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Fernando Da Galiza

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 8:59 pm
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Dear silents friends, I would like to know how many restorations has
had Erich Von Stroheim's "QUEEN KELLY" throughout its history.

I have tried to look for those data in my books about silent cinema,
but the subject of the restorations usually does not mention it when those
book authors write about silent movies.
Thanks in advance

Fernando. Galiza.
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admiration and put Spain's ruler to shame".

"The Independent". 8 December 2002.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 8:59 pm
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<< Dear silents friends, I would like to know how many restorations has
had Erich Von Stroheim's "QUEEN KELLY" throughout its history. >>

Gee, I think I can answer this...

There is the 1931 version created by Gloria Swanson with von Stroheim's editor,
Viola Lawrence. It showed in Europe and South America, purportedly.

And then there's mine that I did for Kino, which first screened at the 1985
Berlin Film Fest, as I recall. I even got a shiney little award for it from Sao
Paolo.

Dennis Doros
Milestone Film & Video
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 1:03 pm
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Mile Films wrote in message news:

> << Dear silents friends, I would like to know how many restorations
has
> had Erich Von Stroheim's "QUEEN KELLY" throughout its history. >>
>
> Gee, I think I can answer this...
>
> There is the 1931 version created by Gloria Swanson with von Stroheim's
editor,
> Viola Lawrence. It showed in Europe and South America, purportedly.
>
> And then there's mine that I did for Kino, which first screened at the
1985
> Berlin Film Fest, as I recall. I even got a shiney little award for it
from Sao
> Paolo. [...]

Dennis, could you tell me if the Stroheim's "Queen Kelly" restoration
that you did were completing the lost reels with stills, while a voice in
off was narrating the final development of the film?
I tell you this because I remembered that I saw in the 90's a "Queen
Kelly" restoration in that way and I don't know if was your restoration (
1985 ) or other one...

Thanks in advance again

Fernando. Galiza.
Fernando_da_galiza.RemoveThis@hotmail.com

The Black Tide Of The "Prestige":
"The clean-up of sludge-coated beaches,
and the removal of advancing slicks still
at sea, is overwhelmingly being organised
by village fishing guilds whose heroism and
improvisational genius have earned widespread
admiration and put Spain's ruler to shame".

"The Independent". 8 December 2002.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 5:44 pm
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<< Dennis, could you tell me if the Stroheim's "Queen Kelly" restoration
that you did were completing the lost reels with stills, while a voice in off
was narrating the final development of the film?
I tell you this because I remembered that I saw in the 90's a "Queen
Kelly" restoration in that way and I don't know if was your restoration (1985 )
or other one... >>

Are you sure that wasn't some guy's uncle in the back row of the theatre?

The restoration of the last reels uses stills, the African footage, a couple of
outtakes found at the Eastman House, a re-editing of the original orchestral
soundtrack (also from GEH), and very brief ending titles (three hours of script
in just a few intertitles!), but there was no narration. Then again, Kino sold
the film to distributors in over twenty or so countries, and what they did with
it, is anybody's guess. I do know the French intertitles were the most
"flowerly" titles I've ever read for a von Stroheim film and the English took
my press kit, threw it away, and re-printed five pages from Swanson's
autobiography -- so I had to spend five days in England dissuading the press of
some very misleading stories by Swanson.

Dennis Doros
Milestone Film & Video
email: MileFilms.DeleteThis@aol.com
website: www.milestonefilms.com
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 11:15 am
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milefilms.TakeThisOut@aol.comnojunk wrote in message news:

> << Dennis, could you tell me if the Stroheim's "Queen Kelly" restoration
> that you did were completing the lost reels with stills, while a voice in off
> was narrating the final development of the film?
> I tell you this because I remembered that I saw in the 90's a "Queen
> Kelly" restoration in that way and I don't know if was your restoration (1985 )
> or other one... >>
>
> Are you sure that wasn't some guy's uncle in the back row of the theatre?´[...]

Probably... the people here talk very much even during the silent
film shows...


> The restoration of the last reels uses stills, the African footage, a couple of
> outtakes found at the Eastman House, a re-editing of the original orchestral
> soundtrack (also from GEH), and very brief ending titles (three hours of script
> in just a few intertitles!), but there was no narration. Then again, Kino sold
> the film to distributors in over twenty or so countries, and what they did with
> it, is anybody's guess. I do know the French intertitles were the most
> "flowerly" titles I've ever read for a von Stroheim film and the English took
> my press kit, threw it away, and re-printed five pages from Swanson's
> autobiography -- so I had to spend five days in England dissuading the press of
> some very misleading stories by Swanson. [...]

Thank you ( I'm late, I know... ) for your useful information and
your restoration silent film work, by the way, I really sympathize you
for the hard task of dissuading the press about the Swanson's
fantastic, different and incredible stories...

Saúdos

Fernando. Galiza.
Fernando_da_galiza.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com

The Black Tide Of The "Prestige":
"The clean-up of sludge-coated beaches,
and the removal of advancing slicks still
at sea, is overwhelmingly being organised
by village fishing guilds whose heroism and
improvisational genius have earned widespread
admiration and put Spain's ruler to shame".

"The Independent". 8 December 2002.
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