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Douglas Tourtelot

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 5:49 pm
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A question for anyone who has done dramatic work with Panavision 600 and
tri-level sync either with Ambient Lockits ACL 202 CT or DeneckeSB-T:

I have heard that there are major post production problems if sync is
interrupted (intermittent BNC cable or connector) and that most everyone is
perfectly happy (re-recordists editors et al) with just cross-referenced TC
even on two-camera jobs. Without video sync it might mean that TC would be
out at most, one frame between the two cameras. Is it worth the risk of a
fatal flaw, (green mask frames and sync gaps, VERY BAD!) with tri-level sync
to use it instead of simple cross-ref TC?

Inquirering minds want to know.

D.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:12 am
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Douglas Tourtelot wrote:

>A question for anyone who has done dramatic work with Panavision 600 and
>tri-level sync either with Ambient Lockits ACL 202 CT or DeneckeSB-T:
>
>I have heard that there are major post production problems if sync is
>interrupted (intermittent BNC cable or connector) and that most everyone is
>perfectly happy (re-recordists editors et al) with just cross-referenced TC
>even on two-camera jobs.
>
yea it is a little more work
and the offset chages a few frames everytime the cameras are turned on
and off --- so what
but why not do TC slates as usual and let post do the worrying?? and
spend the extra time of a poorly paid assistant ( probably on his/her
first job on a flat)
why this elegant high tech expensive ( $50 a day per camera) solution to
a time consuming post problem - the solution is either the Dennecke or
Ambient sync boxes that as you say correctly have to have 2 good wires
going to camera and fresh batts every 24 hours.....
of course then there are prouductions that require decent sound righ
away as they start cutting right away...

you got to go with double system though.... some of the F900 have
intermittant sound probs ( small half second drop outs)

and then there is my book - you all know about that.......

> Without video sync it might mean that TC would be
>out at most, one frame between the two cameras. Is it worth the risk of a
>fatal flaw, (green mask frames and sync gaps, VERY BAD!) with tri-level sync
>to use it instead of simple cross-ref TC?
>
>Inquirering minds want to know.
>
>D.
>
>
>
>
>

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Phillip W. Palmer

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 5:35 pm
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As long and you are careful with the wires and change batts everyday, you
shouldn't have a problem. The F900's have this thing when they lose or have
intermittent Gen Lock, they give a mask screen...green...only seen in
playback (bad). We have not had the problem on my show because we take care
of the boxes, and check them each time we re-jam. This issue was approached
right before production and we decided to deal with it if and when it
happens...they have had their hands full with all the other camera problems,
so this has long been forgotten. :) Pixels dying, digital hits, bad remote
servos, and whatever else has kept the heat on the camera department.
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Phillip W. Palmer
Production Sound Recording for Film & Television
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"Douglas Tourtelot" <tourtelot RemoveThis @nospamspeakeasy.net> wrote in message
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> A question for anyone who has done dramatic work with Panavision 600 and
> tri-level sync either with Ambient Lockits ACL 202 CT or DeneckeSB-T:
>
> I have heard that there are major post production problems if sync is
> interrupted (intermittent BNC cable or connector) and that most everyone
is
> perfectly happy (re-recordists editors et al) with just cross-referenced
TC
> even on two-camera jobs. Without video sync it might mean that TC would
be
> out at most, one frame between the two cameras. Is it worth the risk of a
> fatal flaw, (green mask frames and sync gaps, VERY BAD!) with tri-level
sync
> to use it instead of simple cross-ref TC?
>
> Inquirering minds want to know.
>
> D.
>
>
>
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