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Since: Feb 03, 2006 Posts: 170
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:29 pm
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George Shelps wrote:
> Shush wrote:
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> >Who's going to break the news to Neil
> >Young that he's a Marxist?
>
> He probably---like you--indulges in
> class warfare attitudes, i.e. "tax
> cuts for the rich," which derive from
> Marxism.
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Since: Jan 16, 2005 Posts: 349
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:09 pm
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George Shelps wrote:
> David Totheroh wrote:
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> >>>In other words, you have nothing except
> >>>your slimey innuendo and ideological
> >>>interpretation.
>
> >>Reread my old posts, as I said.
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> >I don't have to, they are indelibly etched
> >in my brain, as clear cut examples of
> >slimey innuendo and ideological
> >interpretation without anything more
> >solid or rational to back them up.
>
> It is a fact---not an innuendo--that Chaplin
> pooh-poohed Stalin's Purge Trials
> and the Soviet takeover of Czechoslovakia.
>
> And if you think I am going to go over this
> old ground with you, well,.think again.
No need to "go over this old ground" again, especially since your
citations have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with your claim that Chaplin
"bashed the US."
As I said, you make wild, irresponsible claims with "nothing except
your slimey innuendo and ideological interpretation" to back them up.
It's scummy, but not unexpected, coming from you. If you've got
something real, let's have it. Otherwise, be man enough to admit you
got carried away and resorted to your all too familiar, slimey ways. Or
continue to be the coward most here have come to expect. Your call. >> Stay informed about: Unvarnished Truth to Power - Young Chaplin |
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:42 pm
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:47 pm
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David Totheroh wrote:
>>>In other words, you have nothing except
>>>your slimey innuendo and ideological
>>>interpretation.
>>Reread my old posts, as I said.
>I don't have to, they are indelibly etched
>in my brain, as clear cut examples of
>slimey innuendo and ideological
>interpretation without anything more
>solid or rational to back them up.
It is a fact---not an innuendo--that Chaplin
pooh-poohed Stalin's Purge Trials
and the Soviet takeover of Czechoslovakia.
And if you think I am going to go over this
old ground with you, well,.think again. >> Stay informed about: Unvarnished Truth to Power - Young Chaplin |
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:02 am
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David Totheroh wrote:
>As I said, you make wild, irresponsible
>claims with "nothing except your slimey
>innuendo and ideological interpretation"
It's laughable for someone like you to
accuse anyone else of "ideological
interpretation.'
> to back them up. It's scummy,
Yes, Chaplin's politics were scummy
indeed, with his whitewashing of
Stalinism, Maoism, and Castroism
> but no
>unexpected, coming from you. If you've
>got something real, let's have it.
Oh, please, Davey. As if you're
capable of being ccnvinced by any
evidence!
>Otherwise, be man enough to admit you
>got carried away and resorted to your all
>too familiar, slimey ways.
I'm sorry I ruined your premature impeachment party...LOL
> Or continue to be the coward most here
>have come to expect. Your call.
I am not going to be baited.
Just go see UNITED 93 and view the
consequences of your positions---and
Neil Yoiung's. >> Stay informed about: Unvarnished Truth to Power - Young Chaplin |
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:03 am
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rfcsac627n.TakeThisOut@aol.com (Richard Carnahan)
wrote:
>Shush wrote:
>>>Who's going to break the news to Neil
>>>Young that he's a Marxist?
>>He probably---like you--indulges in
>>class warfare attitudes, i.e. "tax
>>cuts for the rich," which derive from
>>Marxism.
>Do you even know who Neil Young is?
Does he even know what impeachment
is? >> Stay informed about: Unvarnished Truth to Power - Young Chaplin |
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:08 am
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George Shelps wrote:
> David Totheroh wrote:
>
>
> >As I said, you make wild, irresponsible
> >claims with "nothing except your slimey
> >innuendo and ideological interpretation"
>
> It's laughable for someone like you to
> accuse anyone else of "ideological
> interpretation.'
Laughable only to someone desperately trying to ignore the FACT that
HE'S the one who's made yet another wild claim he can't back up.
>
>
> > to back them up. It's scummy,
>
> Yes, Chaplin's politics were scummy
> indeed, with his whitewashing of
> Stalinism, Maoism, and Castroism
Still having problems understanding perfectly clear antecedents, I see.
