Tarantino: Idea Thief

Martin Koolhoven <martinkoolhoven.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1193083565.118302.110580@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com:

> On 22 okt, 21:28, Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-
> left.com> wrote:
>> I thought Quentin Tarantino was so smart for giving his characters
>> clever names in "Reservoir Dogs." It turns out that he just stole
>> that angle from "The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3." :(
>
> That's nothing:
> http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=5315508693117048425&q=who+foolin
> g+tarantino&total=11&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

For some reason I can't play that. :(
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On Oct 22, 3:28 pm, Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-
left.com> wrote:
> I thought Quentin Tarantino was so smart for giving his characters clever
> names in "Reservoir Dogs." It turns out that he just stole that angle from
> "The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3." :(

Yes and no.

Ummm...

Let's see. Tarantino is a magpie -- he steals from everyone, and that
one bothers you?

John Harkness
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Agent Smith said the following on 24/10/2007 22:15:
> Martin Koolhoven <martinkoolhoven DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:1193083565.118302.110580@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
>
>> On 22 okt, 21:28, Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-
>> left.com> wrote:
>>> I thought Quentin Tarantino was so smart for giving his characters
>>> clever names in "Reservoir Dogs." It turns out that he just stole
>>> that angle from "The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3." :(
>> That's nothing:
>> http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=5315508693117048425&q=who+foolin
>> g+tarantino&total=11&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
>
> For some reason I can't play that. :(

Putting chevrons around the URL notifies some newsreaders not to line
wrap therefore breaking it.
<http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=5315508693117048425&q=who+fooling+tarantino&total=11&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=0>
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Richard Brooks <richardbrooks.DeleteThis@vickers-supermarine.com> wrote in
news:08WdnZtaQI3ho73anZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com:

> Agent Smith said the following on 24/10/2007 22:15:
>> Martin Koolhoven <martinkoolhoven.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:1193083565.118302.110580@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> On 22 okt, 21:28, Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-
>>> left.com> wrote:
>>>> I thought Quentin Tarantino was so smart for giving his characters
>>>> clever names in "Reservoir Dogs." It turns out that he just stole
>>>> that angle from "The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3." :(
>>> That's nothing:
>>> http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=5315508693117048425
&q=who+fool
>>> in g+tarantino&total=11&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
>>
>> For some reason I can't play that. :(
>
> Putting chevrons around the URL notifies some newsreaders not to line
> wrap therefore breaking it.
> <http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=5315508693117048425
&q=who+fooli
> ng+tarantino&total=11&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=0>

It's not that. Youtube is giving me lots of errors lately, saying that
I can't play many of their videos. It tells me to install the newest
Flash Player, which I did, to no effect. It also says something about
JavaScript, which I made sure is turned on. I've probably configured my
system to refuse certain video files with "active content," but without
a better error message, I don't know which setting to change. I even
tried disabling my firewall nd my AV software, but I can't get those
danged things to play. :(
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On 24 okt, 23:15, Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-
left.com> wrote:
> Martin Koolhoven <martinkoolho....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote innews:1193083565.118302.110580@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On 22 okt, 21:28, Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-
> > left.com> wrote:
> >> I thought Quentin Tarantino was so smart for giving his characters
> >> clever names in "Reservoir Dogs." It turns out that he just stole
> >> that angle from "The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3." :(
>
> > That's nothing:
> >http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=5315508693117048425&q=who+foolin
> > g+tarantino&total=11&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
>
> For some reason I can't play that. :(

And this?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ScR6_l2-Fmk
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On Oct 25, 9:32 am, Harkness <caliba....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Oct 22, 3:28 pm, Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-
>
> left.com> wrote:
> > I thought Quentin Tarantino was so smart for giving his characters clever
> > names in "Reservoir Dogs." It turns out that he just stole that angle from
> > "The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3." :(
>
> Yes and no.
>
> Ummm...
>
> Let's see. Tarantino is a magpie -- he steals from everyone, and that
> one bothers you?

