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> you mean he reshot the whole movie?
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It was either that or get sent to the GULAG.


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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:39 am
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:15 pm
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wondering goy wrote:
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> funny, but he got exiled for that movie.
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I can see why.


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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 11:07 am
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In article ,
wrote:
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>I understand that the original Agfa chemistry was different from even
>the
>original Eastman Color process.Apparently in the early seventies AGFA
>changed their chemistry so that it would be compatible with the
>original Eastman Color chemistry, however not long after this KODAK
>introduced the new highe temperature ECN 2 process making AGFA stock
>once again incompatible with the new process.

Not at all. Basically, Agfa in the 1930s designed a process with very
different chemistry than Kodachrome, which predated the Kodak color
stuff. It was very easy to process (much easier than Ekta, even), and
gave wonderful pastel tones. Agfa developed reversal and negative versions
using the same basic technology in the fifties, and at the same time
Ansco was selling US-made film using similar technology.

Agfa continued selling this process for many years. In the seventies
they also introduced some Kodak-compatible films but for the most part
they kept using the traditional oily-dye-coupler technology from before
the war.

>Scott, do you know if the Russians(back in the seventies) used the
>original Eastman Color chemistry(ECN 1) or did they only ever use the
>incompatible original AGFA process?

The Sovcolor process was basically the result of the Soviets picking up
an Agfa plant during the war and shipping it back to Kiev. It was based
on the pre-war Agfa technology, which Agfa continued using in the west
until the 1980s. That plant continues to operate and continues to
make film using the oily-dye-coupler technology.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:57 pm
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All the Tarkovsky, Konchalovsky etc stuff that I've seen used ORWO stock,which
I believe is the East German derivative of AGFA. I think SIBERIADA (CA 1981)
is the first one I've seen using Eastman chemistry, and I'm not even sure if
my memory serves me well on that one.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:35 am
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G Farris wrote:
>All the Tarkovsky, Konchalovsky etc stuff that I've seen used ORWO stock,which
>I believe is the East German derivative of AGFA. I think SIBERIADA (CA 1981)
>is the first one I've seen using Eastman chemistry, and I'm not even sure if
>my memory serves me well on that one.

Did Orwo even make a color stock? They made some really top notch B&W
stocks (and still do).
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