Is this another attempt to deflect attention away from your reckless
claim?
>
> > but no
> >unexpected, coming from you. If you've
> >got something real, let's have it.
>
> Oh, please, Davey. As if you're
> capable of being ccnvinced by any
> evidence!
How would anyone know? You've yet to confront me with any.
>
> >Otherwise, be man enough to admit you
> >got carried away and resorted to your all
> >too familiar, slimey ways.
>
> I'm sorry I ruined your premature impeachment party...LOL
(Don't flatter yourself. Compared to Bush, you're an amateur in the
ruination department.) Proud to be considered a premature
anti-treasonist. I'm in great company, and more are coming on board
daily. Don't worry, you haven't ruined anything.
>
> > Or continue to be the coward most here
> >have come to expect. Your call.
>
> I am not going to be baited.
>
> Just go see UNITED 93 and view the
> consequences of your positions---and
> Neil Yoiung's.
If you honestly believe Bush's policies and incompetent implementation
have prevented anything (except real solutions) you're more delusional
than even I thought. >> Stay informed about: Unvarnished Truth to Power - Young Chaplin |
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:36 am
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George Shelps wrote:
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> I just got back from watching UNITED
> 93. The tragedy of 9-11 has not been
> repeated thanks to Bush
>
What does George W. Bush have to do with UNITED 93? FAHRENHEIT 9-11
would have been a more appropriate movie to watch as to how Bush
operates under pressure. He chokes. >> Stay informed about: Unvarnished Truth to Power - Young Chaplin |
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:38 am
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George Shelps wrote:
> rfcsac627n DeleteThis @aol.com (Richard Carnahan)
> wrote:
>
> >Shush wrote:
>
> >>>Who's going to break the news to Neil
> >>>Young that he's a Marxist?
>
>
> >>He probably---like you--indulges in
> >>class warfare attitudes, i.e. "tax
> >>cuts for the rich," which derive from
> >>Marxism.
>
>
> >Do you even know who Neil Young is?
>
> Does he even know what impeachment
> is?
I'll take that as a NO. >> Stay informed about: Unvarnished Truth to Power - Young Chaplin |
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:10 am
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George Shelps wrote:
> rfcsac627n.TakeThisOut@aol.com (Richard Carnahan)
> wrote:
>
> >>I just got back from watching UNITED
> >>93. The tragedy of 9-11 has not been
> >>repeated thanks to Bush
>
> > What does George W. Bush have to
> >do with UNITED 93?
>
> No similar terrorists strikes on US soil
> since.
It's been less than five years since 9-11. Eight years passed
between the two World Trade Center attacks. The terrorists are
patient.
>
> (Why don't you see it this weekend, Dickie? You can contribute 10% of
> your ticket price to a United 93 memorial)
You must be proud. You donated a whole dollar to the memorial fund,
while I stayed home and watched Woody Allen's MATCH POINT. (Damn good
movie, BTW.)
>
> > FAHRENHEIT 9-11
> >would have been a more appropriate
> >movie to watch as to how Bush
> >operates>under pressure. He chokes.
>
> No, Saddam is going to choke on the
> hangman's noose.
And W will still be reading THE PET GOAT.
>
> And It's also a tragic reminder of the type of enemy you're complacent
> about---and wouldn't mind seeing triumphant if it would hurt Bush and
> the GOP.
You should try expanding your reading beyond GOP pamphlets and Fox
News reports. The world's a little more complicated than that. >> Stay informed about: Unvarnished Truth to Power - Young Chaplin |
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:06 pm
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David Totheroh wrote:
>>It's laughable for someone like you to
>>accuse anyone else of "ideological
>>nterpretation.'
>Laughable only to someone desperately t
"Desperately?" Hell no. I'm just tired
of reiterating the same case that you
will simply reject.
>rying to ignore the FACT that HE'S the
>one who's made yet another wild claim
>he can't back up.
>to back them up.
I've backed all of them up in the past.
>>Yes, Chaplin's politics were scummy
>>indeed, with his whitewashing of
><Stalinism, Maoism, and Castroism
>Still having problems understanding
>perfectly clear antecedents, I see. Is
>this another attempt to deflect attention
>away from your reckless claim?