Isn't it the rule that you're supposed to steal from the best?
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On Oct 26, 3:35 pm, "art...@yahoo.com" <art... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Oct 25, 9:32 am, Harkness <caliba... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 22, 3:28 pm, Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-
>
> > left.com> wrote:
> > > I thought Quentin Tarantino was so smart for giving his characters clever
> > > names in "Reservoir Dogs." It turns out that he just stole that angle from
> > > "The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3." :(
>
> > Yes and no.
>
> > Ummm...
>
> > Let's see. Tarantino is a magpie -- he steals from everyone, and that
> > one bothers you?
>
> Isn't it the rule that you're supposed to steal from the best?

It's a lovely principle, but Tarantino has proven time and again that
he has no idea what "the best" is -- he really has no discrimination
whatsoever.

John Harkness
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Martin Koolhoven <martinkoolhoven RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1193401447.170026.18660@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

> On 24 okt, 23:15, Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-
> left.com> wrote:
>> Martin Koolhoven <martinkoolho... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote
>> innews:1193083565.118302.110580@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > On 22 okt, 21:28, Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-
>> > left.com> wrote:
>> >> I thought Quentin Tarantino was so smart for giving his characters
>> >> clever names in "Reservoir Dogs." It turns out that he just stole
>> >> that angle from "The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3." :(
>>
>> > That's nothing:
>> >http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=5315508693117048425
&q=who+fool
>> >in
>> > g+tarantino&total=11&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
>>
>> For some reason I can't play that. :(
>
> And this?
> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ScR6_l2-Fmk

Very enlightening. I never knew he was that blatant. Every day I lose
moe and more respect for the guy. :(
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Tarantino is a master of taking concepts and gimmicks from other
movies and cutting and pasting it together and slapping on a 70's
soundtrack and some hip dialogue and passing it off as an original
work. His first three movies were all quite good, but I didn't care
for Kill Bill.
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Michael O'Connor <mpoconnor7.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in
news:1193457105.126083.111950@o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

> Tarantino is a master of taking concepts and gimmicks from other
> movies and cutting and pasting it together and slapping on a 70's
> soundtrack and some hip dialogue and passing it off as an original
> work. His first three movies were all quite good, but I didn't care
> for Kill Bill.

That's known as derivative work, and it's typically ok. There's no big
problem with formula writing if you apply the formula correctly. As the
Greeks said, there are only seven stories, although I have yet to enumerate
all of them. Star Wars and Raiders of the Lost Ark were both highly
derivative, and they were Lucas's only decent (post-Vietnam) work. Plenty
of other stuff is derivative, and my two favorite genres are slapstick and
film noir, although it's dang near impossible to find good slapstick
anywhere. :(
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:28:49 GMT, Agent Smith <agent-smith.RemoveThis@two-blocks-on-your-left.com> wrote:



>I thought Quentin Tarantino was so smart for giving his characters clever
>names in "Reservoir Dogs." It turns out that he just stole that angle from
>"The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3." :(

It's worse than that. Reservoir dogs had a heist with some crooks showing up
well armed to steal some diamonds. I'm pretty sure Quentin Tarantino didn't invent
the jewel heist. The plagarizing bastard!
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> Comparing Tatantino to Scorsese is like comparing spoiled food to fine
> french cuisine. :) Tarantino is a one-note Johnny.

Yes, but I was making a point that you can be best known as a director
who makes crime and gangster films, but still manage to flesh out your
resume with an eclectic mix of movies. Tarantino would rather re-
create 70's B cinema than take genuine risks.
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:57:51 -0700, Michael O'Connor
<mpoconnor7.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote:

>
>> Comparing Tatantino to Scorsese is like comparing spoiled food to fine
>> french cuisine. :) Tarantino is a one-note Johnny.
>
>Yes, but I was making a point that you can be best known as a director
>who makes crime and gangster films, but still manage to flesh out your
>resume with an eclectic mix of movies. Tarantino would rather re-
>create 70's B cinema than take genuine risks.
>

I think the point was there's only one Scorcese...you really can't
compare someone like Tarantino to him.
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