It's not going to work, Davey, I've
been posting her for 8 years and this
ground has been extensively covered.
You reject my arguments and I reject
yours.
But if Chaplin had any feeling for this country, he would never have
exiled himself in Switzerland but would have returned to fight for his
rights under the law.
>Proud to be considered a premature
>anti-treasonist.
You really are operating in a political
booby-hatch, Davey. >> Stay informed about: Unvarnished Truth to Power - Young Chaplin |
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:12 pm
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rfcsac627n RemoveThis @aol.com (Richard Carnahan)
wrote:
>>I just got back from watching UNITED
>>93. The tragedy of 9-11 has not been
>>repeated thanks to Bush
> What does George W. Bush have to
>do with UNITED 93?
No similar terrorists strikes on US soil
since.
(Why don't you see it this weekend, Dickie? You can contribute 10% of
your ticket price to a United 93 memorial)
> FAHRENHEIT 9-11
>would have been a more appropriate
>movie to watch as to how Bush
>operates>under pressure. He chokes.
No, Saddam is going to choke on the
hangman's noose.
And It's also a tragic reminder of the type of enemy you're complacent
about---and wouldn't mind seeing triumphant if it would hurt Bush and
the GOP. >> Stay informed about: Unvarnished Truth to Power - Young Chaplin |
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:09 pm
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:26 pm
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George Shelps wrote:
> rfcsac627n DeleteThis @aol.com (Richard Carnahan)
> wrote:
>
>
> >>> What does George W. Bush have
> >>>to do with UNITED 93?
>
> >>No similar terrorists strikes on US soil
> >>since.
>
> > It's been less than five years since
> >9-11. Eight years passed between the
> >two World Trade Center attacks. The
> >terrorists are patient.
>
> And so are you?
>
> But you're forgetting The Cole attack (2000) and Khobar Towers
> (1996)....not
> on US soil, but against US personnel.
If you want to play those games, then how do you explain Bush's failure
to prevent the attacks on citizens in Bali, London and Madrid. Your
willingness to play the hypocritical tool of this corrupt
administration apparently knows no bounds.
>
> >>(Why don't you see it this weekend,
> >>Dickie? You can contribute 10% of your
> >>ticket price to a United 93 memorial)
>
> > You must be proud.
>
> At least I am willing to endure the reopeniing of these painful memories
> rather than cheer-lead for Bush's
> downfall in Iraq.
You poor baby. It must be painful for you to sit in your loge seat,
stuffing your already porcine being with an extra large popcorn
drenched in fake butter dripping down your pasty face.
>
> > You donated a
> >whole dollar to the memorial fund,
> > while I stayed home and watched
> >Woody Allen's MATCH POINT. (Damn
> >good movie, BTW.)
>
> Already saw it. (I still go to the movies)
>
>
> >>> FAHRENHEIT 9-11
> >>>would have been a more appropriate
> movie to watch as to how Bush
> >>>operates>under pressure. He chokes.
>
> >>No, Saddam is going to choke on the
> >>hangman's noose.
>
>
> > And W will still be reading THE PET
> >GOAT.
>
> Yeah, i'm sure President Kerry would
> have jumped up and down and led 5 year olds in a panic. (Doesn't matter
> to you that the teacher praised Bush for his
> self-control)
>
>
>
>
> >>And It's also a tragic reminder of the
> >>type of enemy you're complacent
> >>about---and wouldn't mind seeing
> >>triumphant if it would hurt Bush and the
> >>GOP.
>
> > You should try expanding your reading
> >beyond GOP pamphlets and Fox News
> >reports. The world's a little more
> >complicated than that.
>
> it's truly a disgrace the way you and
> your cohorts dispense with
> national security and the safetty of
> American lives in favor of defeating
> a politician you dislike.
What's disgraceful is for anyone in America to question the patriotism
of someone else just because they have serious policy differences with
those in power. I'm sure you would much rather people march in mindless
lock step, like you, behind der Decider, but last I checked, it was
precisely the freedom NOT to do so that distinguished us from the other
dictatorships we used to oppose, instead of emulate as this
administration is bent on doing what with its advocacy of torture and
spying on its own citizens and obstruction of justice and lying to
'justify' invasion.
You really are reaching levels of scumminess unprecedented even for
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:30 pm
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